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Orwellian_Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 06:49 AM Original message |
Obama on Afghanistan: "this is not a war of choice, this is a war of necessity" |
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hobbit709 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 06:56 AM Response to Original message |
1. I guess Unocal still wants their pipeline. |
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biermeister (425 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-20-09 07:20 AM Response to Reply #1 |
65. and the junkies still want their dope |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 06:57 AM Response to Original message |
2. "protecting Americans from terrorism" = huge lie |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 07:02 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Sad to hear it from this president. Looks like the MIC has him by the balls. nt |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 06:57 AM Response to Original message |
3. I disagree - imo it is a war of choice. Terrorists should be handled... |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 07:04 AM Response to Original message |
5. No, Mr. Obama, you are incorrect, and sadly |
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VWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 07:51 AM Response to Reply #5 |
9. Afghanistan: Where empires go to die n/t |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 07:06 AM Response to Original message |
6. completely consistent |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 08:26 AM Response to Reply #6 |
12. Consistency... |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 08:31 AM Response to Reply #12 |
14. Saying one thing and doing another is a sign of intelligence? |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-20-09 01:43 AM Response to Reply #12 |
60. actually, |
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excess_3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 07:17 AM Response to Original message |
7. Same |
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laststeamtrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 07:51 AM Response to Original message |
8. K & R - I thought this was an interesting take on the VFW speech by a speech writer |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 10:03 PM Response to Reply #8 |
55. Obana's appointing Holbrooke made my heart sink. |
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Balbus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 08:17 AM Response to Original message |
10. So, in other words, "We're fighting them over there so we don't have to fight them here..." |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 08:22 AM Response to Original message |
11. knr!~ |
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SIMPLYB1980 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 08:29 AM Response to Original message |
13. He is correct on this. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 08:33 AM Response to Reply #13 |
15. No flames from me. |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 09:15 AM Response to Reply #15 |
25. You think we can 'win' in Afghanistan, and you're calling ME 'naive'? |
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PVnRT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 09:56 AM Response to Reply #15 |
32. "Naive Pacifists" |
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Political Heretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 08:36 AM Response to Reply #13 |
17. No flames, however I disagree that he is correct on this, and I have a lot of supporting evidence |
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glitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 09:54 AM Response to Reply #13 |
30. Military Industrial is the only thriving sector in the economy so perhaps in that respect yes. |
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TheWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 10:32 PM Response to Reply #13 |
58. Then ENLIST and go fight in it. |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-20-09 01:55 AM Response to Reply #13 |
61. Obama's WRONG on this one TOO! FUCK OBAMA - he sounds JUST LIKE BUSH!!! |
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Political Heretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 08:35 AM Response to Original message |
16. Obama is either tragically misguided or lying. Honestly, I believe the former in this case. |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 08:42 AM Response to Reply #16 |
20. This may be cynical, but I think the surge in Afghanistan is mainly political cover to leave Iraq |
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Political Heretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 08:53 AM Response to Reply #20 |
21. That's not cynical - that's criminal. |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 09:00 AM Response to Reply #21 |
22. Uh, no, it's not |
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Political Heretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 09:33 AM Response to Reply #22 |
28. Um, yes. It is. You don't kill soldiers to boost your own poll numbers. |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 10:06 AM Response to Reply #28 |
34. I think you are misunderstanding. The election I'm talking about is the one in Afghanistan... |
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Political Heretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 12:38 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. You're right! I did misunderstand. I'm very sorry! So early for me here.... |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 03:04 PM Response to Reply #36 |
44. It's such a pleasant surprise on DU when misunderstandings can be cleared up! |
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Orwellian_Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 01:59 PM Response to Reply #34 |
37. So you're supporting fake elections run by the US and NATO? |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 02:30 PM Response to Reply #37 |
40. Your posts are laughably simple-minded. It's like arguing with a three year old over a toy. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 03:45 PM Response to Reply #40 |
47. All stabilizations are not equal. Fake elections do no promote |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 03:50 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. True. It didn't work in Cambodia. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 04:00 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. I'll call them fake elections. |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 04:14 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. Dostum is untouchable |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 04:31 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. Yes, that's Dostum. I agree. And so bringing him into this election |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 05:10 PM Response to Reply #51 |
54. I think I diverge from some of DU's self-proclaimed radicals at this juncture |
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wuvuj (874 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 09:07 AM Response to Reply #16 |
24. US police and military... |
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lewismo (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 08:38 AM Response to Original message |
18. re: |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 08:38 AM Response to Original message |
19. No, it's still a war of choice. |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 02:45 PM Response to Reply #19 |
42. 'Political Necessity'?? |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 03:17 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. Agreed. |
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wuvuj (874 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 09:04 AM Response to Original message |
23. Fits in with his... |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 09:23 AM Response to Original message |
26. It's war of CYA political necessity to show that he's "tough on terror". |
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RUMMYisFROSTED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 09:27 AM Response to Original message |
27. I agree. For the MIC. |
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glitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 09:56 AM Response to Reply #27 |
31. You beat me. :)- nt |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 09:47 AM Response to Original message |
29. Wrong! |
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DU GrovelBot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 09:56 AM Response to Original message |
33. ## PLEASE DONATE TO DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND! ## |
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piratefish08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 10:09 AM Response to Original message |
35. "noting that the war in Afghanistan is crucial in protecting Americans from terrorism." |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 02:40 PM Response to Reply #35 |
41. Korea, Bay of Pigs, Vietnam, Cambodia, Grenada, Panama, Iraq...to name a few. |
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GeorgeGist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 02:01 PM Response to Original message |
38. Childish nonsense. |
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Orwellian_Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 02:05 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. Which part? |
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bullwinkle428 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 02:55 PM Response to Original message |
43. Rory Stewart was interviewed on NPR's "On Point" show this morning. He |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 03:23 PM Response to Original message |
46. And the empire staggers on. Look what our tax dollars are paying for. |
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MISSDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 04:40 PM Response to Original message |
52. No more war. |
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Mari333 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 04:45 PM Response to Original message |
53. hes going to lose next time. |
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TheWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 10:36 PM Response to Reply #53 |
59. And we will trade one Abusive Spouse for one that is more Abusive. |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 10:16 PM Response to Original message |
56. One question. |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 10:24 PM Response to Original message |
57. I listened to excerpts of Obama's speech to the VFW yesterday on NPR. |
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galileoreloaded (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-20-09 01:57 AM Response to Original message |
62. All wars are resource driven......drill it down..........n/t |
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JCMach1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-20-09 04:44 AM Response to Original message |
63. So, was that the Taliban, Al Qaeda, or the insurgency that we are 'fighting' against? |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-20-09 07:12 AM Response to Original message |
64. Necessary for... what? |
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