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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-19-09 11:41 AM
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Dr. Conrad Murray, Personal Physician for Michael Jackson, Will Reportedly Faces Manslaughter Charge
Dr. Conrad Murray, Personal Physician for Michael Jackson, Will Reportedly Faces Manslaughter Charges

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/08/19/entertainment/michaeljackson/main5252016.shtml



(CBS) Michael Jackson's personal doctor will be charged with manslaughter in the late singer's death, according to FOXNews.com.

Dr. Conrad Murray will be arrested within two weeks - and possibly as soon as next Wednesday - according to the report, which cites an anonymous law enforcement source.

Investigators will likely execute another search warrant - possibly at a Los Angeles pharmacy - the report says, as they try to build a case that Murray's treatments led to the pop star's death in June.

Murray reportedly gave the entertainer the powerful anesthetic propofol to help him sleep hours before his death.
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-19-09 11:45 AM
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1. ...and that is as it should be. n/t
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Howardx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-19-09 12:04 PM
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2. as long as the junkie who hired murray
doesnt get blamed eh?
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ezgoingrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-19-09 12:44 PM
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3. The difference is the junkie who hired Murray has a mental health issue.
Dr. Murry as a health professional should NOT under any circumstances for ANYONE hook them up to anesthesia in their bedroom and by doing so he is responsible for Michael Jackson's death. He should be held responsible because not every addict who talks a physician into giving them drugs is famous and doctors of all shapes and sizes need to be aware that if they enable a drug addicted person who is unable to help themselves and that person dies then they will be held accountable.
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-19-09 01:26 PM
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4. Exactly - these 'feel-good' Hollywood quacks need to be stopped.
Edited on Wed Aug-19-09 01:29 PM by Triana
OTHER docs told MJ "NO" and there's no reason Murray could not have too - except that he needed/wanted the MONEY.

They're called "enablers" in addiction-speak - and as someone with addicts in my family - we were taught by every treatment/intervention method there is - NOT to enable an addict - and this PARTICULARLY applies to doctors.

Murray is GUILTY - not only of enabling an addict - but subsequently of gross negligence in patient treatment - administering a drug that is ONLY meant to be used in a surgical setting with monitoring equipment - NONE of which was present in MJ's home - and then worse - leaving MJ alone after administering this lethal drug - without even a doctor to monitor him much less the proper equipment.

He's a quack, and MJ would be alive and happily performing his O2 shows if it weren't for Murray.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-19-09 01:31 PM
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5. Because someone has to hang for Michael Jackson's inability to stop killing himself.
MJ surrounded himself with people who couldn't say "NO" to him. He's been destroying himself the past 20 years in excess, and the end result was predictably death. Drug addicts die from their addiction, sooner or later, unless they decide to make it stop and take action to make it stop.

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cbdo2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-19-09 01:39 PM
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7. It's true there are many enablers out there...but they typically aren't the ones personally
adminstering the drug. The doc here was the drug dealer and the drug giver when his addict happened to die, so he inadvertently killed him. Hello Jail!
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-19-09 01:56 PM
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8. Bingo. n/t
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-19-09 02:14 PM
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9. An addict like MJ doesn't allow anyone around him who isn't an enabler.
I don't disagree that this doctor gave MJ what he wanted, and likely did so because the doctor was enamored with Jackson's wealth and fame. But manslaughter? It's a reach, a bone to throw to MJ's loyalists. If the Doc gets decent representation, he'll beat it.

beat it, beat it
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cbdo2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-19-09 02:21 PM
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11. Nah, he's a Smooth Criminal (ok, sorry) - it's manslaughter not murder.
Manslaughter is killing someone through your own recklessness on accident...that's exactly what happened here. The doc was an accomplice and doing something illegal, dude ended up dying for it, it's about the easiest manslaughter case anyone's ever seen. He gave him fever like he's never, ever known! (sorry, another lame attempt at MJ humor)
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-19-09 02:51 PM
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12. You've been touched by ... a smooth criminal.
The cover was better than the original by MJ.

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Liquorice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-19-09 02:17 PM
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10. I agree. The doctor was clearly breaking the law, which led to Jackson's death. nt
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-19-09 03:34 PM
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17. Exactly. nt
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-19-09 01:35 PM
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6. dupe
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-19-09 03:11 PM
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13. Who's paying for his defense and protection?
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-19-09 03:14 PM
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14. if he gave Jackson anesthesia then he needs to be charged with something
at least for that alone.

and it sounds like Jackson's doctors have been doing this for a long time.

can you imagine, a doctor at your home to administer anesthesia for regular sleep? :wtf:

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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-19-09 03:29 PM
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15. Actually I'm one of the few that don't believe that. nt
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-19-09 03:31 PM
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16. WTF indeed.
NO doctor of any ethical standing would say 'yes' to that or do that. They would say "NO" (or not NO but HELL no - because it's too dangerous), and offer some other type of assistance for sleep.

IMO all of them ought to be 'relieved' of their licenses - whomever of them did that with him (or who does such things to anyone else).
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-19-09 03:52 PM
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20. i don't see where a really terrific doctor would ever want to or agree to serve one patient
exclusively.

i could see perhaps for a president for a really limited period of time.

but exclusive service to one celebrity? why would any doctor who really cared about their work do this and further why would they do this when it seems to be mainly as a vehicle for getting prescription medication.
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-19-09 04:05 PM
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21. "mainly as a vehicle for getting prescription medication."
Yep. You'd think Murray might have surmised that. I don't think he gave a flip, really. He badly needed the money and this was his ticket out of financial ruin - that was his motive - NOT doing what's best for his patient(s).
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-19-09 03:36 PM
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18. MJ must have wanted to go into a really deep sleep, a sleep with no dreams. NO, I can't imagine
a doctor administering anesthesia for regular sleep. Anesthesia for surgery requires a special list (the anesthesiologist) to monitor and make sure you WAKE UP! Definitely not a do it yourself - at home thing to do.
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-19-09 04:07 PM
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22. ABSOLUTELY not a 'do it at home' thing...
...most doctors told MJ "NO" - the ethical ones. That left only the unethical ones for him to turn to. Had THEY also said "NO" as they should have, MJ would have had to either face his issue or find other methods. But NO doctor should have been enabling this. NO way.

That drug is NOT meant to be used for that purpose or in that setting. That any doctor worth a plug nickel would even consider it is beyond me (well except for the money).
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-19-09 03:38 PM
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19. This makes me so angry.
:(
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-19-09 04:13 PM
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23. Dr. Murray may be been loved by some of his patients
but the rest of his life impacted the decisions he made. It looks like he took the job with Jackson out of desperation.
http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/MichaelJackson/story?page=1&id=8210705

<snip>
In the wake of the investigation, a slew of liens and lawsuits against Murray has emerged. In the last three years, Murray has faced lawsuits for unpaid business bills totaling over $700,000, including rent on his medical offices. He also owes more than $13,000 in child support, $70,000 to a business partner with whom he launched an energy drink called Pitbull, and he failed to pay more than $71,000 worth of student loans from medical school.
<snip>
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-19-09 06:20 PM
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24. He was also charged with domestic violence ...
Edited on Wed Aug-19-09 06:22 PM by Triana
If I was a patient of his, - after the way he "treated" Michael Jackson and knowing his actions / inactions surrounding that incident of extreme selfishness and negligence (not to mention outright dishonesty) - I'd be finding myself another doctor STAT.
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Faryn Balyncd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-19-09 10:21 PM
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25. with 6 children by 5 women, only one of whom sued for child support
Edited on Wed Aug-19-09 10:25 PM by Faryn Balyncd
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-19-09 10:31 PM
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27. Jeeeze. He just gets better and better doesn't he?
Piece of work, this one. This guys seems - judging by his background + his actions in essentially killing Michael, like a real dirtbag.

OTOH - I noticed this "Murray to be charged with manslaughter" story is reported mostly online by Fox "News" - so I wonder the validity of it - though I think Murray SHOULD be charged, the DA is saying the story isn't true.

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Faryn Balyncd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-19-09 10:29 PM
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26. Dr. Murray is the poster boy for non-public, all-private, fee for service medicine
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-19-09 10:32 PM
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28. highly paid dope pusher, in this case. n/t
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