Why is the battle for greed winning over the battle for USA?

[sicksicksick_N_tired]

How can there be a united states of american citizens if only handful hold power over everything we learn, read, see,...the laws by which we must abide?

I swear,...it's like this whole nation has turned into a century old coal-mining town where,...us common folks are given the means merely to give back to the company that pays for our labors and takes all the money OUTSIDE our own resources. Oh,...*shrug*,...I forgot that, those companies still do that to this day: steal the labor, TAKE AND PROFIT off the resources. They don't just STEAL from Africa,...they do it here, too!!!! (which is why they SWEAR they do NOT discriminate *lol*).

Now, it is worse. Since we demanded equal pay for work, the corporations turned to other slave-labor-willing nations, leaving us and our nation behind. When are these corporations going to be expected to "sacrifice" as we do for our nation?

Why aren't these corporations called, "traitors" and destroyed for "treason"?

Why?

[RandomThoughts]

1. Which part of the corporate structure do you want to call them traitors?

Do you want Corporate PR to call them traitors?

Do you want some politicians paid large sums of corporate money traitors?

Do you want some media paid and hired by corporate system to call them traitors?

Would you hear it if people did call them traitors?

And on a larger point, they do not think in terms of nations. The corporate system, even within its charity and when they do things to help people is the feudal system. Control is at the top, a few nobles can pick who is at that top, and the serfs do the work. At no time do the serfs get a say in the feudal system, but they are told they might be a noble one day if they follow the feudal system. Its not anything new. And it does not have nations it has serfs, either in America or Asia, or Europe or anywhere else.

It has a few that want to set the rules. Many times, as in the feudal system they claim divine right, 'the family' does that exact thing, it allows them to claim to be god so they can then make the claim it is for them to pass out the blessings of money to people that support them. It also allows them to not face any feelings of guilt about people suffering while they accumulate power.

There are many good people that are rich, and many of them believe in a representative system not a system where money picks what happens. Its not a money system for many people. And things like breaking up monopolies, and competition and regulations go against money for the good of many people, and is supported by many people.



Personally I think many people in the corporate system are really good people, although some of them have been put in a trap by money. They are obligated by the charter of the system to first and foremost defend profit, so when they want to do good, or even want to avoid bad, that charter can step up and confront them.

And since money or profit does not have a moral component, alot of things like deception and corruption get added in, since those things can defends profit. If profit comes first and morale obligation second, then morals mean nothing. If morals come first and money second, then money means nothing. When you make a choice you serve one or the other.

For me it is not about money, although I desire to have money, but money kept asking me to be mean, or to be deceptive, and I do not want to be those things. Maybe some day I will have money, but money will never have me. And that is a very peaceful and freeing thought.

[Double T]

2. The criminal corporations are backed and supported by our own corrupt government;..........

do nothing congress, corporatist WH and a wall street ass kissing scotus; wealthy political elitists supporting wealthy corporate criminals. Be certain, the 'recession' may be ending, but it will immediately be followed by the GREATEST DEPRESSION. The united states of GREED will never be able to pull out of THIS economic death spiral.

[SoCalDem]

3. Corrupt, inept media + rich lobbyists + greedy politicians = disastrous government

:(

[snake in the grass]

8. Don't forget our piss-poor education system.

The latest news out of Texas with their plan to rewrite history in their new textbooks is just a further example. It's sickening what is allowed to go on in this country. Idiocracy appears to be more than an entertaining movie; it's prophetic.

[andym]

4. Aftershocks of Reagan...

American individualism redefined as selfishness. Ayn Rand would be happy.

[Ozymanithrax]

5. US Constitution Article III Section 3

Section 3. Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort. No person shall be convicted of treason unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession in open court.


The Congress shall have power to declare the punishment of treason, but no attainder of treason shall work corruption of blood, or forfeiture except during the life of the person attainted.

(1) No corporation fits that description, that would include Blackwater, Xe, or whatever name they are going by.

(2) Corporations are not living beings, and therefore are not subject to capital punishment. Their corporate officers, investors, and employees are human (I assume). But putting them all to death would be unconscionable.

Would you just put the CEO's against the wall, the boards of directors, investors, or everyone involved.

[guruoo]

6. What? Corporations are not living beings?

That's not what they say....
'Proponents of corporate personhood believe that corporations, as representatives of their shareholders,
were intended by the founders and framers to enjoy many, if not all, of the same rights as natural persons,
for example, the right against self-incrimination, right to privacy and the right to lobby the government.'

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate_personhood_debate

[Harry Pierce]

7. One would think

based on actions of generations past, especially during the Great Depression - where at least we were told everyone helped each other out during the hard times and there was a bonding of people concerned over each others welfare, that maybe the same sort of social interaction would repeat itself in the present state of affairs, but I don't see it.

Maybe I'm missing something, I just don't see it. Perhaps this is what Democracy has evolved to in our lifetimes. I think it is disturbing.

[Curtland1015]

9. Money was around long before the USA existed.

It'll be around long after it's gone.

[RagAss]

10. Greed is the nature of man(ie: the will of "God"). The USA is a concept.

Nature beats Concept every time.

[Tripper11]

11. 1 name - Gordon Gecko - says it all.

"The point is, ladies and gentleman, that greed, for lack of a better word, is good. Greed is right, greed works. Greed clarifies, cuts through, and captures the essence of the evolutionary spirit. Greed, in all of its forms; greed for life, for money, for love, knowledge has marked the upward surge of mankind. And greed, you mark my words, will not only save Teldar Paper, but that other malfunctioning corporation called the USA. Thank you very much."

Wall Street 1987

[seabeyond]

12. it is a societal mindset we have adopted last couple decades.

it does not only effect this area, but all areas of our society. expectation of fellowman is the very lowest. it feeds off of all things.

[WestSeattle2]

13. Because the watchdogs sold out long ago? n/t

[NC_Nurse]

14. They have the time and the money to make sure they're heard. The rest of us

have to WORK and SAVE so we don't end up falling into poverty.

Sucks, don't it?