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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-13-07 10:49 AM
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Better hold on tight! It is going to get WAY worse before it gets any better.
Edited on Fri Apr-13-07 10:53 AM by hang a left
This administration and the justice department that worships it aren't going to be forthcoming with anything, nothing, nada. Every subpoena to appear, or subpoena duces te cum, with be fought long and hard. With each and every requirement that Congress compels them to provide them with will see the benches of the Supreme Court. This is the constitutional showdown that Bushco has wanted. They will push it to the limit to see that precedents are re-written and laws established long ago are re-interpreted. They have stacked the high court with 2 new federalists that are advocates of an imperial presidency.

Having said that, I believe we are in for a lot more lawlessness. What do they really have to lose? If the ALL the facts of Purgegate see the light of day, there would be charges of abuse of power, conspiracy to obstruct criminal investigations, false charges and rigged prosecutions of innocent people in order to affect an election, election fraud, and who knows what else. We are learning something new about this sordid ordeal every day.

What else could they do?? Well I am not sure. I ran out of imagination a while back with these organized crime figures. But I have a sick feeling in the pit of my stomach that they aren't finished with us yet.

But one thing does come to mind. AWOL just appointed a "privatization" advocate to head Social Security. I would not be surprised if behind everyone's backs they just went ahead and stole that money too. It is the only thing they haven't raided yet.

There will be no legacy for this pResidency. He will go down as the man that destroyed this country. He won't be able to reside here, that is why his retirement will be in Paraguay. If anyone is going to receive pardons they will be Cheney, Rove, Miers, and Abu. I am sure he will have a long list of criminals that have assisted in the raping of this country, and in turn for their loyalty to the "cause" they will walk away free. They won't be able to live here for fearof their lives when everything is done. But none of them will ever see on day in a SuperMax. And that is an outrage.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-13-07 10:51 AM
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1. Amen. Stand strong DU, and...
Never Give Up.


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terip64 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-13-07 10:58 AM
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5. Never surrender.
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-13-07 10:53 AM
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2. I hope the Congress and the Senate
will persevere with the legal remedies against their actions....
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bbgrunt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-13-07 10:56 AM
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3. yes indeed. This is planned. Anyone who thinks differently is naive.
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-13-07 10:57 AM
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4. Vehemently AGREE with ALL you said.
These 'in your face' psychopath criminals MUST be stopped and Congress must go after them relentlessly.
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doublethink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-13-07 11:01 AM
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6. Yep. n/t
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bonito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-13-07 11:06 AM
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7. Aside from some unknown behind closed door leverage
that might bring back order faster, I tend to agree with you.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-13-07 11:07 AM
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8. Thank GOD Al Gore put social security in a lockbox.
You know, the reason why Bush is giving away all the resources of this country, is because he's trying to buy public opinion. Yep, sounds odd, doesn't it? But if you buy the leaders of a community, you can also buy public opinion. Especially if those leaders have a monopoly on the means of communication in the area.
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-13-07 11:11 AM
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9. THat makes sense.
Everything is local, they say.
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Morgana LaFey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-13-07 11:50 AM
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17. Boy, you really give him way more credit and benefit of the doubt
than he deserves.

He's a GODDAMNED SOCIOPATH. He doesn't give a flying fuck about public opinion. He is raping this country from one end to the other and for generations to come. He and his masters and beneficiaries don't CARE about public opinion. He was just told in November that the nation wants OUT of Iraq and he turns around and works on doubling our presence. HE DOESN'T CARE ABOUT PUBLIC OPINION.

In fact, the case could be made that the more people hate him the more he relishes his power.

Wake up. He's a madman, a very dangerous madman who DOESN'T CARE ABOUT PUBLIC OPINION.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-13-07 12:46 PM
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21. Again, we disagree.
What the Bush Administration did pre-Libby verdict, and what they are doing post-Libby verdict, are two different things. They did indeed buy public opinion and the evidence was out in the open. Remember that Armstrong scandal? The paid pundit problem? What were they doing? Buying public opinion. And they were doing it quite successfully by giving government money to select pro-Republican organizations like parochial private schools. They even had black clergymen thinking school vouchers were a good idea. And once snared into the fold, the Repubs even, almost, successfuly found a common bond with black conservatives who were also opposed to the gay issue.

All of it was in an effort to influence public opinion.

What they're doing now, is working without a plan. Everyday is a new day for this administration, a lesson in damage control, and it's obvious that they bet the bank on their crony groups, because now that they're gone, they have no where else to go.
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MN ChimpH8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-13-07 08:30 PM
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25. I am increasingly convinced that
the Chimperor and Cheney are 100% pure sociopathic megalomaniacs. Nothing else can begin to explain their "policies" of loot, steal, expoloit, kill and destroy.

They are total economic royalists who would happily exterminate (as in murder) a third of the population if they could get away with it. With any luck, Conyers, Leahy and Waxman will push on and make the case for immediate chimpeachment of the heads of this utterly immoral criminal cabal and their henchmen and their immediate removal to the Hague.

As we learned from Neuremberg, the appropriate punishment for such crimes against humanity is being hanged, which is the precise sentence the World Court should hand down against the Bush Crime Family. With one exception. The Chimperor should be spared. He is far too stupid and mentally ill to understand why the sentence would be imposed. Chimpoleon should spend the rest of his life digging graves, with a shovel, six days a week, ten hours a day. Not graves to be used, but to serve as symbols of the countless number of lives his greed, stupidity, imbecilic "faith" and mental pathologies have taken.

IMPEACHMENT!
CONVICTION!
EXTRADITION TO THE HAGUE!
NOW!
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-13-07 11:12 AM
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10. I agree...
Every time W is confronted with the contrary will of a)the 9/11 commission, b)the generals on the ground, c) the Iraq study group, d) a midterm election where his party loses both the Senate and House, etc, etc... people say things like "Surely NOW he will bend to the wishes of XXX"

To date, W's only response has been "FU... and don't call me Shirley"
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MUAD_DIB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-13-07 11:17 AM
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11. I have a solution. If lil boots does indeed flee after wrecking America

and goes into luxurious retreat in Paraguay, if his cronies follow him there, then ask Paraguay to return him and all that are guilty of treason.

If Paraguay refuses then just fucking carpet bomb the whole country.



Justice served.
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femmedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-13-07 11:36 AM
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16. Carpet bomb Paraguay?


You're kidding, right?
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enid602 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-13-07 12:00 PM
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18. Just the compound
He probably won't have any neighbors nearby.
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MUAD_DIB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-13-07 12:21 PM
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20. Yes. But I'm not about the * compound.

If the screw the US then leave then all bets should be off.
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lyonn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-13-07 11:17 AM
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12. Dick Durbin was speaking this a.m. on c-span and made the
comment that Senator Johnson is recovering nicely and should be back in the Senate soon. That will help put the brakes on these lawbreakers. Actually Durbin was speaking to a group about the banckruptcy law. Durbin is a Senator to be proud of.
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the other one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-13-07 11:22 AM
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13. Well conceived rant. Rec'd.
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DinahMoeHum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-13-07 11:22 AM
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14. There IS another alternative. . .
and unfortunately, it's not fit for discussion here.

:evilfrown:
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-13-07 11:24 AM
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15. They have never waivered from scorched earth. But the Democratic leadership is too ineffective, too
dithering, too unsure, too fumbling, too weak to win this battle.
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-13-07 12:07 PM
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19. Well if they drop the ball on this one....
we shall know where we stand.
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-13-07 01:15 PM
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23. Right now I'm feeling like Patrick Fitzgerald dropped the ball, too.
He never did prosecute anyone for breaking up Brewster Jennings by outting Valerie Plame. He only took down Scooter for lying. That WAS NOT what he was hired to do. The purpose of his being appointed was to prosecute whoever did the deed. He stopped way short. And nobody can tell me that the reason he stopped short was simply because Scooter lied.

:kick:
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-13-07 01:11 PM
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22. I totally agree: And MOST senators & congressmen don't have a CLUE how bad it is.
Waxman, Conyers, Leahy, Finegold, Kucinich, Byrd, and PROBABLY Webb understand what is going on, and what is at stake. But for the most part, idiots (like Hillary and Obama, for instance ;) ) are too busy thinking it's all about politics, and don't realize that it's far more than that.

The United States as it was pre-2000, is in the past. It WASN'T 9/11 that changed everything: it was the supreme court handing the presidency to someone who DID NOT WIN that office, in direct disregard for the constitution, the people of this country, and for all the men & women before us who gave their lives to preserve our Democracy.

Bush & his lackeys have NEVER intended to do what was best for the masses in this country, but ONLY what was good for their inner circle, and the very wealthy who could have easily brought them down, if they had had a shred of patriotism or ethics.

If ALL the members of congress understood fully what is going on here, and if they CARED once they knew (some repukes & DLCers aren't going to care), then we might be able to pull together an army of patriots to get rid of the thugs. But there are too many POLITICIANS in congress, who are just there for the games and the money and the power. They are going to be the ones that fiddle while Rome burns, and we'll never get justice.

I really do believe that the majority of Americans at this point want justice. But only a few of us want it ENOUGH. That is really sad.

:kick::kick::kick: & recommend
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-13-07 08:16 PM
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24. The image is burned into my memory of ** and pickles
walking on that stage after coronation 2004 hand in hand giving the "texas longhorn" hand signal at a formal affair. Still gives me the chills.
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Grandrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-13-07 08:31 PM
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26. Obama is my senator.....
I did not vote for a idiot, thank you very much!!! Other than that, I can agree with much of which you say.:dem:
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Bosso 63 Donating Member (759 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-14-07 08:19 AM
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27. The people in power are looking for a "nice" way out .
But I agree, thats not likely. Bush Co. is going to get more dangerous as they are cornered. Right now, i suspect that their plan is to grab what they can and run out the clock. I'm glad to see Democrats pushing back finally, but my hope is that republicans will realize that they are at risk of being marginalized into a third party status if Bush remains unchecked. In any event, fasten your seat belts, because this ride is about to get bumpy.
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