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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 05:59 PM Original message |
I see 2 BIG "Unintended Consequences" with this Health Insurance Reform: |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 06:10 PM Response to Original message |
1. Yep. #2 is the big one. |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 06:16 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. There's a reason advertising targets a younger audience... |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 06:47 PM Response to Reply #4 |
12. Bingo. |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 06:51 PM Response to Reply #4 |
16. They are going LOVE making out that check every month... |
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joeycola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 06:34 PM Response to Reply #1 |
7. low wage workers do not have the money for insurance. simple as that. |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 06:52 PM Response to Reply #7 |
18. Under reform, they won't need money for insurance. |
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Ikonoklast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 07:14 PM Response to Reply #7 |
25. Then they will qualify for the public option. |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 06:47 PM Response to Reply #1 |
11. All of those things are much cheaper than health insurance. |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 06:48 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. Yep. |
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AdHocSolver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 01:30 AM Response to Reply #11 |
33. That flat screen TV cost about $100 to manufacture in China. Buyers are overpaying about $500. |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 05:00 AM Response to Reply #33 |
34. None of what you said contradicts my example. |
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napi21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 06:10 PM Response to Original message |
2. Ins. premiums are based partly on age NOW. For businesses, |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 06:31 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. This will make the increased cost much more immediate.... |
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Ms. Toad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 01:01 AM Response to Reply #6 |
32. The difference for small employers is already far more |
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gravity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 06:14 PM Response to Original message |
3. How do you think they pay for insurance now? |
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theophilus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 06:25 PM Response to Original message |
5. Well, I predictiate just the opposite. Premiums go down. More money to spend. n/t |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 06:36 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. Remove lifetime and yearly caps, prevent preexisting condition denials... |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 06:52 PM Response to Reply #8 |
17. Mandates are to (many) Democrats what tort reform is to Republicans. |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 06:54 PM Response to Reply #8 |
19. Its not really Health Insurance. |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 06:40 PM Response to Original message |
9. 3.) Young people will abandon the Democratic party. |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 06:42 PM Response to Original message |
10. You seem to be assuming that everyone will be purchasing individual insurance. |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 06:55 PM Response to Reply #10 |
20. I think that multipliers will be used within companies.... |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 07:43 PM Response to Reply #20 |
28. Perhaps over time. And yes everything Baucus does sucks. |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 06:58 PM Response to Reply #10 |
21. There ARE DUers from Mass. who disagree with you. |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 07:41 PM Response to Reply #21 |
27. I live in NH and work in Mass and know lots of people |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 09:47 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. So your point is meaningless. |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 11:01 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. I'll try again. |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-13-09 12:30 PM Response to Reply #27 |
35. Mass uninsured rate has gone UP! |
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Kat45 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 12:49 AM Response to Reply #21 |
31. I'm in MA and I'd be screwed if we didn't have it |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 06:49 PM Response to Original message |
14. That will not be the |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 06:49 PM Response to Original message |
15. The subsidies are structured in such a way that #2 nonexistent. |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 07:05 PM Response to Reply #15 |
22. For about the zillionth time, lumberjack_jeff |
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gravity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 07:09 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. That is why Obama is proposing new regulations for insurance |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 07:38 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. The tough regulations need to be put into place BEFORE there is a mandate |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-13-09 12:32 PM Response to Reply #22 |
36. "The majority of people who go bankrupt from medical bills HAD insurance." YES YES YES |
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msongs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 07:11 PM Response to Original message |
24. u mean beyond that Death Scare companies are gonna EFF up everyone they can for profit? nt |
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