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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 04:38 PM
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A hypothetical situation (re: armed protester in NH)
Let's say I'm walking down the street, minding my own business, carrying a .40-caliber Smith & Wesson pistol under my jacket in a secure holster (with a valid CHL), and I bump into President Barack Obama all by his lonesome - no Secret Service, no military, no nothin'. He's got half an hour to kill, and so do I, so we grab some food from a street vendor and share a park bench, feeding the pigeons with some of our breadcrumbs.

We discuss health care, Iraq, renewable energy, and science education. And we do so like rational, mature human beings.

Obama finally notices the butt of my handgun peeking out from under my jacket. "You know," he tells me, "I'm not a big fan of concealed carry. No offense to you, but that's just not part of the value system I grew up with."

"No harm done," I respond. "It's admittedly a complicated issue, but I still hold out hope for a workable nationwide reciprocity system."

He tells me of a couple of incidents where neighborhood children were gunned down and how their deaths spurred his community activism and shaped his policial career. I listen patiently, knowing that no parent should survive to bury a child.

Finally, the half hour is up. Obama's limousine arrives, his agent on duty snaps a picture of the two of us with my camera, we shake hands and wish each other well, and I head down the street while Obama heads back to his official duties.

That's just me, of course. Obviously, it's highly unrealistic to expect this sort of contact with a sitting President in today's world, especially in light of all of the fear-mongering by the insurance companies and their hired lackeys who disrupt townhall meetings with an endless stream of anger and bullshit. It's safe to say that at least 80% of those anti-reform bully boys, had they been in my position, would have responded to Obama's presence by trying to inflict harm on him.

All I ever wanted during the past eight years was to see George W. Bush hauled off in handcuffs to stand trial for his crimes against America. But there is so much anger and hatred in our nation today - and so many people behind the scenes who have a vested interest in keeping it that way. These disruptors don't want civilization or decorum. Many of them aren't even capable of wanting something - instead, they wait for someone to tell them what they're supposed to want.

And that is not the sort of citizenry you can trust with concealed handguns in front of the President.

Just my two cents...
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obliviously Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 04:45 PM
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1. So the whole point of your little story
is you would have liked to have seen a has been president hauled off in handcuffs? What does that have to do with sitting armed with a handgun talking to Obama? What are you smoking?
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 04:48 PM
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3. The point is that we need to take a hard look at what kind of citizenry we want to be
That goon in NH, from what I could tell, was all about intimidation and bluster.

I aspire to a mindset that's more mature and pensieve than that.

And I hope most of my fellow Americans do, too. I know my fellow Democrats do - even the ones who don't think I should be issued a CHL.
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rd_kent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 04:48 PM
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2. I understand your point perfectly
Nice post. Shows how there CAN be a middle ground, if we really want it.
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 04:49 PM
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4. I appreciate that greatly
I probably took a roundabout way of getting to my point, but thank you for the support. :hi:
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 04:57 PM
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5. How and why did President Obama ditch the Secret Service?
Being able to simply bump into a president without SS has not been possible for a long time. Not just because of "all of the fear-mongering by the insurance companies and their hired lackeys who disrupt townhall meetings with an endless stream of anger and bullshit."
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 05:01 PM
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6. As the title of the OP implies...
...this is strictly a hypothetical situation. It demonstrates where someone could sit down with the President and act like a rational human being despite the fact that he's packing. But I also pointed out where this would be unrealistic in today's world.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 05:11 PM
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7. Got it. thank you
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 05:12 PM
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8. No trouble at all
:hi:
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