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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-16-07 11:09 AM
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Bush: "We should not legislate defeat in this vital war"’

http://newsblogs.chicagotribune.com/news_theswamp/2007/04/bush_get_rid_of.html#more

President Bush, surrounded by families of servicemen and women and families of soldiers who have lost their lives at war, made a direct appeal to Congress today to approve a new war-spending bill without the timelines for troop withdrawals that Democratic leaders are seeking.

“We should not legislate defeat in this vital war,’’ said Bush, in a solemn statement calling on Democratic leaders to “drop their unreasonable demands for a preciptious withdrawal.’’

The president was joined by an invited 165 members of military families in the East Room of the White House for an event pushed indoors by stormy weather, scuttling a Rose Garden appearance.

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“Listen, I understand Republicans and Democrats in Washington have differences over the best course in Iraq. That’s healthy, that’s normal,’’ Bush said. “But our troops should not be caught in the middle.’’

“I am willing to discuss any forward that does not hamstring our troops, set an arbitrary timetable withdrawal’’ or include unrelated spending, the president said. “Congress needs to put partisanship on hold, needs to get rid of all the politics right now, and send me an emergency spending bill that I can sign.’’

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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-16-07 11:10 AM
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1. "vital war"?? Why would the cluck say this war was vital? It was
built on lies, and he's already admitted that the 'intelligence' was bullshit.

So why is this war "vital"?
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-16-07 11:20 AM
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8. Why to George Bush this war is vital because it is all about life and survival
....his sorry life, his political survival.

Definitions of vital on the Web:

- critical: urgently needed; absolutely necessary; "a critical element of the plan"; "critical medical supplies"; "vital for a healthy society"; "of vital interest"
- performing an essential function in the living body; "vital organs"; "blood and other vital fluids"; "the loss of vital heat in shock"; "a vital spot"; "life-giving love and praise"
- full of life: full of spirit; "a dynamic full of life woman"; "a vital and charismatic leader"; "this whole lively world"
- manifesting or characteristic of life; "a vital, living organism"; "vital signs"
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-16-07 12:43 PM
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19. vital to his legacy and his f'in corporate buddies.
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-16-07 11:13 AM
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2. In other words, he is willing to discuss anything that agrees with
exactly what he wants. He's not used to dealing with anything but a rubberstamp Congress and it's not going down so well with him, huh.
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-16-07 11:13 AM
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3. he did mention how well Iraq's democracy was collapsing, did he?
now that sadr told Maliki to go pound sand.
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-16-07 11:14 AM
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4. i agree...
and that's why Bush has to go.
He's legislated nothing but fuck-ups from day 1.
It's time for a Commander in Chief with a clue.
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-16-07 11:15 AM
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5. If Bush wants to win the war, "Win the damn war already"- do it now
Invade, conquer, and get the fuck out, just like we did everywhere else. Stop playing and finishing the damn thing. We want it over. Win the war, get it done, or pull them out and shut the fuck up Bush!!!!!
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habitual Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-16-07 11:18 AM
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6. And Away We Go....
This is your baby ****, we didn't legislate defeat, you ordered it and managed it. Nice Job Loser!!!
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-16-07 11:19 AM
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7. ding ding ding. He's had plenty o'time with no checks or balances but he still lost
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-16-07 11:20 AM
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9. I expect to see him
throw himself on the ground, start kicking his feet, waving his fists, and screaming any minute now

I want my WAR! I want my WAR!
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-16-07 12:14 PM
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15. *ss knows all about being a loser. Wonder how he took the other
loses in his life. But of course only poppy would know that. He had to pay off his loses. This one he will not be able to get him out.
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sutz12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-16-07 11:22 AM
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10. Yes...it's much easier to command defeat, King George.
:evilgrin:
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-16-07 11:22 AM
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11. ok,
I am willing to discuss any forward that does not hamstring our troops, set an arbitrary timetable withdrawal’’


So set a specific, selective timetable. Not arbitrary. Carefully determined. RIGHT FUCKING NOW!

Won't hamstring anybody but you, asshole.
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-16-07 11:30 AM
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12. This "war" was lost before you started it, georgie. EVERYONE knew that.
Everyone with brains and integrity TOLD you that invading Iraq
was an absolute no-win clusterfuck.

So you FIRED them, replaced them with toadies, and then LIED
to the world about what they had told you.

Telling even more lies to your koolaid-addled "base" isn't
gonna change that, George. But you'll keep doing it, because
that's really all you know how to di, isn't it?
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-16-07 11:36 AM
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13. The person who needs to "put partisanship on hold"...
...is that fella you see in your mirror, Chim-Chim. Or both of them, depending on how many "pretzels" you've had....
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-16-07 12:09 PM
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14. We are not legislating defeat. We lost this war a long time ago. We
are merely legislating reality.
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EC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-16-07 12:23 PM
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16. so, he legislates death
and the parents of soldiers stand with him? What kind of parents are these?
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ljm2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-16-07 12:24 PM
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17. It's not a war...
...it's an occupation.

We should not ever speak of it as a war, that is yet another case where framing enters the picture.

A war can be won, while an occupation is a different animal.

Of course, Bush wanted to be a "war president", not an "occupation president". Just doesn't have the same ring to it.

Now he wants to unload this steaming pile onto the next poor schmuck who gets into the White House, probably a Democrat, and just in time to get blamed for "defeat" in this "vital war".

I am hoping beyond hope that the American public is getting hip to all of the lies and deceptions that this leadership has put out there. If so, they'll be pariahs for many a long year.

Seriously, here's hoping.
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irislake Donating Member (967 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-16-07 12:40 PM
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18. This is so shamelessly disgusting
that I am amazed that I can still be shocked by the depths of depravity into which this man sinks! If you get what I'm trying to say. Well it makes you feel kinda speechless and groping for words, don't it?
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-16-07 12:47 PM
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20. Desperately trying to frame the issue.
"It's not my fault if the troops get killed. The Defeatocrats wouldn't give me another $100 billion."
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-16-07 12:53 PM
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21. "I understand Republicans and Democrats in Washington have differences
over the best course in Iraq. That’s healthy..."--But, I, the Royal Decider, shall let those children squabble while I do whatever the fuck I want.
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