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shondradawson (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 10:32 PM Original message |
Rebuttal To False Rape Post: Why Is It That Rape Is Treated As A Matter of Opinion |
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katandmoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 10:42 PM Response to Original message |
1. K&R My sister! |
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juajen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 10:46 PM Response to Original message |
2. Amen! |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 10:49 PM Response to Original message |
3. Actually, Ma'am, Statistics Do Not Bear All This Out Very Well |
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shondradawson (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 11:01 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. Your statistics only establish that though ninety percent of trials ended in conviction... |
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Tangerine LaBamba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 11:11 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. What did you write? |
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abumbyanyothername (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 11:19 PM Response to Reply #8 |
12. One thing that contributes to the situation at Hofstra |
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Tangerine LaBamba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 11:25 PM Response to Reply #12 |
18. Rape is not about sex - |
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abumbyanyothername (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 11:28 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. But this false charge of rape is |
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Tangerine LaBamba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 11:53 PM Response to Reply #20 |
37. We don't know that - |
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shondradawson (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 11:33 PM Response to Reply #8 |
26. You cannot have a conviction without an arrest.... |
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abumbyanyothername (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 11:45 PM Response to Reply #26 |
33. I have a problem straight away with your |
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shondradawson (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 11:55 PM Response to Reply #33 |
39. I do not have a "worldview" in which rapists are cold calculators. .. |
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Tangerine LaBamba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 11:59 PM Response to Reply #26 |
40. That subject line made no sense - |
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shondradawson (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 12:31 AM Response to Reply #40 |
46. I don't believe I have pulled my assertion out of thin air... |
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Tangerine LaBamba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 12:39 AM Response to Reply #46 |
47. No, I've never heard anyone say that |
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shondradawson (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 01:33 AM Response to Reply #47 |
50. I have been a volunteer....book should be plural, in the thousands |
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Tangerine LaBamba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 01:44 AM Response to Reply #50 |
51. Since you read it in 'thousands of books,' or |
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shondradawson (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 03:10 AM Response to Reply #51 |
55. St. John's in one of five Great Books Colleges in this country.... |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 12:18 AM Response to Reply #8 |
43. looking up to TM's post that was replied to, 40% (less than half) reported rapes result in an arrest |
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Tangerine LaBamba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 12:41 AM Response to Reply #43 |
48. It's a very easy charge |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 10:13 PM Response to Reply #48 |
63. And, for some of us, it is a VERY difficult charge to make since it looks bad for us |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 11:35 PM Response to Reply #6 |
27. Actually, Ma'am, Reported Rapes Have Dropped |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 10:51 PM Response to Original message |
4. The generally-accepted definition of "rape" is: |
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shondradawson (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 11:09 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. I agree with you: nevertheless, my post is meant to explore why |
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Geoff R. Casavant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 11:20 PM Response to Reply #7 |
14. Just as a thought - |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 11:52 PM Response to Reply #14 |
36. IMO the problem is that rape is extremely traumatic and accusing the victim of lying... |
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abumbyanyothername (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 12:04 AM Response to Reply #36 |
42. And this is why I state that the problem is the social stigma |
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Gwendolyn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 11:37 PM Response to Reply #7 |
28. They don't. Average people are horrified by rape. |
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TxRider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 11:37 PM Response to Reply #7 |
29. Try this |
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abumbyanyothername (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 11:20 PM Response to Reply #4 |
13. But did she consent to the filming |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 11:23 PM Response to Reply #13 |
17. I have no idea. |
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abumbyanyothername (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 11:30 PM Response to Reply #17 |
21. I think the filming |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 11:39 PM Response to Reply #21 |
30. Do you think that regret after consensual sex |
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abumbyanyothername (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 11:48 PM Response to Reply #30 |
34. Nope. |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 11:51 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. Well you might have an idea that filming sex makes it rape, but |
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abumbyanyothername (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 11:53 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. Are you sure? |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 12:03 AM Response to Reply #38 |
41. This isn't the first gang rape accusation case I heard of, |
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TorchTheWitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 05:20 AM Response to Reply #13 |
57. I'm under the impression she didn't know about the filming |
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no_hypocrisy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 10:53 PM Response to Original message |
5. Cathleen Crowell Webb and Gary Dotson in 1985. |
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abumbyanyothername (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 11:13 PM Response to Original message |
9. I might sympathize with your point |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 11:16 PM Response to Original message |
10. Stupidest post ever. nt |
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question everything (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 11:18 PM Response to Original message |
11. My local paper if full of stories of convictions of rape |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 11:20 PM Response to Original message |
15. The case didn't start up as a case of false rape accusations. |
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subcomhd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 11:23 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. Funny how this is a sex crime in which we know the victims' names but |
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NaturalHigh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 11:28 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. Danmell Ndonye. nt. |
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madeline_con (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 11:30 PM Response to Reply #16 |
23. Her name is Danmell Ndonye n/t |
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Fading Captain (895 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 11:33 PM Response to Reply #15 |
25. Perhaps the problem, with the media, is naming SUSPECTS |
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NaturalHigh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 11:30 PM Response to Original message |
22. Rape is a reprehensible crime, and rapists should be locked away from decent society. |
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Fading Captain (895 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 11:31 PM Response to Original message |
24. Are you serious? |
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shondradawson (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 11:44 PM Response to Reply #24 |
32. please read the the passage again...pasted here with emphasis |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 11:43 PM Response to Original message |
31. In my friends case, her mental issues were used to push a "lying attention-seeker" defense. |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 12:25 AM Response to Original message |
44. Why is it for some people, |
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shondradawson (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 12:45 AM Response to Reply #44 |
49. I don't know why: I know it is in no way implied in my post.... |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 08:39 AM Response to Reply #44 |
58. Because too often the rapist gets off by calling the victim a lying, attention-seeking slut. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 12:25 AM Response to Original message |
45. I understand where you are coming from, what you are meaning |
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Hugabear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 01:44 AM Response to Original message |
52. Our criminal justice system is built upon the premise of innocent until proven guilty |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 08:42 AM Response to Reply #52 |
59. But that is no excuse to let defense attorneys secondarily traumatize rape victims... |
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Liquorice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 01:54 AM Response to Original message |
53. At the root of rape is sexism. Until society changes its attitude and strongly condemns |
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Hugabear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 02:06 AM Response to Reply #53 |
54. How would you change it? |
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abumbyanyothername (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 11:15 AM Response to Reply #54 |
60. One suggestion is to eliminate the crime altogether and |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 11:17 AM Response to Reply #60 |
61. A very bad suggestion, imo. |
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Cid_B (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 04:45 AM Response to Original message |
56. "why is the man never asked to prove he didn't rape the woman?" |
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BoneDaddy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 12:58 PM Response to Original message |
62. To put this as succinctly as possible |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 10:22 PM Response to Original message |
64. The law |
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ray of light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 10:23 PM Response to Original message |
65. Just an FYI...a situation I know of...a retarded girl was raped by boys in school |
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