WH elected to block emails from the Oregon "Mad As Hell Doctors" as SPAM . . .!!!

[defendandprotect]

Beyond the imaginary "robust public option" of MoveOn.Org, and the divisive, destructive public option of the president, there is a third public option, a very real one. It's HR 676, the Enhanced Medicare For All bill, sponsored by John Conyers and Dennis Kucinich. Unlike the mostly imaginary "robust public option" of MoveOn.Org, it actually exists and ordinary people can read and understand it. Unlike the president's public option, which does not take effect till 2013, a fact still ignored by most of the mainstream media, HR 676 can be put into effect almost immediately. The first Medicare back in 1965-66 took only eleven months to send out the first cards and pay the first medical bills.

The White House of course, is not listening to the public outcry for Medicare For All. For example, a group of Oregon physicians calling themselves the Mad As Hell Doctors put up a web site that included an email-the-president page. After the White House received only about 5,000 emails in the first few days, it elected to block emails coming from the Mad As Hell Doctors as spam. Never mind that tracking polls as late as this June indicate majority support among the public for the simple extension of Medicare benefits to everybody.

http://blackagendareport.com/?q=content/why-public-option-doomed-fail-and-what-can-be-done-about-it


The White House also changed the "contact us" form to something which obviously either will accidentally or purposefully cut down on opinions being sent in . . .

They have a DUAL subject which doesn't always show immediately -
When it does rotate it also changes the "words" at the bottom of the form
which, of course, are unnecessary and at times not easy to read due to the type of print.

At any rate, that's my experience with it --

[earth mom]

1. Hope and change? NOT! nt

[Bodhi BloodWave]

9. take a look at post 3 since it explains the most logical reason why it likely happened n/t

[Bodhi BloodWave]

2. mostly just a question of curiosity thats halfway related to one line in the text

Exactly how do somebody find out that their posts has been marked as 'spam' by those who receive it?

[izzybeans]

3. The only way I know how is if you are actually a spammer

because you track the clicks by people on your email list and your "tracking provider" can tell you what specific email addresses mark you as spam. Campaign Monitor is a pretty popular outfit for tracking the email behaviors of people who use html emails.

I have an online newsletter that we email to subscribers at work and I monitor our "click thrus" that way. There are a lot of email providers and companies that routinely mark certain emails as spam because of their content or other reasons, its automatic and by default.

If you send 5000 emails from one email address, even the President's staff will mark your email as spam, and the Spambot'll do it too.

[Bodhi BloodWave]

8. Thanks for the info, it was quite informational

And considering your last line, it would seem to have a very logical reason why it was marked as spam(automatic or not)

[sentelle]

11. 5000 emails

5000 emails on a To: or a cc: line will get you marked as blatent spam in most spam software as well as the Spam filter in the cloud software out there.

They'd be better to create a listserv.

[defendandprotect]

13. Don't know what a "listserv" is but was wondering if an organization like these doctors . . .

could just trigger the message from the participant's e-mail address????

[Bodhi BloodWave]

19. agreed, 5k emails from one email addy would be blocked as spam

thats why i have no real sympathy that they complain about it, they should be smart enough to know a spam filter would block that many from one addy, unless that was the plan, get them blocked so that they can complain *shrugs*

Good cause, misguided complaining by the fellas who organized this

[defendandprotect]

17. Don't know, but I would have thought they would have expected confirmation, perhaps . . .

of their comments signed by various citizens having arrived at WH????

And, what happens if someone faxes something like this -- is there a "spam" designation

for faxing?

[bvar22]

4. Since "Bi-Partisanship" is now DEAD....

...there are NO More Excuses.

The only reason...
The ONLY reason for NOT supporting HR 676 is to protect the profits on the Health Insurance Industry at the expense of the American People.
Working Class people will DIE so the Health Insurance Industry can maintain profits.

A lot of Democrat's bare asses are now hanging out for the World to see....including Obama's.



"There are forces within the Democratic Party who want us to sound like kinder, gentler Republicans. I want us to compete for that great mass of voters that want a party that will stand up for working Americans, family farmers, and people who haven't felt the benefits of the economic upturn."---Paul Wellstone

[BlooInBloo]

5. Uh... Were they spamming the White House?

[defendandprotect]

15. I'd say no because these are individual e-mail participants .. . but others may say, Yes???

[JDPriestly]

6. It is odd because you try to post and it makes you elaborate the subject.

You weren't asked to state the subject before you actually post. It's odd, but I don't think it is an intentional barrier to sending a message.

[defendandprotect]

14. It used to be three choices in subject ... I always used "other" . . .

but only one subject shows when you first start -

and it's most frequently after you hit "send" that you're sent back to

fill in the new, dual subject which hadn't originally appeared!!!

Crazy --

and when you're sent back . . . the "words" are now changed and of course

most people don't notice that . . . so back again!!

[hileeopnyn8d]

7. Ummm

If it was all coming from the same place, then it was spam. Or at least would be recognized as spam in even the least sophisticated email filters.

[defendandprotect]

18. But is something like this -- or petitions, for instance -- sent in bulk from

various organizations "spam" ...?

Many organizations do this so they must just have missed a step here???

[jberryhill]

10. 5,000 nearly identical emails from one place were detected as spam?

I can't imagine why that would happen.

That's a real head-scratcher of a mystery you have there.

And the White House put a "human test" on their web contact form? You mean, I can't have a program just spew garbage into their form and submit it all day long?

I feel so violated.

[BlooInBloo]

12. A captcha? ohnoes!!!!

:rofl:

Wow - the poutrage some people come up with these days.

[defendandprotect]

16. Well, what happens when ACLU asks us to sign a petition . . . is that "spam" . . ???

So, the "words" are to determine if a human being is actually typing --

or ..... ???

What program might be sent the way you're suggesting???

[Bodhi BloodWave]

20. fun question for ya

If you were to check your normal email and find 5000 emails from the same email address with the same(or almost the same) topic, would you consider that spam or would you consider it email you should read? assuming of course your spam filter hasn't put the vast majority into the spam folder already