Lies to cover up the lies...

[kentuck]

And pretty soon, you forget which lies you told to cover up the last lies?

A right-wing talking point, which I heard again from the Cheneys on TV this morning, is that torture worked. It kept us safe for 8 years. Huh?

I thought we stopped torturing prisoners in 2003?? So what has kept us safe for the last 6 years if we stopped torturing in 2003? And how could we protect the country without torture? And if we could protect the country for the last 6 years without torture, why did we need it after September 11th, 2001?

It is simply a lie to cover up a lie. It does not add up.

[Th1onein]

1. kentuck! You are GREAT!

K & R

[kentuck]

2. Thanks Th1onein !

Sometimes the obvious is right in front of our eyes.

[malaise]

3. Great point but how did they keep people safe for eight years

when 9/11 took place in 2001.

Rec

[muffin1]

6. However did Bill Clinton manage to keep us safe for eight years

after the first WTC attack without torture?

Shitbag takes over in January 2001, and within eight months...:evilfrown:

[flyarm]

4. and if we tortured innocent people how did that keep us safe????

http://www.talkleft.com/story/2009/8/29/23471/7768

Two Syrian Detainees at Guantanamo Freed in Portugal
By Jeralyn, Section Terror Detainees

Posted on Sun Aug 30, 2009 at 07:02:00 AM EST
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Two Syrian detainees at Guantanamo have arrived in Portugal and are now free.

The U.S. has not released their names. In June, a federal judge ordered the release of Syrian detainee Abdul Rahim Abdul Razak al-Janko. The court's opinion is here (pdf.)

Al-Janko was first captured by al-Qaeda who tortured him, causing him to falsely confess he was an American spy. Then he was imprisoned by the Taliban who thought he really was an American spy. The Taliban abandoned the prison where al-Janko was being held but left him there. The Americans found him, imprisoned him in Kandahar and sent him to Guantanamo where he has remained for 7 years. Hopefully, he's one of those released to Portugal and freed.




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how do we know what is truth and what is not if anyone is tortured???????? we don't.

We get false info that does not make anyone safe!


Toronto Star: How Canadian lawyer unearthed U.S. torture documents

"A lot of the documents describe abuses that are really horrific," he said in an interview. "It was hard to believe that these incidents had occurred in facilities run by the United States."

The complete piece is at: http://www.thestar.com/news/world/article/688429

[kayakjohnny]

5. Nice!

Good one.
Simple.
Succinct.
Accurate.

[spanone]

7. i'm absolutely sure that faux news corrected cheney, i'm ABSOLUTELY sure

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[kentuck]

8. And I see they are still spreading this lie this morning..

and no one has called them on it yet.