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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-30-09 10:09 AM
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Carville and Matalin disgust me.
Edited on Sun Aug-30-09 10:12 AM by Avalux
They are both on CNN right now, sitting there 'debating' the CIA torture investigation. Of course it's not really a debate and I question whether Carville has any convictions at all when he's married to a lackey for Cheney. I think both of them found a way to make money and that's what they do - neither of them care one lick about this country.

They are representative of most in government/elected officials nowadays (on both sides) and the opposite of what Ted Kennedy was - being a Senator wasn't just a job for him. He was the epitomy of public service.

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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-30-09 10:12 AM
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1. Whenever I think of the two of them, I think of scorpions mating.
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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-30-09 10:14 AM
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2. Just as I've known liberal women who go for the angry conservative male
maybe he likes the unrepentant shrew types. I see it as a fetish.
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-30-09 10:15 AM
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3. Interesting.
Maybe not so much a fetish as a personality disorder. ;-)
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ensho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-30-09 10:17 AM
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4. they get paid well to do their act


its a money making gig


they punk us.
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-30-09 10:41 AM
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9. yes its a act
Liars Liars Liars
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-30-09 10:25 AM
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5. Well, their personal lives don't really interest me all that much
but I'm wondering why people think it's patently impossible for two people with different opinions on politics to get along, or even be married to each other and still have very deep convictions.

:shrug:






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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-30-09 10:48 AM
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11. My parents have done it for years
The suggestion that he should break up with his wife because she doesn't share his political views is disturbing.
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-30-09 11:09 AM
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12. Do your parents make their careers out of politics?
It's one thing to have a difference of opinions, quite another to live those opinions and put the 'act' on display for an audience.
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Celebration Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-30-09 11:14 AM
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14. Agreed n/t
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-30-09 12:46 PM
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26. I don't understand what you're suggesting
Edited on Sun Aug-30-09 01:12 PM by Clintonista2
They're both commentators, they go on TV and share their views. Are you suggesting he isn't a true liberal unless he gets a divorce? You should bash someone because you don't like their views, not because you don't like their spouse.
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RufusTFirefly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-30-09 11:30 AM
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19. I think it depends on how you view politics
For me, it's not just another topic or tangential pursuit like stamp-collecting or ice hockey. It's my fundamental value system.

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WestSeattle2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-30-09 12:02 PM
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24. In a word? Immaturity. Emotionally immature people
have no concept of what mature behavior entails, or even looks like. They need to be surrounded by their echo chamber, and usually lack the critical thinking and debating skills that mature people rely on, to avoid turning a generic political debate into personal animosity. I was in a 20-year long term relationship with someone diametrically opposed to my view of the world, and never once did our discussions even come close to being disrespectful. We both found our debates not only educational, but highly entertaining. Often times we would fall back on hyperbolic stereotypes of each others' political party and end up laughing our heads off.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-30-09 01:32 PM
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28. Could you live with and make love to someone who helped put Cheney where
he could hurt this nation the way he did?

It is not just a matter of intellectual disagreement between two people, neither of whom is actually in government. She was/is an accomplice, IMO.

Anyway, I am not so sure how much they disagree. He called her, while she was in Cheney's office, to betray Kerry's campaign against Bush. That is not, in my book, a Democrat.

As far as I am concerned, Carville lost his sole long ago, or maybe he simply sold it.
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paulsby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-30-09 03:13 PM
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30. it;s a common accepted thing on DU, i agree. it's not in the real world
look at how many posts here exhibit HATE towards repubs, etc. so, of course those people find it hard to believe that two people with very different political views can have a loving relationship.

in my life, i have found no evidence that repubs or dems are better people in any way, and i certainly do not choose my friends based on their politics.

for many people here (and elsewhere) politics is some kind of weird religion where you can't even imagine marrying outside or even voluntarily associating outside your narrow group.

for most people (in the real world), this is not the case ime.

it's the pauline kael syndrome exemplified
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mamaleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-30-09 04:11 PM
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33. Maybe some want their relationships to be echo chambers as well?
Edited on Sun Aug-30-09 04:21 PM by mamaleah
It would seem rather dull. But I guess if your ego needs nonstop stroking, look for a mate who will do that.

OTOH, for some people, politics is a religion. And really, you do need to match on that usually, or at least have plans for real conflict resolution.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-30-09 10:27 AM
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6. Me too!
They have ONE priority and one priority only, to enrich their coffers. They will say anything, do anything to that end, imo.
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-30-09 10:38 AM
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7. Is THAT freak show still playing?
They're one of the main reasons I quit watching TV. I remember how I wanted to puke every time fat tim russert would have them on actin all cute about how two people with such opposing political views could live with each other.

Well of course it was an act. She believes very strongly in right wing policies and making lots of money. He believes in making money.

I got to the point where I turned off the TV when I saw them coming on. Then eventually I just left it off.

Plus I don't care what anybody says, those are two FUGLY people.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-30-09 10:40 AM
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8. You know, Teddy did something for all of us...lived a life that we measure others to
Edited on Sun Aug-30-09 10:40 AM by Jennicut
Carville is a hack and disgusting in comparison.
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-30-09 10:45 AM
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10. OThers may see this and say Carville has had to have strong
convictions to have remained a Democrat.

Some people see family as more than Politics.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-30-09 11:11 AM
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13. My mother was a socialist and my dad was a right winger
and they hung on grimly until death did them part, 58 years later.

Political discussions when I was growing up were, um, pungent. I always thought my mother had the better case. so I grew up socialist. Still am.

I think they had a very old world view of marriage and didn't expect full compatibility, just a good working relationship for life issues.

That might be at work for Matalin and Carville. They're both in the political prostitution business and that's probably the glue that holds them together.

Of course, I never know what holds any couple together. I wasn't able to achieve it so it's a mystery to me.

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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-30-09 11:15 AM
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15. I guess that's what disgusts me.
Edited on Sun Aug-30-09 11:16 AM by Avalux
I can't take either of them seriously because they are a political hack act. I certainly could not be married to someone who has strong right wing convictions; my own beliefs are so fundamentally humanitarian it just wouldn't work.
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-30-09 11:18 AM
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16. They collaborate when it comes to sharing inside facts about the other party
Their marriage works because each makes the other one more powerful within their respective circles. It's more of a partnership in their common views than what is normally considered to be a marriage. They enable each other, prop each other up, continue to be cogent and significant through working together. Because for them it doesn't matter who's in power because one of them will always be a pundit for their respective parties.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-30-09 11:23 AM
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17. That really is one CREEPY couple - both slimy as can be. nt
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-30-09 11:25 AM
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18. It's weird about Carville. He seemed to have such incredible gifts
and they've turned to dross, because his "house" now seems to be "built on sand". A corporatist to his finger-tips.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-30-09 11:31 AM
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20. Are there ANY ex-Clinton staff members who are not corporatists??
That whole group makes me sick ~ starting with Rahm.
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-30-09 03:53 PM
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31. Yes, I thought that, but I got to like Bill and Hillary, when Bill, in particular, was under the
right-wing media cosh. Not in truth on moral, but on totally political, grounds, of course.
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Doremus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-30-09 11:39 AM
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21. Whores of the highest order.
I wouldn't say they couldn't care less about the stream of opinions they spew forth, but they care very little.

The cause that brings a real twinkle to their eye is their own bank account.


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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-30-09 11:39 AM
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22. If You Can Watch The Old HBO Show "K Street" ......
It was only on for one season. I was able to purchase the DVD for that season for $3.00. Anyway - it illustrates what complete opportunists Carville and Matalin are.

I didn't watch the show when it was on. Now that I'm more politically aware - its interesting to watch. I'm seeing through a different perspective now and it is easy to see how we are manipulated.
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-30-09 11:42 AM
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23. I might have to pick that up.
It's clear we are manipulated - lots of people profit from it.
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GoldenOldie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-30-09 12:09 PM
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25. Carville and Matlin in the same league as Limpballs, O'Reilly, Hannity, Buchanan, etc., etc.,
They offer nothing to improve society and our country but seem to thrive and prosper on the pain and humiliation of their fellowman. It amazes me how so many seemingly intelligent individuals listen and fall for their bulls--t at the detriment to their own well being. They have prospered and became millionaires simply by having unfettered control of the airwaves ........no different than cult leaders who use mind control.
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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-30-09 01:33 PM
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29. well, to be fair, Carville CLEARLY is not in the same league
as Limbaugh/O'Reilly/Hannity/Beck.


not as if i like him; he's just CLEARLY not nearly as bad as the others you compared him to.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-30-09 01:25 PM
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27. BOTH SUCK...nuff said
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felinetta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-30-09 04:03 PM
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32. And I believe Matalin is publishing Beelzebub's book.
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