FRIEDMAN sez we internets webbers are "a SEWER". BROKAW agrees.

[UTUSN]

O.K., apparently these pillars of some far away establishment thingy were on MTP with David "KKKarl Dancer" GREGORY. I wouldn't know, since G.E. RUSSERT had been dead to me long before his actual demise, and I have never seen David the KKKarl-Dancer since he took over.

But there was a clip of BROKAW and FRIEDMAN, being oh-so-Rico-Suaves about the state of their media kingdom. They agreed that the internets was a severe threat to their realm, and after they chuckled, BROKAW said the internets have no editorial TRUTH FILTER, and FRIEDMAN polished it all off by saying that the internets are A SEWER ----chuckle, chuckle----and even more hilarious, that "modems should come with a Surgeon General's warning," and BROKAW said that the "health of the free society depends on information and only" the establishment media can provide it all.



Methinks this little foot-stomping has something to do with all of us UNWASHED daring to proletarianally (I invent non-words and misspell because I have no editor) TYPING up our petty little OPINIONS of the CRAVENNESS of the ilk of FRIEDMAN. Like how he drumbeatted for the Iraq Attack and made ca$h off of every opinion he was wrong about and reversed himself on.


And how we don't forget how BROKAW "covered" Election Night 2000, sitting next to G.E.RUSSERT who had a Shrub button under his lapel, which was ETHICALLY FINE with BROKAW, and how BROKAW acted so bored and blase and jaded until it all blew up in their faces and they had to go to bed all crapped-on and all.


On Edit: Somebody asked for a link and the transcript is UP and here'tis:

**********QUOTE********
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32703935/ns/meet_the_press/

Page 4: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32703935/ns/meet_the_press/page/4/

MR. FRIEDMAN: David, when everyone has a cell phone, everyone's a photographer. When everyone has access to YouTube, everyone's a filmmaker. And when everyone's a blogger, everyone's in newspaper. When everyone's a photographer, a newspaper and a filmmaker, everyone else is a public figure. Tell your kids, OK, tell your kids, OK, be careful. Every move they make is now a digital footprint. You are on "Candid Camera." ... ....

MR. BROKAW: Well, I've--one of the things I've been saying to audiences is this question comes up a lot, and a lot of people will repeat back to me and take it as face value something that they read on the Internet. And my line to them is you have to vet information. You have to test it the same way you do when you buy an automobile or when you go and buy a new flat-screen television. You read the Consumer Reports, you have an idea of what it's worth and what the lasting value of it is. You have to do the same thing with information because there is so much disinformation out there that it's frightening, frankly, in a free society that depends on information to make informed decisions. And this is across the board, by the way. It's not just one side of the political spectrum or the other. It is across the board, David, and it's something that we all have to address and it requires society and political and cultural leaders to stand up and say, "this is crazy." We just can't function that way.

MR. FRIEDMAN: You know, David, I just want to say one thing to pick up on Tom's point, which is the Internet is an open sewer of untreated, unfiltered information, left, right, center, up, down, and requires that kind of filtering by anyone. And I always felt, you know, when modems first came out, when that was how we got connected to the Internet, that every modem sold in America should actually come with a warning from the surgeon general that would have said, "judgment not included," OK? That you have to upload the old-fashioned way. Church, synagogue, temple, mosque, teachers, schools, you know. And too often now people say, and we've all heard it, "But I read it on the Internet," as if that solves the bar bet, you know? And I'm afraid not. ....

********UNQUOTE********

[kentuck]

1. I have read Friedman on the web??

What sewer does he live in?

[tularetom]

2. Brokaw is a piece of shit - Russert is a dead piece of shit

And you should never trust anybody named Friedman - Milton, Tom or Kinky.

[Just-plain-Kathy]

15. "Brokaw is a piece of shit"...You took the words right out my mouth.

I thought the same thing when I first read the title of the op.

I remember Brokaw on a the Tonight Show saying something about how the public "will never forgive" the news media for the 2000 elections. Brokaw knows FOX stole the election for Junior.

[wryter2000]

3. I think it has to do with the fact that they feel threatened. n/t

n/t

[Enrique]

4. Friedman doesn't like that his name is literally a joke

thanks to the Internet.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friedman_(unit)

"The next six months"

Critics of Friedman's position on the Iraq War have noted his recurrent assertion that "the next six months" will prove critical in determining the outcome of the conflict. A study by Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting first pointed out this phenomenon in May 2006, citing 14 examples of Friedman's declaring the next "few months" or "six months" as a decisive or critical period, dating from in November 2003, describing it as "a long series of similar do-or-die dates that never seem to get any closer."<38>

In a live television interview aired June 11, 2006, on CNN, Howard Kurtz asked Friedman himself about the concept: "Now, I want to understand how a columnist's mind works when you take positions, because you were chided recently for writing several times in different occasions 'the next six months are crucial in Iraq.'" Friedman responded, "The fact is that the outcome there is unclear, and I reflected that in my column. And I will continue to reflect."<39>

The blogger Atrios coined the neologism "Friedman Unit" to refer to this unit of time in relation to Iraq, noting its use as a supposedly critical window of opportunity.<40> <41>

[Swamp Rat]

13. "Friedman Unit" ....LOLOLOL!!!

:rofl:

[Posteritatis]

5. Yes, but the ninja turtles are from the sewer, so it can't be all bad! (nt)

[Ikonoklast]

6. Teh Technology!

I iz Scared!!!1! Iz too democratic!1!!!!11!

These people, these creations of the media, these whores, these bought-and-paid-for pundits are seeing themselves being increasingly marginalized.

There are voices on the web; intelligent, studied, thoughtful, reasoned, and they cannot be bought off or swayed by the promise of wealth in exchange for their silence or purchased opinions.

I revel in the ability to poke them and their perceived lofty status directly in the eye.

Knowledge is Power.

And we are entering the Age of Knowledge.

[Indenturedebtor]

8. Yep. Kill your TV. We did... we get all our movies and shows online now

No more TV "noos". If it's not worth reading, it's not worth listening to.

[Old and In the Way]

7. What they really hate is the instanteneous feedback loop that the Internet provides.

Back in the old days, they could comment with impunity, insulated from the public reaction...at worst, a bunch of LTTE's that effected nothing. Today, if they screw up or lie, they know about it 15 minutes after their bloviatings reach the 'net. That's really what pisses them off. The internet has severely reduced their influence and ability to drive the public conventional wisdom.

[UTUSN]

10. Yip, I remember a George "Stolen Debate Books" WILL commenting surprisedly

at how we internets apparently watched ALL the pundit shows, not just one, and how we ripped them all apart, as opposed to swallowing one of them whole. He actually used to think that some of us tuned in ONLY to him or some such. AND believed him!1

[SoCalDem]

9. They are pissed because WE actually do RESEARCH

and out them on all their crap.

Back-in-the-day, one would have had to physically GO to a library, and dig through piles of old papers or use their "machinery" to look up stuff, pay to have it xeroxed, and then what?..who would ever see the fruits of that labor? You might send it via snail mail, to "someone", only to have it buried on their desk FOREVER,,IF they even bothered to look at it.

The "media" used to be the ONLY ones who had access to all the clips & data, that we ALL have access to now..

They are pissed that they can no longer "lead" the parade:)

[Swamp Rat]

Yep

:D

[arcadian]

22. Brilliant Swampy!

You need a pulitzer! :rofl:

[Swamp Rat]

23. I'd prefer a Howitzer

:D :hi:

[arcadian]

25. Please tell me you were wearing Groucho Marx glasses with moustache and cigar as you wrote that.

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

[yellowwood]

11. A Record of What They Say--a Threat

From Glenn Greenwald:
In column after column prior to the war, Friedman argued that invading Iraq and overthrowing Saddam was a noble, moral, and wise course of action. To Friedman, that was something we absolutely ought to do, and as a result, he repeatedly used his column to justify the invasion and railed against anti-war arguments voiced by those whom he derisively called "knee-jerk liberals and pacifists"
http://glenngreenwald.blogspot.com/2006/12/tom-friedman-disease-consumes.html

I will never forget Tom Friedman's cheerleading for the Iraq invasion.

Why should we ever read or listen to anything he says?

[damntexdem]

12. Yeah, whereas the MSM has a very-effective truth filter: very little gets in.

Rather than deal with the sewer of reality, they prefer the ethereal heights of spin.

[AzDar]

14. AzDar sez : Brokaw, Friedman, and others of their MSM-whore ilk

are feeling the winds of total irrelevance mussing their toupees.

As for the 'sewer', it's kinda nice down here; I'd invite them down, but...you know...

:hi:

[arcadian]

16. Can I get a transcript of this somewhere?

I want to spread this around.

[UTUSN]

17. The transcript is UP and here 'tis!1 (plus into the O.P.) :

**********QUOTE********
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32703935/ns/meet_the_press/

Page 4: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32703935/ns/meet_the_press/page/4/

MR. FRIEDMAN: David, when everyone has a cell phone, everyone's a photographer. When everyone has access to YouTube, everyone's a filmmaker. And when everyone's a blogger, everyone's in newspaper. When everyone's a photographer, a newspaper and a filmmaker, everyone else is a public figure. Tell your kids, OK, tell your kids, OK, be careful. Every move they make is now a digital footprint. You are on "Candid Camera." ... ....

MR. BROKAW: Well, I've--one of the things I've been saying to audiences is this question comes up a lot, and a lot of people will repeat back to me and take it as face value something that they read on the Internet. And my line to them is you have to vet information. You have to test it the same way you do when you buy an automobile or when you go and buy a new flat-screen television. You read the Consumer Reports, you have an idea of what it's worth and what the lasting value of it is. You have to do the same thing with information because there is so much disinformation out there that it's frightening, frankly, in a free society that depends on information to make informed decisions. And this is across the board, by the way. It's not just one side of the political spectrum or the other. It is across the board, David, and it's something that we all have to address and it requires society and political and cultural leaders to stand up and say, "this is crazy." We just can't function that way.

MR. FRIEDMAN: You know, David, I just want to say one thing to pick up on Tom's point, which is the Internet is an open sewer of untreated, unfiltered information, left, right, center, up, down, and requires that kind of filtering by anyone. And I always felt, you know, when modems first came out, when that was how we got connected to the Internet, that every modem sold in America should actually come with a warning from the surgeon general that would have said, "judgment not included," OK? That you have to upload the old-fashioned way. Church, synagogue, temple, mosque, teachers, schools, you know. And too often now people say, and we've all heard it, "But I read it on the Internet," as if that solves the bar bet, you know? And I'm afraid not. ....

********UNQUOTE********

[MinM]

18. Atrios: the typical Tom Friedman column...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x369429

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[marmar]

19. They just hate that they are no longer the gatekeepers......

..... They don't have total control of the information flow. ...... The hubris of these bastards is unreal.

[Lex]

21. Agree.

Twist in the wind, mf'ers.

[redqueen]

20. Fuck your "truth filter" you lying sack of shit.

You and motherfuckers like you helped them LIE US INTO A WAR!

:nuke:

[emulatorloo]

24. Have you ever read the wingnut sites? World Net Daily, Townhall.com, FreeRepublic, etc etc?

I am a little frustrated with how Brokaw and Friedman put it, but I am also frustrated when I hear the internet is going to "save us" -- there is a lot of ridiculous crap on those sites passing for fact. For every decent well researched blog post, there are ten wingnuts distorting and making up shit and reporting it as fact.