Hey, he is human and all humans make mistakes.

[wisteria]

The Rutger's basketball team has met with Imus and have SAID THEY ACCEPT HIS APOLOGY.
Now, can we all try stop making Imus the reason for all that is wrong in our society and what is said over the airwaves?

He is only human, yep only human and none of us are without wrongs that we have done to others also. Where has compassion and forgiveness gone? Until we learn to talk to one another-really talk- and not let the media or opportunists tell us how someone thinks or feels and how we should behave, we will never grow up and reach a better tomorrow.


http://www.comcast.net/sports/index.jsp?cat=SPORTS&fn=/2007/04/13/635684.html&cvqh=tis_imus

[Benhurst]

1. wisteria, wisteria, wisteria ...

Just because THEY have accepted his apology doesn't mean all who post here will.

:shrug:

I still think he isn't the issue. God knows others (Limbaugh et al) have said as bad or worse. No, as I see it, it is the corrupt corporate control of our public air waves which needs to be addressed. We've had a great time killing one of the messengers this week; but the corrupt,right-wing-controlled media is the message. MSNBC and CBS were so shocked, shocked. Yeah. Sure.

Our leaders and candidates need to repass the Fairness Doctrine which was abolished under Reagan and pass a new Telecommunications Act to replace the obscenity passed under Clinton, thereby restoring to the people control over the airwaves and cable.

[wisteria]

7. I agree. n/t

[Pirate Smile]

2. I just ran across this article on Newsweek and think it may help

illustrate the different views people have on the topic. You said it was a mistake, others think it is just who Imus is:


The Ugly Truth
Don Imus's words did not just offend black America. They also provoke a necessary conversation about the mainstream media, and what it finds acceptable.

Web-exclusive commentary
By Marcus Mabry
Newsweek
Updated: 12:25 p.m. CT April 12, 2007

April 11, 2007 - The fallout from Don Imus’s racist and misogynistic remarks about the Rutgers women’s basketball team has led to one of those periodic and quintessentially American paroxysms of disapproval, contrition and repentance. But the response of the mainstream media—and CBS radio and MSNBC, in particular—is as hypocritical as it is revealing. .

Using stereotypes—about blacks, Jews, women, and gays and lesbians—has been a part of Imus’s act for decades. I first listened to his show when I moved to New York in 1989 as a 22-year-old writer for NEWSWEEK. His comedy skits were often the subject of water-cooler discussion, so I felt Imus was must-hear radio. But I soon discovered his blatantly racist skits made my skin crawl. His “jokes” in the 1980s and ‘90s included skits in which the radio host and his sidekicks mimicked African-American public figures with deeply offensive stereotyped voices or called them racial names—like “bugaloo” for Johnnie Cochran, or “cleaning lady” for reporter Gwen Ifill.
Former Newsday columnist and editor Les Payne began writing about Imus’s racist invective as far back as the 1970s. And the liberal Web site TomPaine.com’s archive is full of “Imus Watch” items detailing his racist, sexist and homophobic remarks over the years.

In a May 23, 1993, column, when Imus was “on the verge of national syndication,” Payne wrote: “No advice on good taste breaks through the studio din, where, like David Koresh in his tower, Imus works surrounded by a choir of white male sycophants doing backup singing ... Black female celebrities, such as Oprah Winfrey and Aretha Franklin, are invariably put down as ‘black hos.’ Funny? I don’t think so. Rumors of a relationship between Whoopie Goldberg and Ted Danson struck , to the roar of the white male locker room, as ‘jungle retardation.’ Upon hearing his boss cite a black woman defending Imus against my criticism, McGuirk, in his best Amos ‘n’ Andy voice, mocked, ‘You ain’t no racist, Mister Imus, nah suh. No, thank you, I don’t want no watermelon!’"

The greatest hypocrisy of the Imus controversy is that Imus's description of the Rutgers teams was just a mistake. No. This is who Don Imus is—at least as a radio personality. For more than 30 years, he has been part of comedy skits on his radio show that are in bad taste and often racist. Imus himself said as much on the "Today" show on Monday: “This program has been, for 30 or 35 years, a program that makes fun of everybody.” The media establishment figures who appear on Imus know this.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18062462/site/newsweek/

[gaspee]

5. exactly

And like I've said elsewhere, the reason Limpballs and his ilk get away with what they do is because of who their audiences are. Imus has a more mainstream audience and a more mainstream show than do Limpballs, Hannity, etc. Their audiences *like* their schtick.

If what they said on a daily basis offended their audience and sponsors, they would be gone too. But their audience eats up what they say. I'm all for sponsors dropping (leading to cancellation) the hatemongers. but until enough of an audience doesn't support them (and that's the key -- not the people who want them taken off the air, but the people who want them kept on) they will continue to spew their hate and garbage.

I have never been able to watch Imus. I leave my TV on MSNBC when I go to bed at 8:00 (I work at 1:00 AM) so that my DVR will tape Olbermann's show. When I came home from work and turned it on, I would get Imus. I'd always turn his show off within minutes because he and his sidekick disgusted me so much.

I, for one, never ever thought he'd be taken to task for his misogynistic, rascist, homophobic screeds. I was wrong. Just like I hope that Limpballs will one day be held accountable for his hatemongering.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

3. Seems to me he insulted a lot more than the players.

Also, his apology was a steaming pile of bullshit.

The players publically accepting his apology is simply them showing a lot of class.

It certainly doesn't let Imus off the hook.

[seabeyond]

4. this is not a one time slip. it isnt a slip or mistake at all. just the first time

to be called on it. his whole show is based on demeaning other people and groups. i dont care what happens to the man. i dont care about the hoopla, but i am addressing your post that paints imus as something he is not

[wisteria]

8. Wow, so he isn't human? And you have been told that by the media. n/t

[seabeyond]

9. i said somewhere in my post he wasnt human? wow back atcha. n/t

[wisteria]

11. You acknowledge nothing but the things he has said, out of context and

not the human being behind the words. Obviously, forgiveness and objectivity aren't words you understand. It is easy to be hard.

[seabeyond]

15. it is not as if you arent just making up guesses on me either. i am very good at forgiveness

one of the things i shine at. as a matter of fact, i dont necessarily even believe there is a place as forgiveness. i dont believe anything needs to necessarily be taken to the point of forgiveness. i can accept that imus is who he is, puts out what he does and that is the life he choses to create which is each and everyone of our rights

to suggest because i did not mention him being human i ergo think he is not is silliness. it is just a given that he is human and i dont feel there was the need to verify the fact that he is. doesnt suggest i think he is NOT human, silly silly

and i dont see where you feel i am not being objective. that really leaves me in a quandry since i only stated this is not the first time, was not a slip or mistake, it is how he has run his show from the beginning which i think is truth..... leaving me to think i am pretty objective if i can clearly state and see truth

[DinahMoeHum]

6. Check out this editorial for an explanation of why he had to go.

http://www.buzzflash.com/articles/contributors/928

Imus was just low-hanging fruit at this time, compared to Hannity, Limbaugh, etc. He has been set as an example.

Life is not fair. People get fired all the time, especially in the broadcast industry, for a lot less.

:evilfrown:

[wisteria]

10. You miss my point entirely. It is about acknowledging that Imus is human

and as a human being we all make mistakes. It is about recognizing that we forgot about what was really important here- the feelings of all human beings- and that in our thirst for justice, we forgot to include compassion, understanding and forgiveness in the mix. We were lead by what the media told us and we took their words and observations and ran with them,never considering for a moment that perhaps they could be wrong.

[gaspee]

14. Well

I wasn't led by the media. I have personal experience of watching Imus' show and personally seeing him treat other people as less than human and personally being disgusted by his words. I have only expressed approval of his firing and have not called him non-human. Seems to me that he is the one who has constantly treated others as less than human and is finally being called on it.

[crispini]

12. Nobody here is saying that Imus is the reason for all that is wrong in our society.

You're kind of overstating it.

I, for one, have always thought that Imus was a big ol' hateful ass. I'd turn off his show every time I left MSNBC on accidentally the night before. I'm not particularly interested in being compassionate or forgiving towards someone who has demonstrated a repeated pattern of hate speech going back years.

[bunkerbuster1]

13. Did you ever actually listen to his show? Before this flareup?

Just curious.

[Pathwalker]

16. Some mistakes get you fired. This is a fact of life.

Many people have jobs that have certain prohibitions, ones that can and will get you fired should you ignore them. In a lot of jobs, saying the words Don Imus used - whether to a co-worker, or simply in conversation - would result in an immediate dismissal.
And some mistakes can get you killed - it happened to one of my husband's co-workers just last night. The man made a mistake that cost him his life.

[ClassWarrior]

17. Anyone who's raised a small child knows that "I'm sorry" means...

..."I'll never do it again." If he ever gets another show, we'll learn soon enough if his apology is sincere.

And yes, he's human, and humans make mistakes. And sometimes a human will make a mistake so vile and so public (not to mention so repeatedly) that he loses his job. That's life.

NGU.

[crispini]

19. Ha! You're kidding, right, CW?

If I recall correctly from my days as a small child, "I'm sorry" meant, "I'm sorry I got caught, and I'm going to make damn sure I don't get caught next time." :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[jillan]

18. What bothers me about this whole ordeal

Is why Imus?

We all know there are so many others that are more offensive than him.
Just look at all the threads.

Maybe it was time to shut them all up..

but why Imus?

I don't like what he said but the sad part is all the good he has done while Beck, Limpo and the rest have not contributed a dam thing to society.

[DavidDvorkin]

20. He certainly is NOT human

Oh, I thought you were talking about Karl Rove.

Sorry.