All I'll say is this regarding health care....

[catnhatnh]

I know more people without a preventive visit to a doctor in the last year than people with one. I know more people with obvious or suspected problems than I do with "full" coverage... A ten year old with glasses might better spend two afternoons with a lasix surgeon than decades with their glasses and at a lower cost. Most of my people go to dentists for extractions.-not surgery to save teeth. We get healthcare for only pain or disability.Our healthcare is desperation and never a given. And only because actuaries think about this years profit and never the real best outcome.

Real healthcare must include all facets. Ain't no use covering just some.If you leave people toothless and blind and without full spectrum care then you are giving up.

Demand it all and demand it now. This opportunity happens only decades apart. If you would have it for a single friend or family member then it MUST be a right for every citizen.

Myself, I'm mostly sick about friends without the access every moron we see on TV gets to real healthcare-you know-what rich folk and celebrities and government employees get. Do you deserve healthcare? How about your parents or children?

They are (mostly) citizens and contributors to the republic. They deserve to be treated as a valuable asset.

[Strong Atheist]

1. K&R. nt.

[TheKentuckian]

2. I can't argue that. Bad teeth are the express route to 2nd class.

A jacked up grill will cost you many a chance at a job and it all keeps cycling down. Not to mention the huge health and nutritional problems that are included.

[Laelth]

3. Yes, but single-payer was never on the table.

Ask all the Party apparatchiks around here. They'll tell you.

The people are being sold out by the Democratic Party, and I am disgusted, depressed, and angry about it.

:dem:

-Laelth

[truedelphi]

12. Did you catch the Thom Hartman videos posted

On DU yesterday?

The videos PROVE beyond a shadow of a doubt that the Obama of 2008 said things that the Obama of 2009 has either forgotten, or perhaps aliens have kidnapped the President and substituted in the Big Pharma Friendly, Big Insurer-friendly wise guy that is now in the oval office.

There really is no comparison between Obama of '08 and '09, whatever the apparatchiks are trying to sell us on. What does exist is a BETRAYAL of the largest order. And why you or I should have to accept a betrayal is beyond me. :shrug:

[Laelth]

4. Dupe.

Dupe. Sorry.

:dem:

-Laelth

[greennina]

5. I'd love to see some real numbers...

showing just how much better care the rich whites get as compared to minorities. The entire system today is designed to keep minorities from the care we need.

[John Q. Citizen]

9. Minorities? We are talking about white christian children here not getting health care.

We are talking about white working families who go bankrupt from an accident or an illness.

We are talking about all of us. The American people are being ripped off. It doesn't matter how much melatonin you have or don't have. It doesn't matter what the color of your eyes. We are getting ripped off! All of us.

[Merlot]

13. Not all white people are rich

Plenty of whites without health care. Lots of employed minorities. Not really sure why anyone's color should affect this debate.

[Control-Z]

6. I'm getting really pissed off.

Who the fuck unrec'd this? I apologize for my language, but damn, who would do that?

Good OP.

K&R

[slipslidingaway]

7. knr nt

[windoe]

8. Good point, media personalities all have full coverage

and generous salaries (which should be publicized on a regular basis, just to make a point, along with their benefits!!) The picture has to be made clear so that any idiot can understand.

Who pays their salaries, follow the $$$$$$.

[DCKit]

10. But some brown people might get covered by accident...

and isn't that really what this is about?:sarcasm:

[Stinky The Clown]

11. Amen!

K&R