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yorgatron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 03:00 PM Original message |
HELP! my brother did cash-for-clunkers and now the dealer wants more money.HELP! |
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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 03:02 PM Response to Original message |
1. More money for what? |
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question everything (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 03:03 PM Response to Original message |
2. It is illegal to ask for payment or to keep the car at the dealer |
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NYC_SKP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 03:03 PM Response to Original message |
3. Back out of the deal, call another dealer ASAP. |
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madmax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 03:11 PM Response to Reply #3 |
9. That's what I'd do! n/t :thumbsup: |
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sam sarrha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 04:29 PM Response to Reply #3 |
37. write/call the state Attorney general |
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Emit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 03:03 PM Response to Original message |
4. What were they asking for orginally? And what are they asking for now? |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 03:05 PM Response to Original message |
5. Take the car back and walk away. |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 04:26 PM Response to Reply #5 |
35. LOL. I always have to laugh when people still believe that urban legend. |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 04:37 PM Response to Reply #35 |
39. Here we have three days to reconsider. |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 04:40 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. That depends on the state |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 04:42 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. Well that sucks. |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 04:43 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. Well, honestly, if someone drives to a dealer |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 04:48 PM Response to Reply #44 |
47. Lemon Law. |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 04:51 PM Response to Reply #47 |
50. Lemon Law is done with the manufacturer not the dealer |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 05:13 PM Response to Reply #50 |
58. Well, I dunno then. |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 05:06 PM Response to Reply #43 |
54. Are you sure about that? What state? |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 05:26 PM Response to Reply #54 |
62. Out of curiousity, I dug out my contract. |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 05:37 PM Response to Reply #62 |
64. I believe you did have a conversation. |
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MindPilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 04:51 PM Response to Reply #39 |
49. Not in California. |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 04:52 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. CA does have a used car return policy |
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Swede Atlanta (906 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 03:06 PM Response to Original message |
6. Look at the sales contract...... |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 03:07 PM Response to Original message |
7. Explain to the dealer why you don't use a federal program as a cover to scam people. |
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yorgatron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 03:11 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. I think the dealer will regret it if I have to go down there and talk to them. |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 03:15 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. WHo is your congressman? |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 04:22 PM Response to Reply #8 |
34. The trade-in car doesn't qualify. |
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mnhtnbb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 03:15 PM Response to Original message |
11. Get out the sales contract and see what it says. Call legal aid for help |
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nosmokes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 03:23 PM Response to Original message |
12. hit the CARS website. there are links there re: scams |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 03:25 PM Response to Original message |
13. They want more money to get the financing done, right? |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 03:28 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. That may be business as usual (legal or not) but now they're messing with a federal program. |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 03:30 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. Not really. This has nothing to do with C4C. |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 04:15 PM Response to Reply #16 |
30. He didn't finance per the OP and the tradein has 20mpg so it has EVERYTHING about c4c. |
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NYC_SKP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 04:42 PM Response to Reply #16 |
42. The Buick gets 20 mpg and does not qualify. It's not a clunker. |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 04:44 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. I saw that...and the cars.gov site confirms it. Why are we even having this discussion? |
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abumbyanyothername (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 03:29 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. How much more money could they need for financing? |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 03:31 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. Depends on the lender's demands. |
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angstlessk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 03:34 PM Response to Reply #13 |
18. There is NO FINANCING...paid CASH/CREDIT CARD AND CASH FOR CLUNKERS |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 03:36 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. I missed that. The only issue, then, is how the contract reads. |
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yorgatron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 03:45 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. all this "combined mileage" crap is giving me a headache. |
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MindPilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 03:55 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. Doesn't matter if they made a mistake |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 04:19 PM Response to Reply #23 |
32. Dealerships are far smarter than that. |
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MindPilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 04:28 PM Response to Reply #32 |
36. Yep, you're right--it flat doesn't qualify |
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MindPilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 03:50 PM Response to Original message |
21. Have you got the new car and a bill of sale? |
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Lex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 03:52 PM Response to Original message |
22. What does the written contract say? Who has possession of the car? |
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greguganus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 03:55 PM Response to Original message |
24. You need to post more information about the contract if you want help here. n/t |
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yorgatron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 04:04 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. my brother is across town,on the phone with the hotline for C4C |
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neverforget (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 03:59 PM Response to Original message |
25. Put the rest on a credit card? |
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MindPilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 04:05 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. Actually I did that last week. |
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TwixVoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 05:40 PM Response to Reply #27 |
66. So you took what should have been an UNSECURED loan |
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MindPilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 05:47 PM Response to Reply #66 |
70. A car loan is not unsecured |
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taterguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 04:08 PM Response to Original message |
28. Post the address of the dealer and I'll send this guy over there |
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cwydro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 04:18 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. Wait! |
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taterguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 05:13 PM Response to Reply #31 |
55. That's a domesticated goose |
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cwydro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 05:19 PM Response to Reply #55 |
60. Oh dear. |
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NYC_SKP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 06:32 PM Response to Reply #28 |
75. . |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 04:14 PM Response to Original message |
29. 1988 Buick Century 3spd V6 2.8L is 20mpg which does not qualify. |
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NYC_SKP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 04:39 PM Response to Reply #29 |
40. Oh Shit! |
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DU GrovelBot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 04:19 PM Response to Original message |
33. ## PLEASE DONATE TO DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND! ## |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 04:34 PM Response to Original message |
38. You need to read the contract |
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MindPilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 04:46 PM Response to Reply #38 |
46. My contract doesn't mention that. |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 04:48 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. I would still read the fine print. n/t |
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MindPilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 05:23 PM Response to Reply #48 |
61. On what little information we have here I think the best thing for the OP |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 05:13 PM Response to Reply #46 |
57. Dealer wont't eat it the consumer will. |
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pipoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 05:36 PM Response to Reply #57 |
63. Yep |
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MindPilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 06:01 PM Response to Reply #57 |
72. I dunno, California has some pretty tough consumer protection laws |
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yorgatron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 04:54 PM Response to Reply #38 |
52. here's a cut&paste from the official website. |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 04:59 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. .... |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 05:18 PM Response to Reply #52 |
59. He didn't qualify for even the $3500. |
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TwixVoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 05:13 PM Response to Original message |
56. You put a car on a CREDIT CARD and call that "paid in full"? |
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MindPilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 05:38 PM Response to Reply #56 |
65. I see your point but that is not relevant to the purchase agreement |
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TwixVoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 05:41 PM Response to Reply #65 |
67. Of course the SELLER is happy |
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yorgatron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 05:42 PM Response to Reply #65 |
68. This isn't a clunker? |
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TwixVoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 05:46 PM Response to Reply #68 |
69. Jesus christ on a cross |
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yorgatron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 06:01 PM Response to Reply #69 |
71. Jesus christ on a cross,why are YOU so wound up about this? |
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TwixVoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 06:04 PM Response to Reply #71 |
73. The irresponsibility of it just blows my mind |
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MindPilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 06:13 PM Response to Reply #73 |
74. What gives you the expertise to scold people about personal finances? |
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TwixVoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 06:41 PM Response to Reply #74 |
76. No it is a BAD CHOICE people make |
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TwixVoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 07:07 PM Response to Reply #74 |
78. Anyway |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 08:24 PM Response to Reply #78 |
80. Deleted message |
RB TexLa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 09:11 PM Response to Reply #69 |
82. It goes right along with the intent of this program. For people to get out and spend money |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 06:55 PM Response to Original message |
77. The government won't cover your brother's old car. It's MPG is too high for C4C program. |
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Trekologer (445 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 07:46 PM Response to Original message |
79. As others have said, it comes down to what the paperwork says |
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Motown_Johnny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 09:06 PM Response to Original message |
81. fuck 'em, as long as he got clear title they can dream about more money |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 09:12 PM Response to Reply #81 |
83. I would doubt they handed over the title yesterday |
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