Do repubs really get called racist if they disagree?

[holiday]

I have seen this at SO many message boards I go to.

They claim that if they disagree with Obama they get called a racist and how unfair it is.

I've read this so many times, and they act like it's just common knowledge. That anytime they open up their mouth against Obama's policies someone yells racist to them.

The thing is I have never heard this!

This is what someone said at one message board:

"It's so annoying how the kool-aid drinking (very leftists) response to anyone who disagrees with something the current administration is doing by calling them a racist. I see it in the news comments all the time. In fact the running joke is how long will it take for someone to say it."

I replied back with the fact that during the Bush years if someone dare disagree with president Bush we were called unamerican, traitors and told to leave the country.

I think racism is a very serious charge and I would never call someone that unless I knew for sure. I do believe there are people out there who are not racist and disagree with Obama. I believe some people disagree with Obama not because of racism but because of xenophobia (secret muslim bs) I also do believe that some of the birthers/deathers etc movement was started by racist/xenophobic people and that maybe some unracist people are buying into hook line and sinker.

But I swear I have never heard of this, and my opinion is the republicans are just wanting to claim victim status. What do you think?

[gratuitous]

1. The short answer to folks who say that

If you don't want to be called a racist, stop saying racist things. I note that they claim their victimhood mantle very quickly, but are very slow to repeat what they actually said that got them called a racist.

[holiday]

4. well here is the rest of her response

"eg. Someone will say "I think the Healthcare proposal is going to up the deficit to much" or "Why are they bailing out (put what every you want here) ???". The auto response is "oh your just a racist". "

[gratuitous]

13. And THAT derails them?

Not much to say about that. If you can't state or make your case without (figuratively) running down the hall crying to slam your bedroom door because someone said a mean thing to you (Online! What are the odds?!), then maybe it's time to spend one's internet hours at the Hello Kitty website making cute cats.

[me b zola]

7. What you said

Yesterday I watched a video that was posted in our forum of just that kind of guy. He whined that Dem's were going to call him racist for what he was about to say, then he goes on to say racist stuff. I felt obligated to point this out on youtube. :)

[FLDCVADem]

2. There's a post here right now

The OP accused a guy of being racist because he said he didn't trust President Obama.

[truebrit71]

22. ..because the guy said he didn't know where Obama was born...

..in that case, a CLEAR indicator of racism...

[FLDCVADem]

35. Sorry, but you are not telling the truth

He was accused of being a racist BEFORE he said anything about not knowing where President Obama was from. He said he didn't trust the President, and he was accused of being a racist.


So yes, people are accused of being racists simply for not agreeing with or liking President Obama.

[BOSSHOG]

3. And they don't listen to right wing radio

and they think for themselves and they've never heard of glen beck.

[BuyingThyme]

5. Yes, it's very true. I get called racist for disagreeing with Obama,

and I'm far more liberal than he.

[endarkenment]

6. It ain't 'disagreement' it is overt bullshitty racist nonsense.

brifers
he's a commie
he's a fascist
he's a secret muslim
he's a terrorist
he's talking to OUR CHILDREN

The message here is not subtle at all. 'he's not one of us'.

[pipi_k]

14. I don't see anything at all racist in

being a "birther". Didn't some on this side raise the same stink about John McCain and Panama? So what if it was in response to the Obama "birther" nonsense...it was a stink all the same.

or in being a "commie". Racist? Calling someone a "commie" means that person is a "racist"?

or in being a "fascist". Same thing. Calling someone a "fascist" doesn't mean the person doing it is a "racist"

secret muslim...see above. Lots of white...or very light brown...people are muslims. Calling someone a muslim doesn't mean that person is a racist. It may only mean that person hates all religions other than his/her own.

terrorist. Yeah, calling someone a "terrorist" actually means that person is a "racist" because, you know there were never any WHITE terrorists...uh, besides the OK City bomber...or the Unabomber...or the Boston Strangler...or a hundred other WHITE people who terrorized others... :eyes:

Oh, and "he's talking to our children"...yep...classic, unmistakable sign of a racist. Forget the idea that there might very well be some BLACK Republicans out there who didn't want their kids to hear Obama's speech...they must be racists too...


sigh...

if we look for "racism" hard enough, we're going to find it sooner or later...even if it doesn't really exist...

[BuyingThyme]

15. Actually, black people in general are "Commies" to many Pukes.

It goes back to J. Edgar Hoover and Martin Luther King (at least). Any group of a lesser perceived class whose inclination was to make social change by way of reform was labeled Communist. If you challenge the status quo to forward a social agenda for anybody other than the ruling class, you were labeled a Commie.

It pretty much works the same way today.

[AspenRose]

18. Exactly right. It's code. People need to review history, especially what was

going on during the civil rights era in the 60s.



Honestly, people...what does "race mixing" have to do with COMMUNISM? Oh that's right, NOTHING.

[BuyingThyme]

41. I could have just posted that pic.

Nice work.

[Sebastian Doyle]

32. The proud racist Jesse Helms swore MLK was a communist

...even decades after Dr. King was assassinated.

[truebrit71]

24. Birthers are automatically racists because they are making the assumption that Obama is not...

..."one of us"....they key code word there is "us", as in, White, God-fearing xtian....instead of Kenyan Muslim...

[FLDCVADem]

28. To birthers,

the key word is "us" as in "American".

[truebrit71]

31. Bullshit.

.

[FLDCVADem]

34. Ah, got your mind reading cap on again? n/t

[truebrit71]

37. ..

No, but apparently YOU do...:eyes:

[AllieB]

29. People on DU who deny that there are 'code words' used by racists

are grossly ignorant of history in this country.

[truebrit71]

30. no shit they are..

...:eyes:

[La Lioness Priyanka]

33. you don't see this birther issue as being racist? then, you are deliberately not seeing racism

no one else's "right" to be an american president has been questioned, till a black president comes along

i find not seeing racism, where it exists a clear problem with white privilege.

[Cha]

38. Hey, yeah, they're just stupid birthers...who don't believe

the President was born in the USA even though he has a birth certificate to prove it.

They don't have to be racist..just fucking idiots:silly:

[Mythsaje]

8. This whole speech thing is clearly racist...

And, frankly, I can't muster any sympathy for the fuckers one way or another. This virulent dislike and constant protest of this administration is far beyond anything we've ever seen before. It's worse than we were with Bush--and he was a MAJOR asshole. We had REASON to protest him. This bunch...not so much.

What conclusion can we possibly reach other than that they're afraid of his "African Voodoo Gaze"TM hypnotizing the children? I mean, think of the children.

[petronius]

16. I don't think the speech thing is racist at all - it's just a vacuous, obedient, knee-jerk response

to the constant talk radio harping on socialism and indoctrination. The wingers at this point are going to scream about anything and everything Obama says or does because they are dead-set on being as obstructionist as possible (since they've got nothing to offer, their plan is to try to sabotage everything around them).

The birther thing, however, is probably based in racism for the vast majority of its adherents...

[Hello_Kitty]

9. Not everyone who opposes Obama is a racist but everyone who's a Birther is.

Not only does it give them an excuse to express their anger that a black man got elected, it also allows them to obsess over the fact that he is the product of an interracial union. A substantial portion of white America is still deeply offended by "miscegenation" and the Birther movement allows them to seethe over the fact that Barack's white mother fucked Barack's black father, without being socially unacceptable. Pardon my French but that's what's going on there.

[rucky]

10. If they can't/won't explain their point-of-view rationally...

they're opening themselves up to people thinking the worst of their motives. Sorry, but I've seen it - and they usually bring it on themselves.

[Ian David]

11. If their disagreement is a racist one.

Example 1: "I disagree with the basic assumptions of Keynsian economics."-- You do NOT call them a racist.
Example 2: "The guy who came up with Keynsian Economics must be a Negro or something."-- You DO call them a racist.

Example 3: "I think charter schools are a win-win for the whole community." -- You do NOT call them a racist.
Example 4: "I'm not a racist, but I just think my kids would be more comfortable in a school with less of those inner-city types." -- You DO call them a racist.

Example 5: "I have no objection to Presidents Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Bush speaking to our kids."
Example 6: "Barrack HUSEIN Obama can't talk to our kids! He's gonna indoctrinate them into his Kenyan Muslim Socialist Chicago-Deep-Dish-Pizza Cult!"

[AspenRose]

20. "Afro-Leninism!"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x8633510


MUCH more dangerous and insidious than plain old pasty-white Russian Leninism! The Teabaggers say so! :dunce:

[noiretextatique]

12. racists often complain about getting called on their shit

for example, every person who has been caught sending racist depictions of obama (the "obamacare" photoshop with obama as a witch doctor), or the white house (watermelons on the lawn instead of easter eggs) claims they aren't racist and saw no racist intent in the racist depictions of obama. you know what's even more serious than the charge of racism? the act of racism.

[AspenRose]

27. Racists are usually cowards, and will never admit to their racism

even when they're called on it.

With the exception of Stormfront types who are loud and proud, they'll usually either act dumb (e.g. "What....I didn't realize what I just said was racist") or get their righteous indignation on (e.g. "How DARE you accuse me of being a racist just because I disagree!"). Seldom will they say, "well, ok, you got me...I AM a bigot..." - and people should quit waiting and expecting to hear that admission, because in most cases it ain't coming!

We've heard it said "not everyone who is a republican is a bigot, but bigots usually vote republican." There's a variation on that: Not everyone who disagrees with Obama is a bigot, but bigots will most definitely disagree with Obama.

[TxRider]

17. Not always, sometimes they are called notsees instead.

[KittyWampus]

19. You've never heard this? You never read DU? It's the kneejerk response to anyone who disagrees

with Obama unless it's a complaint coming from the Left.

Not only is the term racist thrown around to the point of absurdity on DU, it's what everything coming from the right is automatically reduced to.

And there is only a small minority of DU'ers with the sense to try and get the point across it isn't just racism, IT'S CLASS TOO, STUPID.

These people have been trained to foam at the mouth against any Democrat and accept whatever stupid reason their idiot leaders give them.

Ultimately these people do tend to be racist but it's incidental to their opposition to the Democratic POTUS right now.

They'd be just as unhinged if Hillary or Biden were in office.

[HillbillyBob]

21. Well if it walks like a duck...

From personal experience with family and acquaintances . The things that they have said up to and including the I could never vote for a N***** to he ain't like us sounds racist to me.
Bush was ILLEGITIMATELY installed in the White House, I saw with my own eyes our ballots in FL get shredded BEFORE they were counted at our polling place.
Now I don't agree with some of his policies, and I will state why, mostly it is because he has continued the unlawful unjust wars, voted for the FISA bs, and has not stood up to lead on health care, DOMA, ENDA, DATA..... That is not to say I would have ever voted for McCain and Palin, that would have been the same and worse if McCain died in office.

If they are not racist, at the very least they are bigots. I am gay and have heard any number of pretty horrid things said about anyone gay, muslim, of color, or immigrant whether legal or undocumented. I heard a lot of it from my own family over and over again. I have experienced a lot of bigotry.

I have experience with a wide variety of peoples which has opened my eyes, they want the same things as anyone else, to be able to feed their family, safety , security, a decent job, a decent home, respect for their persons.

My family has never left WV and some of the things they have said..I don't have anythng to do with the talibaptists. Maybe we should dump the lot of them together somewhere distant and inaccessible.

Maybe I just have a different view, I learned spanish in school, it came in handy living in Miami when dealing with bilingual folks who spoke english, but not well and most of those that did not speak English came to the US as older folks It is hard to learn a new language when older.

I m sick of the talibaptists, they are as hateful as the hard line muslims.
I did meet a lot of muslim folks in Fla, they too are much the same as anyone else.
Its the nuts that give them all a bad name, like the kkkreestians to Christian folks.
I don't want any thing to do with either.
The real kicker about the Muslim terrorists is that GHWB, Cheney, Rummy all were responsible along with Charlie Wilson with getting them armed and trained to fight the Soviets..unintended consequences, hmmm. In Afghanistan....

Frankly the kkkreestians take on that mantle of victim while they are trying to burn a cross propped against my house because I was gay and had diverse friends.
As if I had done something to them personally, I was always respectful and polit up to after six months of harasment.
That was in Alabama, I did nothin to those folks, while they threw bottles, rocks, slurs, vandalized my car,threatened lynching all the while trying to act like they were the victims.
In the end they were, cause I got out the shotgun and pumped 12g shells in their asses as they ran down the street covered in white sheets. Was only rock salt but they did not sit comfortable for a couple of weeks..queer I may be, but I grew up in WV where we hunt for food and get a spankin for wasting ammo.
We have been hearin this shit from the right for over 30 years now and I for one have reached the absolute end of my patience.

[gravity]

23. It is an easy defense for the republicans to use

When they cant think of anything to say in response of criticism. I agree that they want to claim victim status here.

One thing I do notice is that the republicans call the democrats racists, when they are defending against their own racism. It is another way to make the republicans feel like the victims

[spanone]

25. not anymore than liberals were called terrorists for disagreeing with junior*

[Stinky The Clown]

26. Racist is as racist does

If it walks like a duck ......

Etc.

[Cha]

36. Poor little widdle repubbies..

they are to pitied not censored.

They only have the corporatemedia, faux, et al, and hateradio to get their views from..I'm sure they're not all racists.

[aikoaiko]

39. Short answer: yes that happens.

I think some folks on the left are so completely dismayed by the right's irrational reaction to Obama's policy proposals, that the only satisfactory explanation is racism.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6489718

[hileeopnyn8d]

40. I've also seen it on message boards I frequent.

In fact, I see them claim it way, way more often than I see them actually accused. I call it preemptive victimhood.

I've also noticed that if it's said to one person, or about one incident, they all take that as it being said to them. A good example of that would be the reaction to the DHS right-wing extremist memo. If you're not a right-wing extremist, what on earth are you outraged about? It was a mystery.

Mostly, I think it's just another tactic they use to shut out any reasonable discourse. They don't have any problem calling the President a racist, but don't dare point out that there are *some* people whose reasons for "wanting their country back" has everything to do with race.

[KelleyKramer]

42. Racism causes irrational and/or unfounded fear ....

He's not REALLY an American

He is going to kill grandma

He is a socialist/fascist/marxist/stalinist (insert any other irrational claim)

He is going to TALK TO THE STUDENTS!!!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!


I'm not saying all of those groups are racist, but that IS a symptom of it and would wager a large chunk of those groups are in fact a result of irrational racists fears.