Did Bin Laden succeed in his goal of Screwing up United States

[TheCoxwain]

If he did - Republicans have been his biggest allies.


( Donning Flame suit now )

[no_hypocrisy]

1. Let's say the Republicans and Obama travelled parallel roads.

[TheCoxwain]

3. I have an extra flame suit - if you want one.

[MNDemNY]

8. +1

[Nostradammit]

21. Way to get the President's name in there.

[ShortnFiery]

23. Warmongers within both parties ... it's INSANE.

[HubertHeaver]

2. Yes

[WonderGrunion]

4. Far better than he ever could have hoped for.

But the Bush's have been making the Bin Laden's successful for decades, so nothing new there.

[MNDemNY]

5. Surpassed his wildest dreams.

[villager]

6. fanatics help "breed" each other -- each side of extremism ensuring the continuation of the other

n/t

[Romulox]

7. Nope. He just exposed it. nt

[Vidar]

9. Yes.

[Democrats_win]

10. Beyond his wildest dreams. It's as if bush was on al Queda's payroll!

The Republican/CONservative bull message is, "you liburals would go out and hug osama." Of course that is a f*cking lie. The Republican party helped osama bin laden.

[mdmc]

11. Yes He Did!

Bush would never have been able to do so much (damage) without 9-11-01..
He set us back.
We weren't doin so great anyway..

[napi21]

12. Osama actually said he succeeded beyond his expectations

in one of his videos several years ago. Then he was referring to the WTC and that he expected damage but never collapse. I would bet NOW, he's astounded at how this hugh wealthy Country has been nearly destroyed by their fears. I don't think he has to do anything ever again. Just a viedeo once in a while.

[Soylent Brice]

13. this should have been a poll.

and my answer is yes.

the only real goal was to force us into being scared enough to tear ourselves apart.

[BlooInBloo]

14. Terrorism exposed flaws that were already there.

[cdsilv]

17. He got our military out of Saudi Arabia....n/t

[lunatica]

15. No, but George Bush and the PNAC people did

Had we just gone after Bin Laden via international connections we'd be minus two wars and a tanked economy. Bush did Bin Laden's work for him.

[ShortnFiery]

24. Wasn't Osama on their payroll? You know he's dead, don't ya?

:wow:

[lunatica]

32. I don't 'know' he's dead at all

Mostly because I wait till facts are verified. Rumors are overblown big time.

George Bush ruined this country. Not Bin Laden.

[Echo In Light]

16. PNAC

[Nostradammit]

18. You are assuming it was Bin Laden?

I'm guessing it was the house of Bush and the Saudis.

[Prism]

19. Nah

Bin Laden was really just a useful pretext for Republicans to do precisely what they wanted to do anyway. The signals were fairly clear, even before 9/11, that the Bush administration was going to squirrel its way into Iraq one way or another.

The financial corruption and corporatism that created our current economic collapse has very little to do with Al Qaeda.

I think where Bin Laden did the most damage was in the degeneration of America's image before the world. Guantanamo, torture, the security state. Those were the creatures of Cheney's fevered, fearful mind in the wake of 9/11. However, I would argue those impulses were always in the Right's psyche. Again, the excuse to go down that path presented itself in Bin Laden, but I think we were well on our way to it long before anyone heard of Al Qaeda.

[ShortnFiery]

20. No, we THE INVADERS remaining and occupying two Muslim countries is a disaster

of our own making. NO! This does not make us safer back in the good ole USA given that branches of al Quaeda are GLOBAL.

How bout we stop pissing them off by occupying ME sovereign nations?

That's a good start.

[Barack_America]

22. Nah. Bush was already elected.

Manufacturing had already been outsourced.

And so on and so on...

The damage corporate greed has done to our nation puts Bin Laden's efforts to shame.

Bin Laden killed 3,000 people. The insurance companies alone kill 10-100X more than that every year.

[TheKentuckian]

25. No, that's St Ronnie. Bin Laden is just a symptom that was exploited.

[ShortnFiery]

26. Our present Secretary of Defense helped build up al Quaeda in Afghanistan during

the 80s. There's a lot of things Sec. Gates has had his dirty mitts on.

Obama should fire "Iran-Contra" Gates third - right after he tanks "Lies about Tillman" McCrystal and "What suicided Colonel" Petraeus. All three of them are FILTHY ... just VILE. :thumbsdown:

[TheKentuckian]

31. Pretty much agree. Play with too many snakes too long and you'll get bit

I'd slide on Gates for a bit longer to avoid the complete chaos and mitigate the backlash of shitcaning Petraeus and McChrystal. After the mid-term I'd dump Gates and bring in someone that can be trusted like Clark or Sestak if he doesn't make the Senate.

[DFW]

27. Yes and no

He provided the spark, but Sandra Day O'Connor and Anthony Kennedy provided the gasoline on Dec. 12, 2000.
It was there all the time just waiting to be lit.

[Cleita]

28. Yep, with a lot of help from his pals, the BFEE. n/t

[global1]

29. Chicken Or The Egg?........

What came first BushCo's desire to take this country down or Bin Laden?

My feeling is that Bin Laden and 9/11 was a convenient excuse for BushCo to decimate this country.

I will forever blame all that has happened to this country on BushCo & the Repugs.

[damntexdem]

30. Hey, where've you been? He did that long ago -- with help from the Bushistas.

As noted on the Daily Show, Al Qaida hates us for our freedoms, so the Bushistas set out to eliminate that problem by destroying our freedoms. ;-)