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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 04:49 PM
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Gawker perfectly analyzes right-wing looney who shouted 'Heil Hitler' at Israeli in Vegas town hall
http://feeds.gawker.com/~r/gawker/full/~3/feHS1XVo4UY/town-hall-wingnuts-go-through-the-ideological-rabbit-hole



Unalloyed xenophobic rage presents a challenge similar to one posed by habitual lying—just as it's hard to keep up with one's own falsehoods, it's difficult to remember whether shouting "Heil Hitler!" at a Jew is good or bad.

Take, for instance, this woman at a healthcare town hall sponsored by a Las Vegas radio station. After watching an Israeli immigrant to the United States praise his homeland's government-run healthcare system, she is moved to respond, "Heil Hitler!"


What does that mean? Well, it could mean "Heil Hitler, you Jew, you are a subhuman blood-sucker," a sentiment common to right-wing extremists who actively seek the violent overthrow of the federal government. Or it could mean, "By supporting government-run healthcare, sir, you may as well be shouting 'Heil Hitler,' because you are supporting Barack Obama, who is a Nazi"—a sentiment also common to right-wing extremists who actively seek the violent overthrow of the federal government. You see the problem? The feverish, paranoid snake that is contemporary right-wing political thought has begun to eat its own tail, and the swamp is full of anti-Semites and Nazi-haters who both seek the same thing—a return to the "real America."

As you can see from the look of terror that crosses this woman's face when the Israeli challenges her—"I'm a Jew! You're telling me, ‘Heil Hitler'? Shame of you!"—she appears to have briefly forgotten which one she is. In the most cosmic of ironies, she is wearing an Israeli Defense Forces t-shirt, so it's not likely that she's a rabid neo-Nazi. Still, you can see in her eyes that she is frantically checking an exhaustive catalog of political outrages in the back of her mind—which is worse, supporting healthcare reform, or calling yelling "Heil Hitler" at a Jew?

She quickly decides that it's the former, and tells the Israeli that, as a Jew, he should be more frightened than anyone of Obama's policies. It's about as comprehensive a tangle of our current political dynamic as we've seen—a middle-aged white woman who seems to believe that Jews are good to the extent that Israel is good because Israel kills Arabs but bad to the extent that one of them supports socialized medicine shouts "Heil Hitler" at an Israeli because Hitler was bad to the extent that he was like Obama but was also good to the extent that he was against Communist Jews. It's taxing to remember where the political lines are drawn when the only thing you care about is hating the president.

And it's like a comment thread on Red State brought to life. The woman here had probably written "Heil Hitler" into dozens of comment forms during her long, lonely nights of rage, and she clearly was shocked when she realized she'd said it in real life. "Heil Hitler!" "Let's bring an assault rifle to the next town hall!" It's a reverse TRON, and the trolls have escaped into our world.

After she tells the Israeli that he should be more afraid than anyone else of nationalized healthcare—because, just like in Israel, it's an anti-Semitic plot—she mocks him with a caustic "boo-hoo" because he complained about an $8,000 trip to the emergency room without healthcare. Jews are so cheap!

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Gold Metal Flake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 04:59 PM
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1. What an awful person.
Knee-jerk hate. The neurotic cast-offs of a society in decline.
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dmr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 05:32 PM
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12. Agree, it's knee-jerk hate. What's that old saying? Think before you speak. How about
some good old fashion thinking?

Some analytic skills would help too, but guess that's too much to ask.

This summer is wearing me out, but I won't give up, be silent, and let the hate of the tyrannical backwash run roughshod to be the spokespeople of my country.

:mad: :nuke:

:kick:
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 05:05 PM
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2. I'm not sure that kind of stupidity deserves that level of analysis.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 05:12 PM
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5. +1
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BlancheSplanchnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 05:21 PM
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11. heh heh --- I did love it, though.
It sure was good. But then, I love to analyze discourse. :) Long Live Erving Goffman!!
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theothersnippywshrub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 05:08 PM
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3. How very republican. n/t
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 05:11 PM
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4. what a great analysis of that sick fuckwad and her cohorts
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 05:12 PM
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6. Teh stoopid
it burns.
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 05:17 PM
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8. OT - but it's been driving me crazy -
Can you tell me the origin of that line?

It's so funny, and I just want to know where it came from.

Thanks.............. :hi:
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 05:43 PM
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13. IIRC, it goes back to the old gopher boards. n/t
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 05:45 PM
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15. What were
"gopher boards"?

And thanks..........
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 05:49 PM
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16. LOL, it was actually a client used back in the Usenet days
We used the gopher client for accessing the old USenet boards way back when. So a group of us always called Usenet the "gopher boards".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 05:52 PM
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17. Whoa -
so far over my head, but thank you so much.

I didn't realize how old that term is, but, damn, it breaks me up every time I see it.

Thanks again................
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 05:16 PM
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7. I hope
someone finds out who that woman is. Her name, her address, her credit history, the results of her last Pap smear, everything.

That's the kind of sow who needs to be outed and made to stand in the white-hot spotlight she so obviously craves.

I mean, if she's brave enough to shout "Heil Hitler" to an Israeli Jew who's being interviewed by someone - note that she was not part of the interview - then, clearly, she wants publicity.

I say give it to her.

Fucking waste of life..........................
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 05:17 PM
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9. Scum of the earth. This needs to go viral...Worldwide !!!!!
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 05:44 PM
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14. That's how you deal with these
lunatics.

I also suspect that many of them are actually paid for this crap.
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 05:55 PM
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18. Did you see that video?
That woman was just the most disgusting thing imaginable.

Can you even ..... I mean, words fail me. The idea of a spectator witnessing an interview and feeling free to shout out "Heil Hitler" at a Jew .......... I have no words.

What is going on here, sis?

The hate seems to be oozing out of the worst parts of our country and adjusting to life above ground. It scares me............................
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 06:03 PM
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19. Yep I saw the video
Edited on Tue Aug-18-09 06:28 PM by malaise
There are no words for that but don't forget that Rushicans spend gazillions trying to twist and confuse concepts. You have the genuinely batshit crazy, the stupid and ignorant and those who deliberately attempt to confuse issues.

This kook is not only ignorant, but she's proud of her ignorance. That's fugging dangerous sis. In the good old days when people knew they were 'uninformed', they used to shut up. Now they want to be seen on TV.

Let them hate - they lost in November.

gr
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chollybocker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 06:26 PM
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21. Yep.
'It's like they take pride in being ignorant.'

And they LOST.

:)
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 06:30 PM
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22. Sometimes I wonder if being on TV is their only goal
Geesh!!
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 11:40 PM
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24. Check her out, sis .............
Edited on Tue Aug-18-09 11:48 PM by Tangerine LaBamba
She's batshit crazy, but she's also stupid.................

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x356238

EDIT: I just googled "Pamela Pilger," and there are all sorts of juicy things already on the Internet(s) tubes, bless those liberals!

http://gawker.com/5340436/meet-pamela-pilger-the-crazy-lady-who-yelled-heil-hitler-at-a-jewish-supporter-of-health-care-reform

LOOK!!!!!!!!

" Pamela Pilger

Las Vegas, NV

(702) 433-6674
Household: Paul, Betty"

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lib_wit_it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 12:07 PM
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27. I think that's a typo--isn't her name actually PIGler? eom
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 05:19 PM
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10. Idiots abound......
:dunce:
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Bobbie Jo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 06:12 PM
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20. What an ugly human being.
no words.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 08:03 PM
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23. "It's a reverse TRON, and the trolls have escaped into our world." nt
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 11:51 PM
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25. Simply, she is a racist.
She hates blacks, jews, and probably all dark-skinned people.



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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-19-09 07:39 AM
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26. Nice art, SR!
Great to see you back in action.

:toast:
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sweetpotato Donating Member (678 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 12:46 PM
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28. Here's another quote from this "lady"
"I don't care what they do with this health care bill. It will not pay for abortions. If somebody wants to go out and have wild sex, for the fun of it, then they can pay for the consequences. I'm not going to,"

She is clearly stating what I have thought all along.

Part of the right wing agenda is intended to PUNISH women for having sex.

What is SO WRONG about sex that WOMEN need punishing for it?
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