Huff Post: Enough Is Enough - Let's Indict Karl Rove NOW

[Hissyspit]

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Russell Shaw
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The Blog 04.13.2007
Enough Is Enough- Let's Indict Karl Rove - NOW

OK, first we have Karl Rove being complicit in the effort to out CIA agent Valerie Plame. Kind of ironic that in a month where Iran now claims 3,000 uranium-compliant centerfuges, what Karl and others did to unmask the identity of a nuclear proliferation expert is especially onerous. Some might even say treasonous.

And now we learn that Mr. Rove has deleted thousands of emails over the last four years.

Try that in the private sector, and you'll run afoul of Sarbanes-Oxley. There are former cufflinked CEOs now wearing prison garb for doing something similar. It's one thing deleting emails when you are squeezed for server space. But we're talking about five million emails in total- many from Rove- that the White House can't find.

And what might be on these emails? Admonitions to fire federal prosectors who aren't "with the program?" For sure, and gosh knows what else.

As a technologist, I can tell you that emails can be deleted but are seldom exterminated. That's because emails go through several hops and are often archived at one or more of these stages. Karl Rove's dirty-tricks-laden emails probably still exist somewhere.

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[tiptoe]

1. There should be no excuse for Special Counsel Fitzgerald not recovering that data, then...

...if he hasn't already done so.

He has UNLIMITED RESOURCES and NEEDS NOT INFORM ANYONE in * DOJ about HIS INVESTIGATIONS and WARRANTS...nor even inform a Grand Jury of Special Counsel "informations" i.e. alternatives to indictments by a GJ. Even Sealed vs Sealed could be an "information" (technically not an indictment) by Patrick Fitzgerald against targets about which a Grand Jury could be unaware.

He might even, I'm guessing, have been able to "sting"..."trap"..."catch in the act" any WH aides using the private servers, illegally skirting the WH protocol system, if he was aware of the existence and use of such alternative systems. The Special Counsel has unlimited resources at his disposal, with "plenary" authority passed to him by James Comey to pursue investigation into *any* federal violations he might have come across while investigating the Plame matter.

http://tinyurl.com/QKK23

[Gabi Hayes]

3. or INDICTING him for illegally disposing of Presidential Records.

I'm really starting to wonder WTF is going on with Fitz.

I know there's a lot that isn't public knowldedge, but I can just imagine Kenn Starr in this situation. you KNOW he'd have indicted a boatload of people, regardless of justification, merely in order to put the squeeze on those lower on the rungs, JUST to get them to unload on the bosses.

why didn't he employ that tactic with the likes of Rove and various other underlings, like, say Armitage?

[Pachamama]

8. Maybe Fitzgerald was "targeted" in some way?

I've wondered that...maybe we may find out that they had something on him (White House/Karl Rove on Patrick Fitzgerald) and that is why Fitz didn't move forward? What's in the sealed document???

[Balbus]

2. He already was indicted.

24 business hours ago. :hide:

[tiptoe]

5. pssst!

"Sealed vs Sealed" originated within the 24 business-hours window...and is *still* sealed.

Moreover, although Rove purportedly hasn't been "indicted" (i.e., by a Grand Jury), Sealed vs Sealed technically could be an "information" by the Special Counsel himself vs Rove et al. A Grand Jury would be unaware of the contents of an "information" by the Special Counsel, and Rove's lawyer *technically* would be correct in representing his client as "unindicted."

Luskin never revealed publicly the contents of the letter he received from Fitzgerald.

http://tinyurl.com/QKK23

[Balbus]

6. Don't you have a WTC tower 7 to worry about?

on edit: OMG I can't believe you actually put 24 business-hours in quotes, like it's some official and legal time increment!! That's pathetic.

[tiptoe]

7. whatever is appropriate

and you're welcome
:hide:

http://tinyurl.com/QKK23

[symbolman]

9. EVERYONE said that Rove was Unindicted

There wasn't a SINGLE NEWS SOURCE that said that Rove had EVER been indicted, except for Leopold and his Mass Believers.

Truthout even LOST their credibility as a NEW SOURCE over that series of Bullshit stories, Google dropped them, as did Yahoo.

They've have YET to apologise, and until they do, many will keep SLAMMING them, and Rightly SO.

I bet a $1000 donation to the DU that NONE of that was true, and had No Takers. There was NO Letter, No Indictment, PERIOD.

The "Sealed v Sealed" could just as easily, and more likely IS, about SOME OTHER CASE.

Leopold LIED, get over it, for god's sakes.

Sheesh.

[tiptoe]

10. "...and more likely IS, about SOME OTHER CASE."

A former federal prosecutor might disagree (emphasis added):

... When told that the federal indictment was returned by the same grand jury hearing evidence in the CIA leak case, [Michael] Clark [a former federal prosecutor...] said, "There is a good chance there is some linkage there. There aren't any other high profile cases coming out of that court that we know of, so chances are that the indictment involves someone important, and that keeping the identity of the case under seal has to do with the fact that the investigation is ongoing. It's entirely likely that if the person in the indictment is cooperating, the indictment could be dismissed down the road. It's not unheard of."...

Indictment Still Sealed, Fitzgerald Still Busy
By Jason Leopold and Marc Ash Monday 21 August 2006

Don't forget to add Marc Ash whenever you assert "Leopold LIED." Everything published under Leopold's byline re the story passed through Truthout's Executive Director first.

And please refrain from using "Get Over it" as a directive to "move on...nothing to see here." It's too RW-talking-point-ish suppressive, similar to "Trust me."

[symbolman]

11. Get over it is wholly appropriate when discussing

or using Leopold OR Marc Ash, they have NO credibility, I notice you didn't mention that GOOGLE and YAHOO had DUMPED them as a "News" Source, a FACT.

I don't, and many Won't Believe anything said by those people, and for good reason, quoting them and linking them does not make them credible.

Until they apologise and retract they will continue to be laughing stocks.

Sorry you believe it, feel free.. as for anything being 'freeperish', Leopold could not have done MORE DAMAGE if he IS or Was a 'Freeper', sending bullshit out to 400 blogs to post that is SIMPLY CONJECTURE, and Poor, negligent 'journalism' made all those sites appear suspect as well.

WE have an obligation to tell the truth as god knows the right and media never will, so people like those folks need to be WEEDED OUT.

Luckily they've culled themselves for us.

[jimshoes]

4. Before they accidentally

lose or shred or trample on what's left of our Federal laws, Constitution and Bill Of Rights, please someone, ARREST these criminals already before it's too late.:grr: