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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 12:16 PM
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Oathkeepers admits they're conservatives!

Which means they're full of shit! Patriots MY ASS! Sore losers more like it!


Testimonial Of Eric T Orseske, IVAW, Has Been Deleted
The testimonial of Eric T Orseske, who says he is a proud member of IVAW, has been deleted for the following reasons:

1. Oath Keepers testimonials are meant to be about the individual’s oath and service, not about stumping for some organization. It’s improper to attempt to use the Oath Keepers site for such promotion.

2. IVAW in particular has direct connections with some radical left collectivist individuals and organizations, who would scrap this Republic in a heartbeat if they could, to replace it with their own collectivist vision. Such collectivism is incompatible with Oath Keepers, an organization dedicated to the preservation of this Republic. As Oath Keeper Vietnam Vet Lew Waters said: “IF someone shows and acknowledges a propensity to support the very views we are swearing to stand up against and openly admits to obeying those who would impose the very programs we say we will oppose, are we not leaving our flanks exposed?”

Yes, there are groups and individuals that call themselves “conservative” who have also demonstrated their contempt for our Constitution, but that fact doesn’t absolve IVAW. To the very best of our ability, we won’t allow any such group, from the left or from the right, to use this site or this organization to self promote. This organization is about keeping the oath, not breaking it and scrapping our Republic in favor of some attempt at a collectivist utopia (recent history shows us that such attempts at a collectivist utopia gave us the mass murders of Stalin, Mao, and Pol Pot, which matched or exceeded the crimes of Hitler). We oppose collectivism from any quarter.

3. IVAW also has many of the same credibility problems as its predecessor, VVAW, which had fake Vietnam Vets making accusations against real veterans:

http://chickenhawkexpress.blogspot.com/2008/03/ivaw-member-claims-already-debunked-by.html

http://www.americanthinker.com/2007/10/investigate_the_winter_soldier.html

4. Therefore, that testimonial has been pulled, and there will NEVER AGAIN be a testimonial on this site promoting IVAW. We will also institute a general policy of not posting testimonials that are mere attempts to promote some other group on our site. Testimonials should be about the individual’s oath, period, not some group’s agenda. And while I hate to do it, we will have to more carefully scrutinize submitted testimonials. As Oath Keepers grows and has an increasing positive affect by reminding military and police of their oath, we can expect to not only be attacked by the usual enemies of our Republic, such as SPLC, (which has singled us out precisely because of our mission), which may include trying to sneak in damaging fake “testimonials” but we should also expect increased attempts by organizations and individuals to try and use this site to promote their own pet agenda. We won’t let that happen.

Now, back on mission, reaching, teaching, and inspiring those who took the oath to keep it.

For the Republic,

Stewart
http://oathkeepers.org/oath/2009/09/23/testimonial-of-eric-t-orseske-ivaw-has-been-deleted/
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 12:18 PM
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1. what the fuck is a "oathkeeper"???
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unpossibles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 12:30 PM
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2. no idea. nt
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 12:33 PM
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3. Oathkeepers are right-wing extremists who occupy police and military

positions. Who are "taking oaths" to not follow the orders of liberals.
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 12:37 PM
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4. A Promise Keeper who can't get a wife? eom
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 12:39 PM
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5. I thought maybe some "office holder" in Masonry.
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