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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-27-09 02:44 PM
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Edited on Thu Aug-27-09 02:50 PM by babylonsister
http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2009/08/wellstoning-by-digby-yesterday-i-warned.html

Wellstoning

by digby

Yesterday, I warned everyone to gird themselves for the Wellstoning and it's already happening:

Conservative media invoke Wellstone smear in anticipation of Kennedy's service

Hannity on Kennedy's death: "a lot of this was the politicizing of -- remember Paul Wellstone's death?" Discussing Kennedy's death during his radio program, Sean Hannity asserted, "We've got The Wall Street Journal reporting -- and by the way, a lot of this was the politicizing of -- remember Paul Wellstone's death? You know, 'Let's do everything for Paul.' And we're now being implored to get behind Obamacare because it's what Ted Kennedy would have wanted." {The Sean Hannity Show, 8/26/09}

Savage fill-in Markowski on possible naming of health care bill after Kennedy: "It's political theater" like the "Wellstone memorial." Chris Markowski, filling in for Michael Savage on his radio program, took a caller who said that "if Ted Kennedy had wanted his name on this health care bill, I think that he would -- I would want to see where he said that in writing before he died. He had plenty of time." Markowski responded, in part, by asserting: "I don't think he's requested -- you got to understand, it's a show. OK? It's political theater. Like the Democrats thought that whole Wellstone memorial was going to -- it was going to force them to -- it was going to allow them to win the Senate race in Minnesota. This is political theater. It's a show." {The Savage Nation, 8/26/09}

Lopez on Kennedy's death: Wellstone service "turned into a political rally." The National Review Online's Kathyrn Jean Lopez wrote in an August 26 post to the blog The Corner titled "Re: The Politics of Ted Kennedy's Passing": "All politicos need to remember the Wellstone funeral when a well-known politician dies. Instead of memorializing his life, his service turned into a political rally. Some of the MSNBC coverage today I'm catching looks like a {sic} Obamacare convocation. Human life is about more than poltics. And politics isn't American Idol. Or, even, The Lion of the Senate."

Allahpundit "sure" Kennedy "eulogies won't be politicized at all." Hot Air blogger Allahpundit wrote in an August 26 tweet: "Looking forward to the Democratic line-up at TK's memorial service. I'm sure the eulogies won't be politicized at all."

Instapundit: "A Wellstone Memorial on steroids?" An August 26 post on Instapundit.com linked to a post by JammieWearingFool with the headline "A Wellstone Memorial on steroids? And how did that work out?" JammieWearingFool asserted in the post, written the same day, "While we have no doubt the Democrats will do all they can to exploit his death and will probably have a Wellstone memorial on steroids, we'll stay above that." The link on the words "Wellstone memorial" were to an October 30, 2002, Slate.com article describing Wellstone's memorial services as a "pep rally."

Noting "conservative talking point," Politico's Smith says "{i}t would seem odd to bar politics" from Kennedy's funeral. In an August 26 post, Politico's Ben Smith referred to the comments by Allahpundit and Instapundit as "a conservative talking point {that} is emerging to counter the the hope on the left that Kennedy's death will advance his cause of health care reform," and commented:


Wingnuts don't think liberals should be allowed to have political heroes. This, despite the weeks long memorials for Gerald Ford and Ronald Reagan (I can still hear the keening) in recent years where I seem to recall that politics were mentioned a time or two.

I doubt seriously that the Democrats have learned how to handle these things any better than they did in the past. There's no evidence of it anyway. In fact, if things go the way they usually do in the face of a right wing hissy fit, they will end up agreeing to scuttle health care reform altogether as penance for their bad behavior.


*Go to this link for a full debunking of the Wellstone smear from Al Franken:

http://mediamatters.org/research/200908270005
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-27-09 02:48 PM
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1. Then change the name of the damned airport
Reagan is a stupid name for an airport anyway. x(
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Adam Kirur Donating Member (73 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-27-09 03:05 PM
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7. Don't turn it into a goddamn rally for HC reform!
Don't even mention the issue! If lucky, maybe enough people get inspired to act on their own!
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-27-09 04:11 PM
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10. Kennedy said it was the cause of his life. Argue with him about it, not me.
And btw, you haven't been around here long enough for me to take you seriously. So, buzz off.
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malletgirl02 Donating Member (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-27-09 05:59 PM
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14. Kind of Ironic
Naming an airport after Reagan is kind of ironic, because of the whole Air traffic controller incident.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-27-09 06:05 PM
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15. Yes, like salt in the wound
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-27-09 02:50 PM
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2. I have responses for some of these:
For Hannity: The man served 47 years in public office. When did you serve in any way at all?

For Markowski: Why should we not honor this man's service? Explain that to me.


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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-27-09 02:55 PM
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4. Here's a cartoon that probably makes them crazy
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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-27-09 02:51 PM
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3. I hope it really sticks in the RW craw
Edited on Thu Aug-27-09 02:52 PM by azmouse
that Kennedy was so beloved.

You just know the Idiot Son is more likely to be booed in death than applauded.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-27-09 03:01 PM
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5. Please. They're still telling themselves that Reagan was wonderful.
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alsame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-27-09 03:03 PM
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6. From the party that can't go a week without
mentioning Reagan. :rofl:

Who cares what they think? As long as everything said is acceptable to the Kennedy family, the pundits can STFU.
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Terry in Austin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-27-09 03:13 PM
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8. The verb "To Wellstone"
I first heard it used in the sense of "political elimination by means of arranging a transportation accident."

I suppose these things take a while to settle down -- maybe "To Boycott" had several meanings for some time after the good captain misbehaved and incurred the sanctions that now bear his name.

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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-27-09 03:15 PM
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9. Fuck them
Tell them to check the Rude Pundit. Dems are going to have a Democatic send off - who can't deal with it can turn it off.

It's going to be a Liberal and Proud send off.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-27-09 04:12 PM
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11. Then we should do all of it.
Do exactly what they're saying we're doing. Turn it into a political event. Talk about the causes Teddy championed and stress that we should redouble our efforts to achieve them in his honor.

It's the "Yeah, so?" gambit. They play it daily. Let's play it just once.
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GrantDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-27-09 04:14 PM
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12. They are doing so because they know this changes the conversation.
There is now a rallying point for TRUE reform.

"I promised Teddy."
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gauguin57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-27-09 04:23 PM
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13. Those right-wing bastards don't deserve to speak the names "Kennedy" OR "Wellstone."
They need to STFU. Now.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-27-09 06:11 PM
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16. Above all, DON'T APOLOGIZE
Edited on Thu Aug-27-09 06:12 PM by Lydia Leftcoast
I was furious at what the right-wing did with the Wellstone memorial service and almost as furious about the way the Minnesota DFL apologized to the Republicanites.

I would have said, "Yeah, you bet your sweet ass it was political. He was a politician. Now get over yourselves."

Apologizing when you have done nothing wrong is a sign of weakness, and the Republicans made hay.
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