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annm4peace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 09:32 AM Original message |
Eighteen Year Old Boy Dies After Jail House Beating by Sheriff’s Deputies |
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ingac70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 09:36 AM Response to Original message |
1. ... |
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barbtries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 04:46 PM Response to Reply #1 |
37. that was a sad read |
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liberalmuse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 09:37 AM Response to Original message |
2. Of course this is all Obama's fault. |
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Curtland1015 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 09:42 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Yeah, how is this Obama's fault again? |
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Mystayya (324 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 09:42 AM Response to Original message |
3. This is why most jails video tape everything- especially during intake. |
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FreakinDJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 09:57 AM Response to Reply #3 |
9. I'm sure the cell was out of sight to cameras |
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kath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 01:20 PM Response to Reply #9 |
19. Here in the Oklahoma County Jail, they apparently like to use the elevator for beating people to |
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mudplanet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-23-09 06:20 PM Response to Reply #19 |
63. The elevator is the prefered venue for the Houston Police Dept. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 09:50 AM Response to Reply #9 |
86. Hell, they just turn it off... beat someone's ass... then turn it back on. |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 09:43 AM Response to Original message |
5. Tragic choices had tragic consequences. |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 09:48 AM Response to Reply #5 |
7. Yes, who would imagine the decision to enter law enforcement would end in murder? |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 02:51 PM Response to Reply #7 |
20. Yes and who would have thought that drunk driving and resisting arrest would end badly. |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-23-09 03:37 PM Response to Reply #20 |
49. So that excuses this kind of behavior? |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-23-09 03:41 PM Response to Reply #49 |
52. Good thing there is no evidence the police beat him to death. Otherwise you might have a point. |
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mudplanet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-23-09 06:23 PM Response to Reply #52 |
65. No evidence doesn't mean no crime, and |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-23-09 06:29 PM Response to Reply #65 |
69. When did I say the officers had nothing to do with it? |
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Zix (881 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-23-09 04:25 PM Response to Reply #20 |
56. Drunk driving and resisting arrest is not a sufficiently serious crime |
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mudplanet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-23-09 06:24 PM Response to Reply #56 |
66. There are NO sufficiently serious crimes to explain |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-23-09 06:30 PM Response to Reply #66 |
70. Fascist who accuse people of summary execution without any evidence. |
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Seldona (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 10:10 AM Response to Reply #20 |
89. Of course! |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 11:43 AM Response to Reply #89 |
93. It really helps if you are honest when you portray what someone said. |
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blueamy66 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 04:41 PM Response to Reply #7 |
36. . |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 10:55 AM Response to Reply #5 |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 02:55 PM Response to Reply #15 |
24. Sorry to disappoint but cops have Constitutional Rights, just like the rest of us. |
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timtom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-23-09 04:11 AM Response to Reply #24 |
41. And they abuse those rights |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-23-09 03:34 PM Response to Reply #41 |
47. Why would they abuse their own Constitutional rights? |
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timtom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-23-09 04:41 PM Response to Reply #47 |
58. They abuse others' constitutional rights. |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-23-09 06:16 PM Response to Reply #58 |
61. A very few of the 800,000 LEO's nationwide commit crimes. |
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mudplanet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-23-09 06:26 PM Response to Reply #61 |
67. True. Most cops are not sadistic bullies. But too many are. Shouldn't |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-23-09 06:35 PM Response to Reply #67 |
71. If you could get a state legislature to pass it. |
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timtom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-23-09 08:42 PM Response to Reply #61 |
77. Ok. Ok. I'm the "told-off-kid" |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-23-09 08:54 PM Response to Reply #77 |
78. You seem pretty fair minded to me. |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-23-09 04:54 PM Response to Reply #47 |
59. They swear to uphold THE Constitution of the United States, not THEIR Constition. |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-23-09 06:15 PM Response to Reply #59 |
60. They do have Constitutional rights. That is the "their" that I was referring too. |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-23-09 07:41 PM Response to Reply #60 |
73. But some refuse to acknowledge that even the alleged criminal has those same rights. |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-23-09 08:21 PM Response to Reply #73 |
74. You'll have to point out where I said that. |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 01:01 AM Response to Reply #73 |
82. Is parlegal a golf term? |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 09:33 AM Response to Reply #82 |
84. You're precious. Really. nt |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 09:53 AM Response to Reply #84 |
88. Well, that's one word for him and the one person agreeing with him. |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 11:22 AM Response to Reply #84 |
92. Come on that was funny. Everyone makes typos. |
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Ikonoklast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-23-09 12:56 PM Response to Reply #5 |
46. Yes. I bet those deputies are sorry now. |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-23-09 03:40 PM Response to Reply #46 |
51. Bedwetting aside there is no evidence the police murdered the young man. |
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T Wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 09:46 AM Response to Original message |
6. Sure-money bet - the pigs will suffer NO consequences for their actions. Do they EVER? |
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Heidi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 09:49 AM Response to Original message |
8. With all due respect, this isn't journalism. It's news shaped by opinion, and the source |
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yahawaha (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 10:00 AM Response to Original message |
10. stupid question |
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Curtland1015 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 10:06 AM Response to Reply #10 |
11. Woah, woah, woah... if I took cops on a high speed chase, caused an accident... |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 04:03 PM Response to Reply #10 |
28. That's just idiotic. |
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tkmorris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-23-09 02:34 AM Response to Reply #28 |
40. Umm, duh. Yes of course they would. |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-23-09 03:36 PM Response to Reply #40 |
48. That's hysterical. Bedwetting aside the ME and the TBI wouldn't conceal evidence of a murder of a.. |
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mudplanet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-23-09 06:28 PM Response to Reply #28 |
68. Kinda depends on who the ME is. The ME in Harrison County |
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Strong Atheist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-23-09 10:22 AM Response to Reply #10 |
44. Welcome to DU! |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 10:07 AM Response to Original message |
12. At 18, isn't a male technically a man rather than a boy? |
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FreakinDJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 10:25 AM Response to Reply #12 |
13. Does that make him any less Dead ? |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 10:50 AM Response to Reply #13 |
14. I didn't say it did, or anything similar |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 02:52 PM Response to Reply #13 |
21. Does capitalizing dead make him any more so? |
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Iggo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 11:00 AM Response to Original message |
16. Yay, Cops! |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 02:53 PM Response to Reply #16 |
22. Yay drunk drivers. |
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Iggo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 04:04 PM Response to Reply #22 |
29. Poor little coppers. |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 04:06 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. If there was only evidence of that, you might have a point. |
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Zix (881 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-23-09 04:15 PM Response to Reply #30 |
55. There is evidence. |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-23-09 06:22 PM Response to Reply #55 |
64. If the autopsy showed any signs of a beating I'm sure charges would be coming. |
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chatnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 12:19 PM Response to Original message |
17. Wow, and the autopsy supposedly says he was not beaten |
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Curtland1015 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 12:26 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. To be fair, it says it wasn't the cause of his death, not that he wasn't beaten. |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 02:54 PM Response to Reply #18 |
23. Where is the evidence that anyone was beaten? |
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Curtland1015 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 02:59 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. I was just taking this part of the article... |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 03:01 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. I agree, the injuries are likely just from being handcuffed while resisting. |
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WonderGrunion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-23-09 06:42 AM Response to Reply #25 |
42. They may also be consistent with the accident that stopped the chase |
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chatnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 03:51 PM Response to Reply #18 |
27. Thanks, I typed it out too fast and too late to edit |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 04:13 PM Response to Original message |
31. It's just s few bad apples ...right? |
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nini (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 04:20 PM Response to Original message |
32. I have to question blaming Bush or Obama for local police activities |
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DU GrovelBot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 04:20 PM Response to Original message |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-25-09 03:46 PM Response to Reply #33 |
97. Grovelbot continues to be crass... |
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arcadian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 04:21 PM Response to Original message |
34. They should be charged with murder. |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-23-09 01:10 AM Response to Reply #34 |
38. Based on? |
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TXRAT2 (103 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-23-09 07:58 AM Response to Reply #38 |
43. Based on no evidence what so ever from what I can tell. |
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arcadian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 03:15 PM Response to Reply #38 |
95. You're username betrays you. |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-25-09 03:35 PM Response to Reply #95 |
96. I'm am biased. I prefer facts instead of speculation. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 04:38 PM Response to Original message |
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subcomhd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-23-09 01:12 AM Response to Original message |
39. jeebus! |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-23-09 12:10 PM Response to Original message |
45. Recommend, because this kind of murder by cops has to stop. |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-23-09 03:39 PM Response to Reply #45 |
50. If the evidence pointed to that I'm sure there would be an arrest. |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-23-09 03:47 PM Response to Reply #50 |
53. If you think that, you're delusional. |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-23-09 06:18 PM Response to Reply #53 |
62. So LEO's are never arrested for murder or assault on citizens in police custody? That is laughable. |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 12:42 AM Response to Reply #62 |
79. LEOs are ALMOST NEVER arrested for murders and assaults they commit. |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 12:51 AM Response to Reply #79 |
80. Your paranoid delusions aside, there is no evidence to back up your claims. |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 12:56 AM Response to Reply #80 |
81. It's reality that you can't accept. They often commit such crimes that go unprosecuted. |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 01:08 AM Response to Reply #81 |
83. When I see empirical evidence of your "reality" I'll gladly condemn it. |
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melman (233 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 10:52 AM Response to Reply #83 |
91. Fire Medics |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-23-09 03:52 PM Response to Original message |
54. I'm going to say, somewhat ironically, that this might have been a good situation for a tazer |
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aint_no_life_nowhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-23-09 04:32 PM Response to Original message |
57. Reminds me of the murder-torture of Charles Oatman |
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Interloper (102 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-23-09 06:44 PM Response to Original message |
72. He died in the care of the Hospital |
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LAGC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-23-09 08:34 PM Response to Original message |
75. Not to make light of the topic, but what kind of mother names her kid Octavius? |
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NoodleyAppendage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 11:53 AM Response to Reply #75 |
94. Especially weird to give an African-American such an Anglophilic name. n/t |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-23-09 08:38 PM Response to Original message |
76. It's only a few bad apples ...yea right! |
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Butch350 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 09:47 AM Response to Original message |
85. It's more your fault than Obama's. |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 09:51 AM Response to Original message |
87. What journalism stylebook refers to an 18 year old as a 'boy?' |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 10:13 AM Response to Original message |
90. Hopefully they'll be found guilty & put in prison where they'll find out just how tough they're not |
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