The anti war argument we need to make: we are protecting our troops from an incompetent President

[Hamlette]

Bush has done more to aid the terrorists than anything else with his complete incompetence. He has played right into their hands and by not fighting the war in Iraq to win, he gave them a second country to take over and operate out of.

We should refuse to give Bush any more money because he can't fight a war to win and we need to protect OUR kids, OUR soilders from him.

You know, if it was a dem president losing this war that's what the GOP would be saying about us.

[PDittie]

1. Succinct, direct

And makes the emotional point effectively.

Kicked, recommended.

[DesertRat]

2. Absolutely. k&r

[BlooInBloo]

3. Um, the public is ALREADY on our side. Why a new argument/talking point?

[Hamlette]

4. to counter their arugment that WE are harming the troops n/t

[BlooInBloo]

5. Again: The public is ALREADY on our side. They DON'T believe we're harming the troops.

[Hamlette]

6. call me paranoid, I watched the public and the arguments change over Vietnam.

Maybe we can end the war if more Americans want us out. And when we get out, the GOP is going to blame us for any terrorist problem that happens forever, to say nothing of any problem in the middle east.

I want our Dem leaders to make the clear moral argument to counter the admin BS.

[BlooInBloo]

7. Okie - just so we're clear that this is a solution without a problem...

[Hamlette]

9. we will not be "without a problem" until we are out of Iraq.

the majority of Americans wanted out of Vietnam in 1968 and it took us nearly 6 years to get out.

We need to keep turning up the heat.

[BlooInBloo]

10. NICE statement-distortion! (clapclapclap)

[tblue]

8. I want that on a ribbon for my car!!!

[OneBlueSky]

11. works for me . . . succinct, understandable, truthful . . . can't beat that . . . n/t

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[WinkyDink]

12. No, "incompetence" is not the argument. ILLEGALITY and IMMORALITY are. Crimes against HUMANITY.

"not fighting the war in Iraq to win" = what? HOW? Win WHAT? It's NOT a war. It's an ILLEGALInvasion and Occupation.

What methods are you thinking of? The overwhelming use of force, aka "the Powell Doctrine"? Why? To kill more Iraqis?

Does "winning" mean TAKING OVER? On what legal grounds?