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Haole Girl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 05:44 PM Original message |
Um...Why was "Squeaky" Fromme released? |
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AzDar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 05:46 PM Response to Original message |
1. She served her time. Why are Bush/Cheney not in jail? |
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Haole Girl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 05:48 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. She attempted to kill a President |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 05:50 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. Life with the possibility of parole. She's been paroled. |
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Haole Girl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 05:52 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. It just... |
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pitohui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 05:59 PM Response to Reply #8 |
15. well she tried to "kill" him w.out a bullet |
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azmouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 06:20 PM Response to Reply #15 |
42. I have no feelings one or the other about Fromme's release but |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 02:49 AM Response to Reply #15 |
113. There were four rounds in the gun, she just didn't know how to chamber a round. |
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Vinnie From Indy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 06:00 PM Response to Reply #8 |
18. Oh please! |
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Haole Girl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 06:03 PM Response to Reply #18 |
22. Don't insult me personally |
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Vinnie From Indy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 06:10 PM Response to Reply #22 |
32. Sorry about the perceived insult, but you are being unfair, cruel and judgemental. |
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Haole Girl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 06:17 PM Response to Reply #32 |
38. Sorry about the perceived "cruelty" |
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Chemisse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 06:32 PM Response to Reply #32 |
50. I agree with you Vinnie |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 06:25 PM Response to Reply #22 |
44. Return to their old lives? |
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Haole Girl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 06:27 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. Alright. So now I have an "overactive imagination"? |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 06:37 PM Response to Reply #44 |
54. But what if |
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Haole Girl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 06:40 PM Response to Reply #54 |
57. lol! |
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stevedeshazer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 06:48 PM Response to Reply #54 |
60. Squeaky could hold up the local senior center and replay the White Album on that old piano they have |
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BuelahWitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 08:18 PM Response to Reply #44 |
84. Yeah, old people are never a threat to anyone |
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Heidi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 11:22 AM Response to Reply #22 |
118. Since you know more than the rest of us "think," please provide statistics to support your claim. |
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slampoet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 12:36 AM Response to Reply #8 |
110. Did you ever MEET president Ford? I did. |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 05:55 PM Response to Reply #2 |
9. heard this on NPR yesterday |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 05:58 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. I did not know that. nt |
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Haole Girl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 05:59 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. Here's the whole story: |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 06:05 PM Response to Reply #12 |
26. I guess they were saying the chamber was empty |
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SoCalNative (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 06:15 PM Response to Reply #2 |
35. Sara Jane Moore's sentence was life too. But she was paroled before Squeaky. |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 06:45 PM Response to Reply #2 |
59. "Life" doesn't mean life, that's why there is support for a death penalty |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 06:55 PM Response to Reply #59 |
64. Wow..."shyster lawyer" |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 06:58 PM Response to Reply #64 |
65. Even on DU. |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 07:04 PM Response to Reply #65 |
71. Not all lawyers are "good guys" |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 07:07 PM Response to Reply #71 |
74. Oh, I know |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 07:53 PM Response to Reply #74 |
79. Yeah, here's a definition: |
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newcriminal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 08:33 PM Response to Reply #79 |
89. Disreputable? It's called doing your job. |
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DefenseLawyer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 09:11 PM Response to Reply #71 |
99. You really have no understanding of our criminal justice system. |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 07:02 PM Response to Reply #64 |
69. Yes, shyster lawyer |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 07:04 PM Response to Reply #69 |
70. Words have meaning. |
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DefenseLawyer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 08:23 PM Response to Reply #59 |
86. Due process is an abstraction. |
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newcriminal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 08:37 PM Response to Reply #86 |
90. Exactly! |
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BuelahWitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 08:45 PM Response to Reply #86 |
93. Hopefully you or a loved one will never be brutally murdered by a cult |
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newcriminal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 08:51 PM Response to Reply #93 |
95. First, she didn't murder anyone. |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 09:01 PM Response to Reply #93 |
98. Let's see one single post defending a murderer |
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DefenseLawyer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 09:17 PM Response to Reply #93 |
101. If I am brutally murdered |
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FarCenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 09:43 PM Response to Reply #2 |
104. Life doesn't mean for life: that's why the death penalty is a good idea |
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newcriminal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 09:48 PM Response to Reply #104 |
105. The death penalty is a good idea? |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 10:08 PM Response to Reply #105 |
125. I do know that DNA evidence has cleared some people |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 05:48 PM Response to Original message |
3. I've got a pretty good idea. n/t |
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Haole Girl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 05:48 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Tell me |
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pitohui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 05:48 PM Response to Original message |
4. i thought the gun was unloaded, so she was not really dangerous |
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Haole Girl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 05:50 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. Have you read "Helter Skelter"? |
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pitohui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 05:57 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. yes and she was definitely NOT involved in the helter skelter murders |
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Haole Girl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 06:00 PM Response to Reply #10 |
16. It was never proven that she was |
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Vinnie From Indy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 06:06 PM Response to Reply #16 |
27. LOL! |
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Haole Girl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 06:07 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. Youtube it. I'm tired of having to prove this shit. Time will tell. nt |
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Haole Girl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 06:07 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. Youtube it. I'm tired of having to prove this shit. Time will tell. nt |
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pitohui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 06:10 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. "youtube" it? some of us actually lived back then |
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Haole Girl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 06:14 PM Response to Reply #30 |
34. I was 14, living in Sacramento California at the time. nt |
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BuelahWitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 08:42 PM Response to Reply #30 |
91. Hinckley hasn't been released |
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Chemisse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 06:35 PM Response to Reply #16 |
53. Link please. |
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Haole Girl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 06:38 PM Response to Reply #53 |
55. That she was part of the Manson cult? Post #2...post #12. Watch them. nt |
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Chemisse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 08:07 PM Response to Reply #55 |
80. Videos? My dial up can't handle them |
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cabluedem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 06:17 PM Response to Reply #7 |
37. Gun was loaded but not cocked. Gave SS time to tackle her to the ground. nt |
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Haole Girl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 06:32 PM Response to Reply #37 |
51. Sigh.... she fired once. First round was empty. IF they hadn't gotten to her in time... |
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cabluedem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 01:59 PM Response to Reply #51 |
122. The gun was cocked? Thats not what I remember. nt |
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Roland99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 05:59 PM Response to Reply #4 |
14. I believe there were four bullets in the gun but nothing in the chamber. |
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Haole Girl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 06:00 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. See post #12. nt |
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pitohui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 06:05 PM Response to Reply #17 |
25. are you this afraid of john hinckley who actually killed someone and injured a sitting president? |
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JeanGrey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 06:58 PM Response to Reply #25 |
67. When was Hinckley released? He's still in, as far as I know. |
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mitchum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 07:25 PM Response to Reply #25 |
76. Hinckley has not been released... |
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DefenseLawyer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 08:29 PM Response to Reply #76 |
87. Hinkley was acquitted |
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mitchum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 10:56 PM Response to Reply #87 |
106. Technically yes, but you well know that he can't go just come and go at his leisure... |
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DefenseLawyer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 11:03 PM Response to Reply #106 |
108. That's because he has been involuntarily committed |
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pitohui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 06:01 PM Response to Reply #14 |
20. thanks roland |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 06:01 PM Response to Reply #4 |
19. I heard that the gun misfired |
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Haole Girl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 06:04 PM Response to Reply #19 |
24. See post #2 and #12. nt |
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cabluedem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 06:10 PM Response to Reply #19 |
31. She didnt load a bullet into the chamber. That is called Cocking a gun. The SS jumped her. nt |
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cabluedem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 06:03 PM Response to Reply #4 |
23. She didnt cock the gun. When she pulled the trigger there was no round to fire. The gun was loaded. |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 06:16 PM Response to Reply #23 |
36. Well, that's a loaded way of looking at it. |
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Haole Girl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 06:20 PM Response to Reply #36 |
41. thanks boppers |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 06:43 PM Response to Reply #41 |
58. It always struck me as odd that she un-chambered, but kept the magazine. |
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cabluedem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 02:00 PM Response to Reply #36 |
123. I stand corrected. n/t |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 05:59 PM Response to Original message |
13. Now, Sara Jane Moore actually fired a couple of shots. She's still in the cooler. nt |
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SoCalNative (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 06:13 PM Response to Reply #13 |
33. Um..no. Sara Jane Moore was paroled in 2007 |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 06:21 PM Response to Reply #33 |
43. wow! She must be VERY old...nt |
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Crabby Appleton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 06:28 PM Response to Reply #43 |
47. She is, nearly 80, I saw an interview on TV with her a few months ago. |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 06:35 PM Response to Reply #47 |
52. Thanks, I'll check it out. nt |
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Crabby Appleton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 06:18 PM Response to Reply #13 |
39. Sara Jane Moore was paroled in Dec '07. |
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TheCowsCameHome (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 06:02 PM Response to Original message |
21. Remember the old axiom: "The squeaky wheel gets released" |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 06:18 PM Response to Original message |
40. Because she's 60 years old |
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Haole Girl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 06:26 PM Response to Reply #40 |
45. In all of the interviews I've seen she says she is still a Manson follower. nt |
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Chemisse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 06:40 PM Response to Reply #45 |
56. I find it hard to believe she is saying she is a Manson follower |
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Haole Girl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 07:04 PM Response to Reply #56 |
72. Ok. My curiosity got to me. So I found a link for you |
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Chemisse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 08:15 PM Response to Reply #72 |
83. Interesting - she did not seek parole |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 07:02 PM Response to Reply #40 |
68. Van Houten and Beausoleil should probably be released |
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SoCalNative (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 07:41 PM Response to Reply #68 |
77. Susan Atkins is not likely to live another 5 years |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 08:22 PM Response to Reply #77 |
85. If I was running it, I'd probably give her the medical release |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 08:08 PM Response to Reply #68 |
81. I'll defer to you |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 06:29 PM Response to Original message |
48. She's going to have a tail for the rest of her life |
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Haole Girl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 06:30 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. Honestly, I hope so. nt |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 06:52 PM Response to Original message |
61. I think it would be good law to make all assasination attempts = life no parole. |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 06:52 PM Response to Original message |
62. Does anyone have a recent image of her? |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 06:52 PM Response to Original message |
63. 34 years for attempted murder? I think that's long enough |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 07:05 PM Response to Reply #63 |
73. Any association with Manson gets you another 15-20 years on your sentence, minimum |
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tabasco (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 06:58 PM Response to Original message |
66. Assassinations change the course of history. |
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madamesilverspurs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 07:17 PM Response to Reply #66 |
75. Yes, and it's a very uncomfortable coincidence |
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jmowreader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 07:49 PM Response to Original message |
78. Easy. They needed a cell for Orly Taitz. |
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BuelahWitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 08:13 PM Response to Original message |
82. Somebody in TX hopes she'll go after another president? |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 08:30 PM Response to Original message |
88. They let that vermin out of prison? WHY?! Oh well, it's just more proof |
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dorkulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 08:42 PM Response to Original message |
92. All I know is the NFL better not let her play. nt |
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hippywife (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 08:49 PM Response to Original message |
94. Geez, people. |
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Hamlette (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 08:53 PM Response to Original message |
96. she has cancer, the state was tired of paying for her med bills n/t |
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Haole Girl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 08:58 PM Response to Reply #96 |
97. Thank you. I did not know. |
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Chemisse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 09:15 PM Response to Reply #96 |
100. omg - so they give her parole even though she didn't ask for it |
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Hamlette (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 10:57 PM Response to Reply #100 |
107. it is brain cancer, apparently advanced |
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BuelahWitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 12:45 PM Response to Reply #107 |
121. No, that's Susan Atkins |
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ContinentalOp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 02:45 AM Response to Reply #96 |
112. Seriously? Sounds like a good opportunity... |
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BuelahWitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 12:44 PM Response to Reply #96 |
120. I think y'all, and the link provided, are mixing Squeaky up with Susan Atkins |
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Politicalboi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 09:24 PM Response to Original message |
102. Maybe the Bush's need |
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RetroLounge (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 09:36 PM Response to Original message |
103. Yeah, lets lock her up because you have "chills" |
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Haole Girl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 12:32 AM Response to Reply #103 |
109. I said she always "gave me chills." I thought you had better command of ... |
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RetroLounge (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 10:01 AM Response to Reply #109 |
114. So for the 30+ years she's been in jail you've had "chills" about her? |
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Heidi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 01:28 AM Response to Original message |
111. What? No outrage that Sara Jane Moore was released 20 months ago? |
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RetroLounge (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 10:02 AM Response to Reply #111 |
115. I guess SJM didn't give her enough "chills" |
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Heidi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 10:29 AM Response to Reply #115 |
116. It's funny how crime TV (and pulp crime novels posing as literature) bend one's perceptions, |
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RetroLounge (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 05:39 PM Response to Reply #116 |
124. Thanks Heidi, I apreciate that. |
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WCGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 10:31 AM Response to Original message |
117. The Squeaky Fromme get the oil.... |
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deaniac21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 11:53 AM Response to Original message |
119. 1. Ford was rebublican |
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126. 34 years in jail is a long time |
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