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Are_grits_groceries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-25-09 12:53 PM
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A Florida Culture-War Circus Over Rifqa Bary (A miniCrusade or something)
Florida has a knack for turning family dysfunction into national spectacle. Ten years ago it gave us the Elian Gonzalez mess; five years later came the Terri Schiavo debacle. Now we have a new domestic dispute that threatens to become another culture-war circus, complete with a clash-of-religions angle to boot: the battle for Rifqa Bary, a 17-year-old girl from Columbus, Ohio, who ran away to an Evangelical church in Orlando, Fla., because, she claims, her Sri Lankan Muslim family has threatened to kill her for recently converting to Christianity.

The saga began in mid-July when Rifqa, after a dispute with her parents, bolted from her home and rode a bus to Orlando. There she took refuge with the Rev. Blake Lorenz, the pastor of a conservative Christian congregation, the Global Revolution Church, and his wife Beverly, whom the cheerleader and honor student had met on Facebook. Almost three weeks later, on Aug. 6, the Lorenzes finally let authorities and Rifqa's frantic parents know the girl was with them. Then, a few days later, Rifqa dropped a bombshell to an Orlando television station: she had run away, she claimed, because her family, angry about her conversion to Christianity, had "threatened to kill me."

Wearing a white dress and a silver cross, her dark hair often falling over her scared eyes, the small and slender Rifqa insisted in the TV interview (now on YouTube) that her father Mohamed Bary, a Columbus jeweler, "said he would kill me or send me back to Sri Lanka," where she said "they have asylums where they put people like me." She said her death would be a Muslim "honor killing," the kind of murder that women in deeply conservative Muslim societies are sometimes victims of when they're deemed to have shamed their families. (The U.N. Population Fund estimates that there are as many as 5,000 worldwide honor killings every year.) Rifqa said that her father, upon discovering her Facebook profile and its declarations of her Christian faith, told her, "If you have this Jesus in your heart, you're dead to me, you're not my daughter." She added, almost hysterically, "They have to kill me ... I want to worship Jesus freely. I don't want to die!"

It's a serious charge that any law-enforcement or social-services official would have to look into, particularly since there have in fact been some extremely rare instances of honor killings in the U.S. Most recently two Dallas-area sisters were murdered last year, allegedly by their Egyptian-born Muslim father, who relatives say was enraged that his daughters, 18 and 17 years old, were dating non-Muslim boys. (The father is still at large and is believed to have fled the country.) But Mohamed Bary and his wife Aysha adamantly insist it is "completely false" that they ever threatened to kill Rifqa over her conversion. "We love her; we want her back. She is free to practice her religion, whatever she believes in. That's O.K.," Mohamed told the Associated Press last week.

If Rifqa's claims are indeed false, that raises the question of whether she may have been prodded by her new friends at Global Revolution Church to make the death-threat accusations, and whether she was somehow lured to Orlando by the Lorenzes via the Internet. The couple, who could not be reached for comment, have denied it to the media. But Beverly Lorenz has acknowledged that she talked by phone with Rifqa before the girl ran away. Blake Lorenz, who insists that Rifqa will be killed if she goes home, earlier this month made clear to reporters his Crusades-era belief that this is part of Christianity's holy struggle against Islam: "These are the last days; these are the end times," he said, "and this conflict between Islam and Christianity is going to grow greater. This conflict between good and evil is going to grow greater."

(There is much more to this story at the site. What a mess!)

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1918228,00.html

She needs to be raised by someone with an open mind whoever that is these days.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-25-09 01:00 PM
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1. A very strange story, and the truth is hidden, I'm sure,
on both sides. She's 17, just one year away from being a legal adult. In most jurisdictions, it's possible to appeal to the court to be declared an emancipated minor. Normally, this requires that you be self-supporting and independent, but it might be possible to pull this off.

On the other hand, this church sounds like a wacko end-times version of Christianity. They may not be telling the truth. Her parents, too, might not be telling the truth.

What a dilemma.

One other option for her is to find a state that allows a 17-year-old to marry without parental permission and have her marry someone.

I just don't know.
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Are_grits_groceries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-25-09 01:04 PM
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3. I have no idea. nt
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imdjh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-25-09 01:08 PM
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5. Revenge for the Krishnas
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-25-09 01:04 PM
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2. the koran has`t any problem with jesus and his mom....
just dumb fuck fundies of both religions do...
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grassfed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-25-09 01:05 PM
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4. Rifqa's most fanatic advocate is rabid anti-Islamic racist Pamela Geller of Atlas Shrugs a
Pamela Geller obsessively stokes the fire for Christian/Islam war to the death, she isn't a Christian herself.

For strong stomachs:
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com

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