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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 10:42 PM
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7,500 detention camp beds have been added in 6 states this for year for immigrants.
Over the past year, 7,500 detention beds have been added in Alabama, Arizona, California, Georgia, New Mexico and Texas, and the average daily detainee population has risen to about 28,000 from 18,000 last July, Torres told Congress.


We put many Japanese in internment camps during WWII. How is this different in nature? My country is really doing this, and I have so much trouble with it.

From a Chicago Tribune reporter:

U.S. sued over detention of immigrants


TAYLOR, Texas - In flatlands beside silos and freight-train tracks, an old medium-security prison has been reborn as a detention site for suspected undocumented immigrant families, helping end the nation's controversial "catch-and-release" practice.

..."Already, the family facility in Taylor for non-Mexican immigrants is at the center of a federal lawsuit by detainees and their attorneys, including lawyers from the American Civil Liberties Union, who allege that until recently, parents and their children were treated worse than prison inmates. Federal officials told a judge that many of the problems cited in the complaints have been fixed. Hutto represents a shift in federal policy on how non-Mexican suspected undocumented immigrants are dealt with. As recently as 2005, U.S. authorities released more than 100,000 arrested immigrants after they were scheduled for a court hearing. Because the vast majority never showed up for their hearings - which can occur as long as two months after arrest - the U.S. seeks to detain arrested immigrants until their day in court. Whole families are now detained, and the federal government is trying to keep them intact at places like Hutto.


I have used the word "punitive" a lot here lately, because I see the mindset taking hold in many areas. I saw it especially when I posted about the 5 and 6 year old girls being arrested at school...it is the new method. The worst shock was how many here agreed with it. Punishment taken to the highest level before trying other options.

I use the word again when I read articles like this. This country doesn't deal with things sensibly and rationally anymore, instead we put kids in jail.

Before the government said conditions had been improved, children were forced to wear urine-stained prison garb, confined to cells with open toilets up to 12 hours a day, fed bad food that led to illness and weight loss, deprived of toys in their bunks, and had received only an hour of schooling each weekday, according to court papers. Crying bouts were common. Guards threatened family separation if children continued crying or misbehaved.

"I think it is not fair to run away from torture to come to be tortured. Not physically, but mentally, psychologically and emotionally," said plaintiff Raouitee Pamela Puran in court documents. She and her 4-year-old daughter are from Guyana and seeking asylum.


There is more at the link

I have a thought. Perhaps when ICE has their raids they could handle it from the top down, starting with the business owners who are knowingly doing this.



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rubberducky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 11:00 PM
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1. They will never do anything to the employers.
There is too much money and too much politics involved. These people will continue to be treated like slaves because of money. Money that is made off the backs of these poor souls, whose only sin is wanting a better life for them and thier families. This subject just infuriates me. I find it so hard to believe that people blame these immigrants and never question who employs them. What a damn shame. The plight of these people just tear at my heart strings.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 11:08 PM
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2. I think there is one in Florida, as well, another private one.
But I can't find anything on it right now. People here who never thought about immigrants before are acting terrified of them. The GOP and the media have done their spin job well.

It could be fixed by fining the ones who employ them, punish the businesses. But you are right, they won't.
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rubberducky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 11:18 PM
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4. I moved to CA at 18 and live there for 10 years
If I knew how to write about what I saw, I would. I married into a family with huge farms that , I don`t think, could have been nearly so profitable without immigrant help. It ended up costing me my marriage. I treat my dog better than the migrant workers are treated. Most people do not seem to understand how destitute these people are.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 11:30 PM
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6. Near Immokalee, Florida....
I believe that is the name, there were some a college teachers' group I belonged to visited, and worked with. We made several trips there to work with to see about getting some extra school supplies and clothes and toys.

It just about tore me up. I know some churches and community groups help as well for the ones they know about. But suddenly there is this fear of them.

We don't have to discrimate to fix the problem, and we don't have to jail the victims.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 11:32 PM
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7. BTW, the best way to write about what you saw....
is just to let the words flow from your mind, and then worry about editing later.
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rubberducky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 11:41 PM
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8. Thank you for the advice!
I may just give it a try. God knows the passion is there!!
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 11:16 PM
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3. Congress should end this.
No detention camps for being an illegal immigrant, or for being the child of one.
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rubberducky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 11:24 PM
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5. another kick and a rec` !!
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-16-07 01:11 AM
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9. FDL: Take Action: Immigrants Imprisoned in American Concentration Camps, On Christmas
Excellent post at FireDogLake about this issue.

Most of these facilities are privately run with little oversight of regulation. Shame on all of us for allowing this.

http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/12/21/take-action-immigrants-imprisoned-in-american-concentration-camps-on-christmas/

The whole article is good, but I really must put the update at the end directed toward the right wing wackos attacking the post.

"*Update: Note to wingnuts: a death camp is a species of concentration camp. The difference is a matter of degree, not kind. These prison camps are racial concentration camps for American undesirables, part of your continuing cultural war against racial and religious Others. Germany had "laws" its prisoners had broken, too. It didn't make the administration of the laws just or the implicit intent of the laws any less evil. Glad I could help you with that one. Screech away, little racists, screech away."
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-16-07 02:26 PM
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10. A pretense to build more facilities.
If the Federal Government began a program to build camps without a justification, the first thought that would go through a lot of minds is that the Government was about to round up dissidents and imprison them. By building camps on the pretense of controlling illegal immigration, they can deflect any question as to their final intended use, but quickly convert the inmate population within a very short time period.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-16-07 08:49 PM
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11. Here's a helpful suggestion for the new prisons


Very efficient.
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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-16-07 09:49 PM
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12. k&r as this needs to be known by all.
Our immigration policies are intolerable. Thanks for posting, madfloridian.
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