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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 07:21 PM
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Kucinich Has Only Raised 344k
How long do you think he'll stay in the race?
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COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) -- Democratic presidential hopeful Dennis Kucinich trails his campaign rivals in first-quarter fund raising.
Kucinich reported in filings with the Federal Elections Commission yesterday that he'd raised 344-thousand dollars in January through March. Those numbers are far outpaced by frontrunners Hillary Rodham Clinton, who raised twenty-six million dollars, and Barack Obama, who raised twenty-five million.

http://www.wkyc.com/news/rss_article.aspx?ref=RSS&storyid=65975
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 07:24 PM
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1. Since big Repuke donors will also donate lesser amounts of
money to opposition candidates, I wonder how much money Clinton and Obama have gotten from them?
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 07:26 PM
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3. That's a good question n/t
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 07:41 PM
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7. Many corporate executives play both sides of the aisle.
It ensures that even if your preferred candidate loses, the candidate who did win would know some of his bread was buttered by yours truly.
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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 07:44 PM
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13. yeah, the'y'll do anything to stop kucinich.
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 07:26 PM
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2. Money is not what guarantees election, despite what some would have us believe.
So many politicians simply can't do without those lobbyists tits in their mouths that they won't say otherwise.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-16-07 07:33 AM
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25. No, but a lack of money guarantees losing
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-16-07 10:43 AM
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29. Not necessarily. It's a mass-hallucinated (by design) barrier.
If we believe there is a wall no one can pass through, we make it true in doing so, whether or not that wall exists. There are those who stand to benefit from convincing us that wall exists, as they cannot compete as well without it. The reality is that this, money, is not a real barrier.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-16-07 10:51 AM
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30. But if you try to walk through a wall that you believe not to be there
the factor that determines whether or not you get a broke nose is the existence of the wall, not you belief or disbelief in it.
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-16-07 10:57 AM
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31. Yes, if there really is a wall there. In this case, there isn't. - n/t
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Egalitariat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 07:39 PM
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4. The Kucinich sideshow will last longer than you expect***
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pocoloco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 07:42 PM
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9. Sideshow???
gonna have to explain that.
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Egalitariat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 09:08 PM
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18. His candidacy for the US Presidency is a joke. It's a sideshow
that whips up a few delirius followers but provides only entertainment for the rest of us. He won't finish higher than fourth in any state primary.

A sideshow.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 10:21 PM
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23. So who are you voting for and why?
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GreenArrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-16-07 07:38 AM
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26. sideshow?
As opposed to the Main Attratction? If one is a "joke" the other is a full blown farce. The metaphor is a good one; it's all theatre.
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salib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 07:39 PM
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5. I contributed 1k of that
However, the point is well taken that money does not make the candidate. I think in many ways money disproves the candidate.

Here is San Antonio, there were nearly simultaneous Dennis Kucinich and John Edwards fundraiser "parties." The "suggested" amount to contribute to attend the DK fundraiser was $25. For John Edwards it was $2300.

That is the difference. You can be assured that DK has not been "bought off."
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 07:40 PM
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6. yes
and you can be assured that he won't win, either.
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pocoloco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 07:44 PM
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14. ......and be assured not much will change, either!
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 07:51 PM
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15. So you believe
a President Obama, or Clinton, or Edwards would be no different from the current President?

I disagree, most vehemently.
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salib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 09:05 PM
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17. Will these potential Presidents stand up to the Military Industrial Complex?
Only DK will do that. Count on it.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-16-07 03:57 AM
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24. No he won't
because he won't win.

He's not actually interested in DOING anything - he's interested in being a gadfly.

For a man who's spent his life in politics, he has shockingly little understanding of how to actually accomnplish anything in that field.
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salib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 09:02 PM
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16. I do not get it
So, you have to be bought to win?
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 10:17 PM
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22. No
but you gotta have some money, and some widespread support. Kucinich has very little of either.
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 07:41 PM
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8. I remember in the last election he stayed in for a long time
They wanted him to get out by he refused to give in.

Kucinich was my mayor. I know he's fighter. I just wonder how long he stay in this time.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-16-07 07:51 AM
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27. Yes, and he kept spending campaign matching money in violation of federal law
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 07:43 PM
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10. The total raised is less the point than the earnestness of the wishes of
those who sent donations.

Each cent of that total comes from the blood and bones of people who believe that what Congressman Kucinich says matters, and that it should have as wide an audience as possible. Their contribution is their earnest desire to make his proposals and positions the public policies of our country.

I would call that a very noble gesture on the part of those people, and choose that as my starting point to access Kucinich's candidacy. Eugene Debs said as a rule, the Majority are in the wrong.
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Annces Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 07:43 PM
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11. He is trying to make the Democrats cut war funding
Does that add up to some kind of currency?
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 09:35 PM
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19. He'll last the duration
He did last time, right? It's not as if he has a high burn rate or anything.
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Jcrowley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 09:43 PM
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20. 'Raised' is a misnomer
That language invades the psyche and leads to confusion as to how the money game is played in politics.

These massive "War Chests" that have come into the laps of the political machinery of the likes of Hillary and Obama have nothing to do with the element of these funds being 'raised.' In no way does that term accurately reflect the mechanics of bribery and corporate pay-offs that are at the core of the political game.

One cannot underestimate the media's role in this. All they focus on is the money and the "horse race."

How long will Kucinich be right?
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 09:54 PM
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21. As long as the feds give him matching funds?
nt
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stuartrida Donating Member (326 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-16-07 08:28 AM
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28. Not even 5000 donors.
There are 100,000 DU members, 127,000 people voted for Kucinich in 2006, but not even 5000 people wanted to give Kucinich money for his presidency in the 1st quarter?

There are fewer people interested in him than I thought.
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donkeyotay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-16-07 12:14 PM
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35. I have never regretted a single dollar I gave Kucinich
He's absolutely worth his weight in gold. I never woke up the morning wondering how I had wound up in bed with a two-faced candidate. Those dipshits on teevee can have DK on because they think it's a hoot, but Dennis gets to tell his truth. And in the end, that's all any of us can do.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-16-07 11:29 AM
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32. he'll stay in because of the cause. He knows he won't be nominated, but he wants to make
a statement and perhaps influence the platform.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 06:50 AM
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36. Just like he did last time?
:shrug:
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-16-07 11:35 AM
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33. It doesn't matter to me so long as he hurries and makes some progress on the Katrina investigations.
Edited on Mon Apr-16-07 11:36 AM by w4rma
I haven't heard one peep out of the committee that he is chair of which is responsible for investigating Katrina improprieties.

Lieberman is chair of the sister committee in the Senate so Kucinich is the *only* one who can push this issue.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-16-07 11:48 AM
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34. I pray DK remains IN.
I will drive him to the convention myself if need be.

Someone NEEDS to give VOICE to REAL issues and offer REAL alternatives to the Corporate Circus that our elections have become.

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