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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 02:44 PM
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If you go to see "Capitalism" check your ticket to make sure they rang it up on the right key.

I never go to the movies. But when I went to see Fahrenheit 911 my movie theater rang it up on The Anchor Man instead. I didn't notice for six months when I cleaned my purse.

>>>>>>>

Spider-Man, Anchorman Lead Box Office

By Stephen M. Silverman

Originally posted Monday July 12, 2004 08:00 AM EDT



It was Spider-Man vs. Anchorman at the weekend box office, with the web slinger claiming another victory.

Though its second-weekend business dropped off 48 percent, Spider-Man 2, starring Tobey Maguire, remained in first place and made another $46 million, bringing its total to $257.3 million after only 12 days, according to studio estimates.

Will Ferrell's broadcast-news comedy Anchorman: The Legend of Ron Burgundy also debuted to strong results, though Disney came up a cropper again with the weakly performing King Arthur, starring Clive Owen and Keira Knightley. The film landed in third and took in $15.2 million.

The weekend's other new wide release, the girl-power flick Sleepover, barely made it into the Top 10.

Michael Moore's Bush-whacking Fahrenheit 9/11, however, proved a healthy holdover in its third week, raising its total to $80.1 million and still appearing to be the first documentary that will surpass the $100-million mark.
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,662845,00.html
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I wouldn't be surprised if the theaters are pulling all kinds of crap.

Just saying!
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izquierdista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 02:48 PM
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1. All kinds of crap?
Sinister forces are at work, making minimum wage high school students punch the wrong button, thereby skewing the numbers, thereby enabling Cheney to take over the world. :tinfoilhat:
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LARED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 02:53 PM
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3. Now that you have divulged this secret I have to turn you in
to the Illuminati and the Masons.
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 03:48 PM
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11. you mean Cheney didn't take over the world????
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sylvi Donating Member (169 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 09:58 PM
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21. Mine was marked correctly
but I could swear one of my Milk Duds was shaped exactly like Karl Rove's head.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 02:51 PM
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2. If the Theater owner gave a shit
You wouldn't be able to see it to begin with.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 02:57 PM
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4. Capitalism was given a low IMDB rating..

As a subsidiary company

A screenshot of IMDbPro in June 2008In 1998, Jeff Bezos, founder, owner and CEO of Amazon.com, struck a deal with Col Needham and other principal shareholders to buy IMDb outright and attach it to Amazon as a subsidiary, private company.<3> This gave IMDb the ability to pay the shareholders salaries for their work, while Amazon.com would be able to use the IMDb as an advertising resource for selling DVDs and videotapes. Volunteer contributors were not advised in advance of even the possibility of IMDb—and their contributions along with it—being sold to a private business, which created some initial discord and defection of regulars.

IMDb continued to expand its functionality. In 2002, it added a subscription service known as IMDbPro aimed at entertainment professionals. It provides a variety of services including production and box office details, as well as a company directory. IMDbPro's features are very US and UK centric—thus are of limited use to entertainment markets like Latin America, East Asia and South Asia. Most information contained in the IMDb database proper continues to come from volunteer researchers.

As an additional incentive for users, as of 2003, if users are identified as being one of "the top 100 contributors" in terms of amounts of hard data submitted, they receive complimentary free access to IMDbPro for the following calendar year; for 2006 this was increased to the top 150 contributors, and for 2007 to the top 175. This incentive however is for overall contribution—not contribution on a nation by nation basis. Thus non-US and non-European contributors are effectively excluded from ever achieving complimentary IMDbPro membership via this incentive scheme.<4> In 2008 IMDb launched their first official foreign language version with the German IMDb.de.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Movie_Database
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 03:03 PM
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5. And according to this study small group of users is dominating the ratings
The Dirty Little Secret About the "Wisdom of the Crowds" - There is No Crowd

Recent research by Carnegie Mellon University (CMU) professor Vassilis Kostakos pokes a big hole in the prevailing wisdom that the "wisdom of crowds" is a trustworthy force on today's web. His research focused on studying the voting patterns across several sites featuring user-generated reviews including Amazon, IMDb, and BookCrossing. The findings showed that a small group of users accounted for a large number of ratings. In other words, as many have already begun to suspect, small but powerful groups can easily distort what the "crowd" really thinks, leading online reviews to often end up appearing extremely positive or extremely negative.

Small Groups, Big Impact
To conduct the research, Kostakos worked with a large sample of online ratings. As MIT's Technology Review reports, the researcher and his team studied hundreds of thousands of items and millions of votes across all three sites. In each and every case, they discovered that small numbers of users accounted for the largest number of ratings. For example, on Amazon, only 5% of active Amazon users ever cast votes on more than 10 products but a small handful of users voted on hundreds of items. Said Kostakos, "if you have two or three people voting 500 times, the results may not be representative of the community overall."

This is hardly the first time that the so-called "wisdom of the crowds" has been called into question. The term, which implies that a diverse collection of individuals makes more accurate decisions and predications than individuals or even experts, has been used in the past to describe how everything from Wikipedia to user-generated news sites like Digg.com offer better services than anything created by a smaller group could do.

Of course, we now know that simply isn't true. For one thing, Wikipedia isn't written and edited by the "crowd" at all. In fact, 1% of Wikipedia users are responsible for half of the site's edits. Even Wikipedia's founder, Jimmy Wales, has been quoted as saying that the site is really written by a community, "a dedicated group of a few hundred volunteers."

And as for Digg.com, a site whose algorithm is constantly tweaked in attempts to democratize the votes of its users, it still remains a place where a handful of power users can make or break getting a news item to the site's front page.

Attempts to Address the Issue
It's not surprising then to discover that, when it comes to review sites, it's again small groups that are in control there too. Some sites, including Amazon, attempt to address this discrepancy by allowing users to vote on the helpfulness of reviews - a much easier process than having to write a review yourself. Also, local business finder and recommendations site Yelp implemented ways for business owners to respond to what they feel are inaccurate reviews by way of an owner comments feature. Unfortunately, despite these efforts, the small groups still remain in control of these so-called "popular opinion" features.

According to the article, another professor at CMU, Niki Kittur, suggested that sites create new tools for transparency. For example, there should be an easy way to see a summary of a user's contributions which would quickly reveal any bias. He also suggested removing overly positive and negative reviews.

Earlier this year, we looked at another user-generated review site which attacked this problem from another angle. Lunch.com, a new Yelp competitor, uses something they call their "Similarity Network" which matches you to other site users who share your interests. That way, instead of looking at a list of reviews which could originate from anyone with an agenda or axe to grind, you're focused on reviews from others like you.

Still, there is yet to be a perfect solution to the problem. Perhaps it's time we give up the idea that the "wisdom of the crowds" was ever a driving force behind any socialized, user-generated anything and realize that, just like in life, there will always be active participants as well as the passive passerbys.

http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/the_dirty_little_secret_about_the_wisdom_of_the_crowds.php
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 03:22 PM
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6. The IMDb user rating came from 1,537 voters. How do we get to vote?

1,537 IMDb users have given a weighted average vote of 6.3 / 10

Demographic breakdowns are shown below.

Votes Percentage Rating
639 41.6% 10
118 7.7% 9
103 6.7% 8
55 3.6% 7
31 2.0% 6
20 1.3% 5
14 0.9% 4
15 1.0% 3
34 2.2% 2
508 33.1% 1

Arithmetic mean = 6.3. Median = 8

This page is updated daily.


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See user ratings report for:

Votes Average
Males 1,283 6.2
Females 134 6.8
Aged under 18 38 8.0
Males under 18 36 8.0
Females under 18 2 7.0
Aged 18-29 856 6.4
Males Aged 18-29 787 6.5
Females Aged 18-29 60 5.1
Aged 30-44 354 6.4
Males Aged 30-44 312 6.2
Females Aged 30-44 39 8.0
Aged 45+ 166 5.3
Males Aged 45+ 132 5.0
Females Aged 45+ 31 8.2
Top 1000 voters 28 6.2
US users 1,002 5.7
Non-US users 421 7.1

IMDb users 1,537 6.3
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1232207/ratings
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 03:29 PM
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7. You have to leave a CC number to vote.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 03:46 PM
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10. Men over 45 scored it the lowest. NATCH!
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bbernardini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 03:35 PM
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8. Just came back from seeing it, and my ticket was correct. nt
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 03:46 PM
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9. Thanks. Did u think it deserved a R rating?

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Jkid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 03:51 PM
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12. No
CARA could have make an exception. It was just three fucks, no big deal.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 03:59 PM
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14. What's CARA?
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Jkid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 05:25 PM
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16. Classification and Ratings Administration
CARA is part of the Motion Picture Association of America.
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MindPilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 03:57 PM
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13. An R rating for three fucks?
I heard worse walking out of the parking lot.
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Jkid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 05:26 PM
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17. That's puritanism for you.
CARA does not classify for the general public, but for parents. but in this case they still have a puritanical bias.
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juno jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 07:49 PM
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20. My kid forgot his ID and was not allowed in to see it.
He is 19 with a full beard.

He got a little ticked and called the box office flunkys 'puritanical idiots' before he walked away.

The first thing out of my mouth was, "What the fuck? It was rated 'R'?"

He's going back monday with his ID.
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JonQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 04:23 PM
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15. I wonder, is Mr. Moore upset
that his movie isn't making more money in the free market?
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 05:26 PM
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18. Just got back moments ago...
And because of you I checked my stub... they got it right.
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 05:27 PM
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19. Just got back moments ago...
My stub is right.
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