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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 04:18 PM
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tweety just called it...'it's about having a black president'
Edited on Tue Aug-11-09 04:21 PM by spanone
fucking 'A' tweety

on msnbc

discussing the rednecks at the townhalls

he said this to the 'conservative' from the wall street urinal
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 04:19 PM
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1. rec. nt
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nonsequitur Donating Member (88 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 12:15 AM
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154. i'm sure some of it is, but not most. i mean they sure drooled over Condi Rice....
and they like that nut case Keyes. If President Obama was a conservative Republican, he would be their idol.
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Chulanowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 12:50 AM
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155. Different circumstances
Edited on Wed Aug-12-09 12:51 AM by Chulanowa
Rice was subservient to a white man and her job was basically to run errands for him. Her area of expertise centered around a nation that no longer exists, and so her intellectual achievements were non-threatening.

Alan Keyes, like Thomas Sowell, regularly repeats the claims made by white supremacists. They are self-hating back men who enjoy nothing more than stepping on the necks of their fellow African-Americans so long as it wins a nod and smile from a white guy somewhere.

Barack Obama is the president. While our tripartite system means that he's not exactly the most powerful man in the nation, he's close enough to ruffle feathers. He doesn't bow and scrape to a "massa," he's obviously of above-average intelligence, and he doesn't seem to favor whites over his own - or anyone else, for that matter.

THAT'S why Barack Obama is getting this, and the other three don't.
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lillypaddle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 07:04 AM
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169. You're exactly right
Hit the nail on the head.
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newtothegame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 01:41 PM
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193. Wow, ignorance. n/t
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Chulanowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 11:41 PM
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203. Pardon?
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Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 02:49 PM
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199. +1
People of color in positions of power that support & reinforce the current power structure do to trigger the latent fear and panic that an independent person, a 'community organizer', like President Obama does. Some racists don't think they are racist because they like their black co-worker or neighbor but if they ever act like they don't know their place or their kid wants to date the neighbor's kid watch the fit hit the shan.

It is like with the misogynists who think all women should be housewives unless it someone like Phyllis Schlafly who traveled around, wrote, gave speeches about how women should stay home and be housewives :crazy:
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Jade Fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 02:51 PM
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200. Exactly. n/t
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northernlights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 05:00 AM
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156. and they raped their slave girls too
Drooling over a servant-girl and tolerating token-puppets does not unmake a bigot.
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 05:42 AM
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157. Yeah, they called them non-human and yet f**ked them every chance they got.
And the silly little white women would ignore it as if she were not simply another concubine and part of a vast harem.
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Autonomy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 12:17 PM
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188. who is they?
who owns a slave to rape her? let's not get carried away with metaphorical language.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 05:56 AM
Response to Reply #154
158. no, these people fully understand
the need to have a house ni@#er.
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jasi2006 Donating Member (544 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 06:07 AM
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162. No they didn't drool over Condi Rice. These are not the same people.
These people hated that Bush appointed Condi to anything but regarded it as a necessary evil to get some black votes. These same people hated Collin Powell and loved seeing him get his ass kicked by Cheney.
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HowHasItComeToThis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 11:47 AM
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186. TWEETY WANTS IT TO BE ABOUT RACE
IT IS ABOUT INTELLIGENCE AND POISE
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svpadgham Donating Member (374 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 03:34 PM
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201. I disagree. It is about race
I never saw a protest sign that said "Obama's too smart," but I have seen one that said "It's called the White House...Nigger."
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 04:19 PM
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2. *BAM*!!
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 04:20 PM
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6. shizzzzam
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 04:22 PM
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13. !!
:hi:
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 04:45 PM
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51. of course, tomorrow tweety will say something and i'll hate his ass all over again.
:rofl: :fistbump:
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 04:45 PM
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52. of course
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 07:29 PM
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128. Yes Cat, I too share a love hate relationship
with the Tweet. During the '00 election campaign and again in '04 I stopped watching hime becuase he made my bp rise.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 08:46 PM
Response to Reply #128
142. yeah, like tonight during the last segment of his show
when he was tearing into Hillary.

Completely unnecessary.

And catty.

and stupid.
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spiritual_gunfighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 01:34 PM
Response to Reply #128
190. Me too
He was one of the biggest cheerleaders of the Iraq war on cable news. He often referred to GWB as a hero and it seemed like he worshipped him and his cowboy diplomacy. But lately he has been disgusted with the obvious racism towards the President by these teabagging scumbags. So good for tweety.
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mascarax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 06:03 PM
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105. That is true. He's right.
Tweety is very frustrating. He speaks the truth, but then he'll turn around and speak Tweety.

The media really needs to start calling this what it is - racism.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 06:35 PM
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112. NO...it's Tweety getting Ratings Numbers for playing the "Race Card" which has Nothing to do with
Health Insurance Reform. It's MSNBC/Tweety picking off Fox News Viewers to bring in Ad Revenue.

Don't be SUCKERED!
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 06:00 AM
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159. Wrong answer.
The town hall meeting protests are pumped up because President Obama is black and suspicious in the minds of the white trash protesters.
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 07:10 PM
Response to Reply #105
125. That's the truth
"Frustrating" sums it up well. He has really poor impulse control.
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It Cant Just Be Me Donating Member (41 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 08:11 PM
Response to Reply #105
133. Mascarx back me up here.
What's up Mascarax?

Join in tonight at 10pmCT on www.blogtalkradio.com/EadyMedia
as I talk "Healthcare Scare." This is aggressive progressive talk
unlike you've ever heard. Call in's are more than welcomed.

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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 06:03 AM
Response to Reply #105
161. You can't be anything better
than Catholic in Tweety's world. I was raised Catholic so I recognize the speak but it is pretty overt.
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lukasahero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 06:40 PM
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114. .
:rofl:

At least you're honest!
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jhrobbins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 06:49 PM
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118. And therein lies the mystery of chris
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 06:01 AM
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160. That's Tweety.
:fistbump:
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Bobbie Jo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 04:19 PM
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3. rec 5 nt
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 04:20 PM
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4. Finally! nt
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Mrs. Overall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 04:20 PM
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5. Yes.
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dmr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 04:20 PM
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7. Word!
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 04:20 PM
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8. And everybody knows it. And if *tweety* is saying it....
Edited on Tue Aug-11-09 04:20 PM by BlooInBloo
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 04:27 PM
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21. This is true, Good point.
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FatDave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 05:01 PM
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59. I always thought of Tweety as the voice of the undecided voter.
People complain that he goes back and forth, that sometimes you love him and sometimes you hate him. I think he represents the easily swayed, the classic swing voter. So if he's calling it, chances are a lot of average, good-intentioned-but-not-entirely-tuned-in people are too.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 05:27 PM
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83. No need to overthink it. Sometimes he's a jackass (death panels), sometimes he's not.
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 04:21 PM
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9. Yup, He Was Pissed (nt)
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lamp_shade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 04:21 PM
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10. Rec #22
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Parker CA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 04:21 PM
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11. Yep. LOVED to hear that. And this f-ing tool on his show is saying it's nothing about race.
The guy, Steven Moore something is in serious denial. Absolutely a maroon of the highest order.

Glad to hear Tweety calling a spade a spade.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 04:22 PM
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14. he said that 'some' of these people voted for Obama...bwahahahahahaa
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Parker CA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 04:29 PM
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23. Yeah, I heard that. I've also noticed that there are zero minorities at these screaming matches.
The demographic is 40-70 and white, and they are filled with absolute vitriol and false information. Pure and simple. Obama voters, my ass!
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Missy Vixen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 04:34 PM
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36. I just turned 49
My husband is 45. We are white. We voted for Obama.

>Obama voters, my ass!<

The only ones who have time to go to the "screaming matches" are those who live off their investments, or are being paid to do so. Ooops. Did I say that? My bad.
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Parker CA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 04:42 PM
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50. Or that get bussed in and fed scripts of what to say. Clearly not all white 40-70 year olds
are in that group, but that group is composed of mainly all white 40-70 year olds.
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howmad1 Donating Member (959 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 09:08 PM
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146. Plus they are fat, and are in dire need of health care.
And, you would have to pry their medicare card out of their cold dead hands. And god forbid their social security check goes astray, holy shit there would be hell to pay. What a bunch of white, racist assholes.
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a la izquierda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 12:06 AM
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153. Or grad students and teachers. NT
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PSzymeczek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 06:41 PM
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116. Yeah. Well he's one of Murdoch's minions.
Writes for the Wall Street Journal.:eyes:
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stranger81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 12:26 AM
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204. Steven Moore is the lamest of the group of conservatives Bill Maher always has on his show.
He can't think on his feet and always gets his ass handed to him. But he's fascinating to watch, as his body language & facial expressions sure look at times like he's painfully aware that his arguments are ludicrous. I can't tell if he's the ultimate cynical player, or just extremely sensitive to criticism.
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Kool Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 12:43 AM
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209. Moore looks like Doug Feith's
lost brother. Feh.
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stranger81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 01:04 AM
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210. Maybe they hatched from the same alien pod. [n/t]
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 04:21 PM
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12. Yeah, we can say it's because they want the status quo
but those rabid hienas are doing the insurance companies' bidding because they can't handle who the President is.
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chelsea0011 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 04:22 PM
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15. I heard someone yesterday say that some white peole are having
Edited on Tue Aug-11-09 04:22 PM by chelsea0011
a hard time seeing their world change around them. First Obama, then Sotomayor.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 04:22 PM
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18. it's the scary truth.
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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 04:35 PM
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38. Exactly correct.
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 07:06 PM
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123. personally, as a ww
i think the change is AWESOME! let's have more! :)
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stranger81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 12:29 AM
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206. Spot on. That's exactly what's happening. [n/t]
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 04:22 PM
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16. EX-FUCKING-ACTLY!!!!
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It Cant Just Be Me Donating Member (41 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 08:11 PM
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134. What's up Taverner?
Join in tonight at 10pmCT on www.blogtalkradio.com/EadyMedia
as I talk "Healthcare Scare." This is aggressive progressive talk
unlike you've ever heard. Call in's are more than welcomed.

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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 04:22 PM
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17. Bill Maher said the same thing
All the Hitler nonsense is really grasping for things to say instead of just admitting the truth: that they can't stand having a black man in the White House.
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It Cant Just Be Me Donating Member (41 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 08:15 PM
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136. And he was right again.
What's up aint_no_life_nowhere,

Join in tonight at 10pmCT on www.blogtalkradio.com/EadyMedia
as I talk "Healthcare Scare." This is aggressive progressive talk
unlike you've ever heard. Call in's are more than welcomed.

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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 04:24 PM
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19. this assclown is saying the pharma companies are all for the Obama plan
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kelly1mm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 04:31 PM
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27. Maybe he is right on this point
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 04:31 PM
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28. The pharma companies are all for the Obama plan. That's true. That's why they were at all the
meetings the White house has, and sat on all the panels. They didn't send there best negotiators so Obama could limit thiewr business. They sent thier best so that they could get a big share on that trillion dollars Obama is talking about spending. They are all for this Obama/Dem plan. Absolutely.

It's the Republicans who are against it. Not big business. They will make lots off it.

But the Repos in congress have determined that if the Dems win they lose.
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 08:56 PM
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145. I think they're gambling that a public option won't make it. In which
case, this health care reform is looking an awful lot like a huge handout for the health care industry.
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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 04:25 PM
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20. Good for him!!
Tweety is getting better all the time!!

I used to not like him. I like him much better recently.


"We don't shout down other speakers. We don't rage." ---Gov. Ed Rendell

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Xzanther Donating Member (53 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 04:27 PM
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wow
Simply wow.
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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 05:00 PM
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58. Wow indeed. Enough with the coddling and enabling of these slack-jawed racists.
It's time they were called out for being exactly what they are - a bunch of knuckle-dragging, I *heart* George Wallace t-shit wearing, KKK wannabe bigoted assholes without the sense God gave a cornflake.
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stranger81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 12:32 AM
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207. Why can't I recommend *this* post??
What I wouldn't give for someone to take the gloves off and call it like it is.
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 04:27 PM
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22. K&R
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ljm2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 04:29 PM
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24. He does redeem himself at times, doesn't he? n/t
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 04:31 PM
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26. i think matthews respects the game of politics and these wingnuts piss him off
or scare him
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It Cant Just Be Me Donating Member (41 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 08:13 PM
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135. I love that line
Hey ljm2002,

I'll borrown that line tonight! Join in tonight at 10pmCT on www.blogtalkradio.com/EadyMedia
as I talk "Healthcare Scare." This is aggressive progressive talk
unlike you've ever heard. Call ins are more than welcomed.

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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 04:32 PM
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30. hello? you are at a liberal website and it is about race.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 04:33 PM
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31. You're An Idiot
n/t
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Fleet Donating Member (93 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 04:34 PM
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37. Nice assumptions people
Just because I think it's preposterous to reduce this to racism doesn't mean that I support the Pubs actions at these meetings. I don't.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 04:38 PM
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44. preposterous not to reduce it to race is preposterous...
Edited on Tue Aug-11-09 04:39 PM by spanone
your reference to 'libs' is telling
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Fleet Donating Member (93 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 04:41 PM
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49. It should be telling
Obviously I am not a Liberal, and damn proud of it.

You may notice I also refer to "Pubs" and "Cons" with a similar tone for the same reason.
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 04:52 PM
Response to Reply #49
56. You sure are good at making friends, aren't you?
At least 85% of DUers are liberal.
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Fleet Donating Member (93 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 05:02 PM
Response to Reply #56
60. Well, you couldn't have the other 15% without people like me.
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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 05:12 PM
Response to Reply #60
72. Sooner or later, racists like you find it impossible to contain yourself and your true colors show.
Excuse me why I make some calls for a pizza delivery.
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Fleet Donating Member (93 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 05:15 PM
Response to Reply #72
73. How is this racist?
Just because you throw a label at someone doesn't give it meaning.

I don't think the protesters/disrupters are inherently racist, and that makes me a racist? I can't believe I just took shit for saying that people are quick to play the race card, because here you have it.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 05:26 PM
Response to Reply #73
82. this post is about chris matthews calling them racists....he is not a liberal
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Aragorn Donating Member (784 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 05:39 PM
Response to Reply #73
89. you have failed
the test. Over the magical intertubes, certain DU members with special sensory powers can tell what you REALLY mean.

I think it's because he's s/w black and s/w liberal.

Race? There's only one. No extraterrestrial aliens have ever held office in the USA - as far as we know.
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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 06:42 PM
Response to Reply #89
117. What's that smell?
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 06:10 AM
Response to Reply #73
163. You're damn proud
to not be 'liberal'? If that is the case you have bought into Limbaugh's definition of liberal. That being the case.......get lost.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 04:34 PM
Response to Reply #25
35. "The race card" is a phrase used by Republicans to deny their racism
and especially to deny that they purposefully inflame their racist base because that's all they have.

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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 05:25 PM
Response to Reply #35
79. Amen - and where the hell is that pizza I ordered? Did you order a pizza too?
I think we should all order a pizza.
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 05:49 PM
Response to Reply #79
94. I'm hungry, too.
Pizza sounds good.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 06:52 PM
Response to Reply #94
120. I prefer ordering flowers
Everytime
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newtothegame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 01:45 PM
Response to Reply #79
195. Wow, a little less time desperately searching for trolls...
and a little more time using this as a DISCUSSION forum and we'll make a good poster out of you yet.
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stranger81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 12:37 AM
Response to Reply #195
208. No desperate searching required . . .
for the troll who barges in to your living room and shits on the coffee table. He's in your living room. And shitting on the coffee table.

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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 04:35 PM
Response to Reply #25
39. Huh????
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 04:35 PM
Response to Reply #25
40. So there's no more racism in America?
Wow, those intensely hateful feelings of certain white people towards African Americans that festered for well over a century suddenly disappeared. Who knew?
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Fleet Donating Member (93 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 04:37 PM
Response to Reply #40
42. I didn't say racism is dead...
I just think it's silly to suggest that the Pub opposition to the proposed health care reform is based entirely on the fact that Obama is black.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 04:41 PM
Response to Reply #42
48. it's also damned silly to say 'no one plays the race card like Libs' on democratic underground
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FatDave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 05:10 PM
Response to Reply #48
70. I have to agree with spanone here.
Had you phrased your dissent with less hostility, I might have backed you up. I think the race aspect is often overstated myself, because I remember a similar reaction to a white southern male president in the not too distant past. I've taken a lot of heat here for saying that, but I argue my point with reason and logic. There's no need to go acting like a dick.
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Fleet Donating Member (93 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 05:11 PM
Response to Reply #70
71. Ageed. My phrasing was in poor taste.
While there certainly was a more mature way to express my opinion I still stand by it.
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amandabeech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 10:25 PM
Response to Reply #70
151. Yeah, I think that this is the same bunch that terrorized the Clintons.
The race aspect is certainly there, but these folks don't like anyone to the left of Dick Cheney.

Some of these folks probably thought that the shrub was too liberal.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 05:08 PM
Response to Reply #42
67. The Repuke opposition to EVERYTHING Obama says and does
is all about racism. And I say this as a WHITE woman. I was fairly clueless about racism in the US for a long time, because it didn't happen to me, but having it happen to MY PRESIDENT has shown me how severe our problem still is. I'm surprised we don't still have lynchings down south.
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Fleet Donating Member (93 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 05:10 PM
Response to Reply #67
69. You seem to be saying:
That you can't disagree with a black president without being a racist... That's actually a pretty racist sentiment.
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 05:32 PM
Response to Reply #69
87. Isn't it probably more like BOTH because he's black AND liberal?
I have no problem with anyone opposing Obama's programs when they base it on facts and a rational discussion. It's the irrational ones who compare him to Hitler or Dr. Kevorkian who seem to have an ulterior motive for opposing him beyond their words.

How many high profile politicians does the GOP run for office who happen to be African American? Isn't it a fact that the GOP is the strongest in the places that used to have slaves or practice Jim Crow and were the biggest opponents to the civil rights movement?

Obama is not all that liberal but everyone knows he's black. Of course the right wing nuts are going oppose any liberal's plan to reform healthcare. But if that liberal also happens to be black, it sure doesn't win him any favorable points among a lot of conservatives.
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Fleet Donating Member (93 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 05:40 PM
Response to Reply #87
90. Certainly, there is racist opposition to Obama
But I think it's dangerous to write off any criticism of the man as racist. Additionally agree that attempting to equate Obama, and any other US President for that matter, to Hitler is ignorant and childish. I think I took the OP to be a bit more general in scope than it was intended, and the resulting I generated shit-storm was not my intent.

The only thing I disagree with is the idea that Obama is "not all that Liberal."
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 08:44 PM
Response to Reply #90
141. have you seen these people at the town halls? this is beyond 'any criticism'
this is over the top hatred. no civil discourse here.

these people are full of hate.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 06:17 AM
Response to Reply #90
165. Right wing talking point alert!
NO ONE said "any criticism" of Obama is racist. You are saying it. Go on back home to freeperville.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 05:54 PM
Response to Reply #69
98. Don't put words in my mouth. The blatant, overt racism has been
going on for months. The more subtle racism is also there for those who care to pay attention.
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Hansel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 08:47 PM
Response to Reply #69
143. Dichotomous arguments are pretty much a give away.
No one said you can't disagree with a black president without being a racist. You made that up.
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Chemisse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 08:39 PM
Response to Reply #42
138. The rabid and robotic reaction of the opposition
Is way out of proportion for differing on the health care issue. It's driven by hate, not logic.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 06:20 AM
Response to Reply #138
166. Well said, Chemisse.
Edited on Wed Aug-12-09 06:21 AM by Enthusiast
This is the kind of protest one would expect if they actually were performing euthanasia on grandma, live on TV.
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hulka38 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 09:36 PM
Response to Reply #42
149. It's only a gigantic percentage.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 06:14 AM
Response to Reply #42
164. Just mostly.
And don't call us 'libs'. It's a dead giveaway that your are right from RW central casting. Your stealth is showing.
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Bobbie Jo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 04:39 PM
Response to Reply #25
47. Damn libruuls
are you lost?
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 04:46 PM
Response to Reply #25
54. Bullshit. It's about having a Black President, not a liberal one.
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Fleet Donating Member (93 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 04:49 PM
Response to Reply #54
55. Oh, well I guess that settles it then...
:P
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Morning Dew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 04:57 PM
Response to Reply #25
57. 4 days
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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 05:30 PM
Response to Reply #57
85. 4 brain cells,
Approximately 22 posts per brain cell so far. Pretty average for a Freeper, which is really sad since Freepers are sub-average to begin with.
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Morning Dew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 06:03 PM
Response to Reply #85
104. and...... pizza delivered ! nm
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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 06:06 PM
Response to Reply #104
108. Woooooo! Hoooooo!
I LOVES troll pizza!
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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 05:04 PM
Response to Reply #25
61. LIbs? FUCK YOU. I am damned PROUD to be an American liberal. Better than the scumbucket racists
screeching and dragging their knuckles in these astroturfed town hall debacles.
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Fleet Donating Member (93 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 05:06 PM
Response to Reply #61
64. There are other people you know.
The world consists of more than Liberals and "racist knuckle-draggers."
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 05:05 PM
Response to Reply #25
62. Fuck off. There. I said it.
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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 05:19 PM
Response to Reply #62
74. +1
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 05:05 PM
Response to Reply #25
63. FR is thataway >>>>>>>>>>> Bye bye!
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 05:09 PM
Response to Reply #63
68. Deleted message
Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 05:21 PM
Response to Reply #68
75. Ignorant fucking racists tend to assert such things, as you do.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 05:53 PM
Response to Reply #68
96. Read the forum rules. DU is for DEMOCRATS, not freepers or Libertarians.
You are clueless about racism. The code words have been popping up ALL OVER the place.
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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 06:04 PM
Response to Reply #96
106. You are more generous than I.
I believe this one holds racism close and dear.
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 05:22 PM
Response to Reply #25
76. Bullshit
When this group refuse to disbelieve the notion that Obama was born in Kenya, despite plentiful evidence to the contrary, it's about not believing a black man could possibly be a natural-born citizen. And incidently, the only people to accuse others of "playing the race card" are racists.

Enjoy your tombstone, asshole.
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Fleet Donating Member (93 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 05:25 PM
Response to Reply #76
81. Is every oppossed to HR3200 a birther?
I don't think so. Just because Obama has insane critics, some of whom are racists, doesn't mean that everyone who criticizes him or his policies is an insane racist.
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 05:45 PM
Response to Reply #81
92. No but the people disrupting town halls are n/t
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d_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 05:25 PM
Response to Reply #25
80. well hey thar shitty gimmick
I love ya even if my pals don't.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 05:36 PM
Response to Reply #25
88. Uh... Obama is not a liberal. So... no. (nt)
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Fleet Donating Member (93 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 05:41 PM
Response to Reply #88
91. How is Obama not a Liberal?
Edited on Tue Aug-11-09 05:41 PM by Fleet
He may not be the most Liberal, but that's a different argument altogether.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 05:50 PM
Response to Reply #91
95. Oh Jesus. Yeah, nevermind.
I would bother to explain about how fucked up the political landscape is in this country, as it relates to how far right the republicans are now vs. where they were years ago... and ditto for the Democrats... but if you haven't noticed by now, what's the fucking point?
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misanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 01:47 PM
Response to Reply #95
196. You mean like this?...
...Laissez faire capitalism and socialism are at opposite ends of the spectrum. However, when the former arises in discussion, it is handled far more gingerly and given a modicum of respect. When its counterpart on the left is referenced, it is automatically demonized.

Do you hear anyone using the label of objectivist as a pejorative in this nation? How about socialist? How are the works of Ayn Rand treated as compared to those of Karl Marx?

What I find disheartening is that in this nation, we have only two political choices: the party of the status quo (Dems) and the party of regression (GOP). There is no widespread force for progressive politics and it's not even entertained as a legitimate option in a lot of quarters.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 01:55 PM
Response to Reply #196
198. Yes! And the reason we have no widespread force for progressive politics,
IMO, is because far too many are completely ignorant about what it even means, thanks to that fucked-up view of the political landscape.

*sigh*
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retread Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 06:14 PM
Response to Reply #25
109. Fleet! Is that you Mr. Enema? n/t
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beltanefauve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 07:46 PM
Response to Reply #25
129. You think Obama's a Liberal?
:rofl:

Obama's positions, as a Senator, as a candidate, and so far as President, are Centrist; center-left at most. If you were a Liberal, you'd already know this.
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Raineyb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 08:01 PM
Response to Reply #25
130. ...
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Hansel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 08:40 PM
Response to Reply #25
139. Except the RWs going to the town halls playing the race card.
Denial not just a river in Egypt anymore, ey?

Tell it to someone who hasn't spent their entire life around right wingers and red necks. I've never met one that wasn't a racist and proud of it. Not one.

There is no way anyone can say that 99% of the vein popping red face buffoons going to these town halls are not freaked out because Obama is black, has an Arab name and is in "their" White House. They believe any and every lie spouted about him because they are ready to. Not because he is a Liberal, but because he is black and has a funny name.

They gave themselves away during the interviews conducted while they were in lines waiting to get into Palin campaigns. They gave themselves away by yelling racist epithets inside the rallies. They give themselves away because they follow the racist f*cks Beck, Limbaugh, Dobbs and Hannity. They respond to these garbage spouting racists because they are racist. They give themselves away by their signs and the crap they spout in and outside of the town halls. And their utter disrespect for our president after cramming respect for Bush down everyone's throat for the past 8 years.

You know when these fools should have been upset? When our Supreme Court facilitated the coup that put Bush in the White House. When Bush was using the constitution for toilet paper. When Bush approved listening in on our phone calls and snooping through our email. When Bush was passing out hundreds of billions of our dollars to his friends through no bid contracts. When Bush lied us into a war and tortured people against our laws. If that didn't upset these supposed champions of freedom and liberty (what a joke) then their feigned concern now is a little hard to stomach.

No sweetie. This is about racism, pure and simple. And the insurance industry is counting on it. Fools. Live with it.


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Mattylock Donating Member (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 09:27 PM
Response to Reply #139
148. Fucking brilliant!!
Favorite post of all time!!:fistbump:
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Barrymores Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 12:35 PM
Response to Reply #148
189. +1 Fucking SNAP!!!! n/t
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 09:20 PM
Response to Reply #25
147. haha! You been tombstoned.
Tough luck, troll.
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DallasNE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 11:43 PM
Response to Reply #25
152. What Is A "Presdient"?
You need to study the map showing counties in the US where Obama received a bigger percent of the vote than Kerry and the counties in the US where McCain received a bigger percent of the vote than Bush in 04. The McCain pick-up was 95% along the Mason-Dixon line from West Virginia to Tuscon, AZ. Obama would have had an even bigger win were it not for Red-Neck country and that means the primary issue was race. There is simply no way around the role race has played and continues to play in American politics -- and the Republicans won't let go.
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olegramps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 09:25 AM
Response to Reply #25
176. Have you got your required number of posts to get credit.
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 09:33 AM
Response to Reply #25
180. What kind of pizza would you like? Would you like some bread sticks with your order?
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 04:32 PM
Response to Original message
29. Good for him!
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 04:33 PM
Response to Original message
33. wall street urinal...
Love that:)

I can't believe the truth was spoken on TV!! Astounding!
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 04:35 PM
Response to Reply #33
41. worth catching the rerun...tweety doesn't suffer fools well
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 04:37 PM
Response to Reply #41
43. I'm thinking he may now realize...
What side of his bread is buttered, and by whom;) TV, radio... it's a ratings game. No matter how loud the Teabagging Astroturf Birthers are, they are fewer in number than they like to think. It's all about the numbers.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 04:33 PM
Response to Original message
34. Did he finally extract his head out of
Edited on Tue Aug-11-09 04:34 PM by Cleita
the GOP's ass? I wonder how long that is going to last?
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 04:38 PM
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45. ZING!
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 04:39 PM
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46. Slam dunk, Tweety! n/t
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BlueIdaho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 04:46 PM
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53. About time...
Good for him - we need some honest voices out there.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 05:07 PM
Response to Original message
65. He's said it before but he needs to say it
daily.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 05:08 PM
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66. Well bless him for saying it!
Not that it isn't blindingly obvious to most on this site.
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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 05:24 PM
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77. K&R
:kick:
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 05:24 PM
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78. He's right about that.
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SIMPLYB1980 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 05:28 PM
Response to Original message
84. Once in a while I am reminded that he can be a real newsman.
About time someone other than us called them out.
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 05:30 PM
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86. he is pretty good these days.
It's more interesting to hear both sides.
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 05:47 PM
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93. That's okay...he'll soon say something that will piss everybody off
Maybe he'll have Pat Buchanan back on his show, for "balance."

That's the way the Tweetster rolls....
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 06:01 PM
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102. Dragging too many noses behind him...
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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 05:54 PM
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97. Kicked and R'd. This post really brought out the trolls, didn't it?
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 05:56 PM
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99. How did Obama get elected then? Was the election rigged?
:eyes: :eyes: :eyes:
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 05:58 PM
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101. rerun is starting now!!!!
Edited on Tue Aug-11-09 06:01 PM by spanone
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 06:01 PM
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103. If the country is so racist, why did Obama win with such a landslide?
:shrug:

Remember how Palin was trying to drum up the race issues during the campaign? She failed. It didn't bring out the nuts, it didn't shift the campaign conversation to race. It did nothing to diminish Obama's Hope and Change message that catapulted him into office.

Now all of a sudden this is about race?
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 06:05 PM
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107. obama won in spite of the racists....they are a minority...losing brings out the nuts
Edited on Tue Aug-11-09 06:20 PM by spanone
not 'all of a sudden'
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 06:17 PM
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110. Deleted message
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 06:41 PM
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115. We can racists and still get a black man elected
Edited on Tue Aug-11-09 06:42 PM by LynneSin
Remember, McCain did get 45% of the votes (give or take). Who do you think voted for him? This isn't the majority of America but they exist.
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Seldona Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 05:58 PM
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100. Truth.
Good to see someone in the MSM besides Rachael and Keith calling this for what it is. A bunch of people who will never accept a black man as President.

That's why all the facts, contradictions in their positions, etc, in the world won't convince them. Because their protests have nothing to do with their stated intent. They are just run of the mill, pos, racists. That or completely ignorant. Both most likely.
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neuvocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 06:22 PM
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111. I gotta give him props for that.
Awfully brave thing to say right now.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 06:39 PM
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113. Thank you Captain Obvious
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Iwillnevergiveup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 06:51 PM
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119. Rec #85
There it is.
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kelliebrat Donating Member (162 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 07:00 PM
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121. K & R
:fistbump:
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 07:04 PM
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122. I disagree, it is about having a President that is smart
and won the votes they thought they owned.

And, they thought they could steal the election again.

Now it is sinking in and they are acting like Clowns.

Until now they thought they owned America and now they can feel it slipping away and this is their Last Stand.

This President could be any color and they would still act this crazy. It was only a matter of time.
And... there are no leaders other than Rush and Rove.

Before they had leaders that had some form of peace and quiet about them -- not now. Even GW had mellowed out from his jack Daniels in the last go round.

Can't imagine Gerald Ford or Richard Nixon validating this behavior.

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aikoaiko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 07:06 PM
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124. Do any of you really think the response would have been different if Hillary had been elected


and proposed this new health care reform?

This is the same attack the CLintons endured, but more organized at the lower level.
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Hansel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 08:54 PM
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144. Yes. It would have been about sexism.
It wasn't Bill they attacked last time around. It was Hillary. Why? Because they could use sexism to motivate the sexists on the right to go out and make asses of themselves. If you missed that you weren't paying attention.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 06:31 AM
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168. This is a key point.
Just as they recruited haters by sexists with Hillary the have recruited and exploited the hatred of racists this time around. It is very unlikely that the insurance industry is driven by racism but they are using it to achieve their ends.
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misanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 01:38 PM
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191. There's a far more visceral aspect to these protesters...
...You could see it at the Tea Parties in April. The fact that it has increased as Obama has shown his adherence to the status quo tells you all you need to know about its origins.
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CLANG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 07:22 PM
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126. That appears to be the lowest common denominator
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pitchforksandtorches Donating Member (288 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 07:22 PM
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127. Fleet = M O R A N
can I have a slice of pizza?
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It Cant Just Be Me Donating Member (41 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 08:09 PM
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131. Join in tonight Spanone
Hey Spanone,

Join in tonight at 10pmCT on www.blogtalkradio.com/EadyMedia
as I talk "Healthcare Scare." This is aggressive progressive talk
unlike you've ever heard. Call in's are more than welcomed.

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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 08:10 PM
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132. .
Edited on Tue Aug-11-09 08:17 PM by spanone
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 08:33 PM
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137. K & R !
for Tweety....when he gets it right.
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 08:41 PM
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140. wall street urinal
:spray:
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 09:44 PM
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150. k & R
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JustABozoOnThisBus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 06:26 AM
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167. Bah! Think they'd be quiet if HRC was prez?
Or Edwards, or Kucinich?

Nope. Rude and polarized, that seems to be the political scene today. If only Dems would get a little bit "rude and polarized" and quit trying to appease the Republicans, maybe we'd get something meaningful done.

"Race" is just a little icing on their cake.

:hi:
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deacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 07:23 AM
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170. This is not hard to figure out. It's all about a black president. Any excuse to lash out.
The MSM could flatten them and the GOP bastids behind this, but they won't.
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 07:38 AM
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171. There will be no flattening. The M$M and the GOP bastids take their marching orders--
Edited on Wed Aug-12-09 07:41 AM by Raster
--and receive their paychecks--from the same plutocracy. The plutocracy senses a great danger to itself. It will use any and every tool and trick to maintain its status quo and inhibit free speech and thoughtful interaction of ideas. First in its arsenal is FEAR. Meme-control "PR firms" skilled in manipulating crowdthought and the herd mentality are using the "fear markers" planted in our American society.

The first fear marker is race. There has been a concerted effort to keep certain racial fires burning and to provide succor to those that feed them. No one should be surprised at the squalid backlash against the first lawfully and legally elected person of color to ever sit in the White House. This is exactly the "contingency" that has been planned for.

The second fear marker is poverty. The homeless at every major corner in every major city send a appallingly profound message to everyone. You could be here too.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 07:39 AM
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172. That became clear to me watching the Daily Show
I had read it and I had felt it but it only dawned on my watching Stewart show the piece where the morons claimed they were afraid of Obama.

:wtf: was all I could think!
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 08:28 AM
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173. He is correct but this is also a RW criticism of Obama...his race makes him too "devisive".
So I would be careful what you rate up at DU.
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W_HAMILTON Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 08:42 AM
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174. I don't believe it's a race thing.
Don't get me wrong, a lot of these Republican wackos ARE racist.

But they would be pulling this shit even if it was a white Democrat as our president.

This is what Fox News has been cultivating for years. And now we finally see it, because Democrats are back in power.

They are going to be fucking insane, regardless of the color of our president's skin. It's because he's a Democrat.
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Veruca Salt Donating Member (846 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 09:20 AM
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175. kick & rec!
about damn time!
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 09:26 AM
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177. where oh where is fleet?
Edited on Wed Aug-12-09 10:08 AM by spanone
profile gone
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agentS Donating Member (922 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 09:27 AM
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178. It's not like DU members didn't see this coming
Those of us who followed the election in 08 kinda knew that the racists in America would be blasted out of their hide-holes the moment Obama or any other minority in the race would win (Obama wasn't the only black or minority in the race- the other parties fielded minority candidates, except the GOP and the racist parties. That should tell conservatives something).

Gee Tweety- maybe you should get out of the Beltway more...
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boris the spider Donating Member (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 09:29 AM
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179. Bull to the SHIT!
What short memories we have! No one remembers Hillary getting raked over the coals in '93, the 'revolution' in 1994, and all that mess with Whitewater and Monica to follow?

I will admit that these people don't want to subsidize 'lazy bums' (according to what they think of poor people, even though they are in the same boat, even if they have jobs now!)
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 09:34 AM
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181. bullshit.....this is beyond hillary. there were no weeping 'citizens' over hillary's proposals
no one crying they want their country back
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yoyossarian Donating Member (821 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 09:59 AM
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182. never mind...
Edited on Wed Aug-12-09 10:01 AM by yoyossarian



Great tee-shirts, buttons and such at
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President Evil Online
has risen from the grave!
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Epiphany4z Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 10:12 AM
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183. I think it is part of it
First it is because Dems are in control and they just spent 8 years calling us commie,traitor,terrorist,nazi appeasers..who should be obliterated.......feeding the nuts of party hate and fear like candy ...first it is because Dems are in control ...the fact that it is a black Dem is just the icing on the cake that is making the nut jobs just that much more crazy...
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newtothegame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 10:38 AM
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184. I realize that's convenient b/c then we can call them racists and just end the debate right there...
But perhaps we can delve a little deeper into what is causing this issue? Taking the shortcut or easy way out will just allow the problem to come up again in the future.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 10:41 AM
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185. no shortcut, no easy way out. it's just a statement of fact.
this problem will come up as long as people have different colors and people believe their color is superior
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 01:39 PM
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192. Convenience has nothing to do with it
If you don't know that racism is alive and thriving in this country, you need to pull your head out of the sand.
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Rebubula Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 12:12 PM
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187. I would agree...
....except that these same people were fighting Clinton and Carter tooth and nail on every topic. There were no 'TownHall' meetings to express displeasure and ignorance in those days.

Is race an issue for some of these people? Of course. However, to start portraying every protester as simply being a racist is simply as ignorant as they are.

We cannot start labeling those against the policies of the Obama administration as racist in primary motivation. It lessens the argument by trying to stifle it.



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Joe Fields Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 01:43 PM
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194. That's because it IS about race, and the redneck kooks are coming out
of the woodwork like cockroaches, peeing themselves, spewing hate, couched in terms like "socialist." But they aren't fooling anyone really. Matthews called it right. It's quite obvious, and the shitpot stirrers know it and they know just what buttons to push, when dealing with their knuckle-dragging base of support.
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Libertas1776 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 01:48 PM
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197. DING DING DING DING DING!!!
We have a winner! Tell 'em what he's won Johnny.
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windoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 03:44 PM
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202. There is a core group of hardcore racist white supremacists
and the rest of them are racist but would not act out unless they feel safe in numbers. The GOP is biting the dust, the country is in dire straights, and many people are angry and truly afraid. They are being encouraged to channel this anger in very destructive ways. It is the last card to be played by the far right, Divide and Conquer, and it is working well with these people.

Extremist hate media personalities are being given airtime, which is actually dangerous for the country, and for the President. They whip these angry and frustrated (and mostly uneducated) people into a frenzy, which is actually not hard to do.

Hate radio is encouraging hate violence, which is against the law. I do not think this is covered under freedom of speech. Aren't death threats against the law?

As far as freedom to carry a gun, I wonder who would have carried a gun that freely right after the patriot act was enacted? Who would have felt that ballsy to openly carry a gun when we were looking for domestic terrorists that were foreign? Would a Hispanic American or African American, or gods forbid, a Middle Eastern American openly carry a gun, they would never be seen again in the light of day, and we all know it.

I tell everyone I come across on the right that anyone turning American against American is suspect of being part of the problem. I tell them that the President doesn't have that much power anyway these days, that it is another power that is running things these days, and unless and until the citizenry gets a clue we will be continue to be robbed by them. Some of them actually listen.
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stranger81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 12:27 AM
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205. Carlos Watson has been saying this in the mornings, too, on MSNBC.
I think the producers let them all off the leash. Hallelujah for that.
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