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ensho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-22-09 10:25 AM
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some time ago I recc. buying stock in pipe companies - re:

http://www.ens-newswire.com/ens/aug2009/2009-08-21-091.asp


U.S. State Department OKs Pipeline From Canada's Oil Sands


The U.S. State Department has issued a permit for a multibillion-dollar pipeline to carry crude oil from Canadian oil sands to refineries south of the border, triggering a court challenge from environmental and native groups.

On Thursday, the State Department issued a Presidential Permit to Enbridge Energy, Ltd. for the Alberta Clipper - a 1,000-mile/1,607-kilometer crude oil pipeline that will run between Hardisty, Alberta, and Superior, Wisconsin.

With supply of crude oil from Western Canada oil sands developments expected to grow by as much as 1.8 million barrels per day by 2015, the industry has asked for more capacity out of the oil sands and into the U.S. Midwest markets.

In evaluating the Enbridge application, the State Department said in a statement, officials worked in consultation with "all relevant agencies and parties and with extensive public and stakeholder participation and outreach" and conducted an environmental review of the proposed project.

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But an international coalition of environmental and Native American groups said the pipeline would carry "the dirtiest oil on Earth" and vowed to challenge it in court.

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The environmental and native groups point out that "Tar sands development in Alberta is creating an environmental catastrophe, with toxic tailings ponds so large they can be seen from space and plans to strip away the forests and peat lands in an area the size of Florida."

"In addition," they argue, "greenhouse gas emissions from tar sands production are three times that of conventional crude oil and it contains 11 times more sulfur and nickel, six times more nitrogen and five times more lead than conventional oil. These toxins are released into the U.S. air and water when the crude oil is processed into fuels by refineries."
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however,

I stand with the Native Americans and environmental groups against this.

and I don't believe it has to be done for " the strategic interests of the United States." its being done to fill Baron's pockets with more money.
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-22-09 10:28 AM
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1. dont stand against this, the US'll bomb the shit out of you
fwiw, I too stand with the Natives and Environmentalists.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-22-09 10:31 AM
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2. You also might consider investing in Canadian enviro remediation companies
Tar residue is not impossible to remediate, but it takes specialized expertise.
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ensho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-22-09 10:34 AM
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3. never - I love our earth too much
nt
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-22-09 10:56 AM
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6. You love it so much that you're going to leave it polluted? Interesting contradiction.
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ensho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-22-09 11:11 AM
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7. I don't think it is remediable
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-22-09 11:23 AM
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8. You're wrong.
Not to say that we should encourage irresponsible behavior, but it is quite savable.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-22-09 10:34 AM
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4. hookah pipes?
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ensho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-22-09 10:40 AM
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5. pipes of all kinds, from hookah to sewage to water, etc.


:)
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