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Pharaoh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 03:01 PM
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Russia: U.S. still preparing cruise missile strike on Iran
Edited on Wed Apr-11-07 04:23 PM by newyawker99
MOSCOW — The United States is planning to launch a war with Iran with a salvo of cruise missiles against military and other strategic facilities, a Russian official said.


A leading Russian analyst close to the government of President Vladimir Putin said the Bush administration has been preparing a major air strike against Iran. The analyst said the Iranian release of 15 British Marines abducted in early April has hampered but not canceled U.S. attack plans.

"Preparations to strike Iran's strategic facilities continue," Col. Gen. Leonid Ivashov, president of the Academy for Geopolitical Problems, said. "Three major groups of U.S. forces are still in the Arabian Sea and the Persian Gulf. Altogether, they have up to 450 cruise missiles on alert."



The assessment was the latest by government-financed Russian military analysts that warned of a U.S. war against Iran. Over the last two weeks, some analysts have raised the prospect of a U.S. air strike over the next few weeks.

"Combat nuclear weapons may be used for bombing," Ivashov said. "This will result in radioactive contamination of the Iranian territory, which could possibly spread to neighboring countries."

On April 8, Ivashov, who heads a government think tank, told the Interfax-AVN news agency that the U.S. Navy would be the lead service in the military campaign against Iran. He said the attack would begin with a salvo of advanced cruise missiles.


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http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtribune/07/front2454202.046527778.html

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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 03:04 PM
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1. I'd believe it if they weren't working with this administration to resurrect the Cold War. - n/t
Edited on Wed Apr-11-07 03:04 PM by porphyrian
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 03:04 PM
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2. So much for the underlying theory of M.A.D.
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Strelnikov_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 03:05 PM
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3. And Russia exports what?
Oh, thats right.

Nothing like a fear premium to strengthen the bottom line.

+++

Top World Oil Net Exporters, 2005

Saudi Arabia 9.1
Russia 6.7
Norway 2.7
Iran 2.6
United Arab Emirates 2.4
Nigeria 2.3
Kuwait 2.3
Venezuela 2.2
Algeria 1.8
Mexico 1.7
Libya 1.5
Iraq 1.3
Angola 1.2
Kazakhstan 1.1
Qatar 1.0

=====

Above represents 39.9 Mbbl/dy of 42 Mbbl/dy world export market

18.7 Mbbl/dy of above in Persian Gulf region
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NormanYorkstein Donating Member (762 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 03:06 PM
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4. chilling
we should impeach Bush immediately.
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 03:11 PM
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9. The Only Thing Chilling About This, Sir
Is that people can still be found to believe these fiction artistes. Never once have their predictions been borne out by events. Psychic hot-lines have a better record for accuracy....
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 03:36 PM
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19. Bingo, yer' honor.
Wasn't it the Russian websites that were just running articles about a...what...6 April attack by the US on Iran? I guess I missed all the boomboom or something.

Of course, they were running those articles next to their usual fare, like Russian research that shows you can increase psychokinetic abilities by pounding 18 penny spikes up your nose with a hand sledge. Sober and measured reportage like that.

The oil import percentages and "the fear premium" answers a lot of questions as to why this stuff gets published, thirteen to the dozen.
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NormanYorkstein Donating Member (762 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 04:32 PM
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24. A Russian official rattling sabers
There is a lot of that lately. I hope it blows over but bad things happen.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 03:06 PM
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5. Wolf...I cry WOLF...WOLF!!! WOLF!!! DAMMIT!!!!!
Yeah, yeah, of course there IS a wolf that's eaten the sheep, but you know...
at this point after so many alarms, no one is gonna get excited until they SEE the wolf.

And then, well, it's just too damned late.

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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 03:08 PM
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6. The April 6 Fellows, Sir, At It Again, Are They?
These people have less credibilty by now than old Joe Izuzu....
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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 03:09 PM
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8. Shhhh! That's crazy talk! nt
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Pharaoh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 03:15 PM
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13. Yeah well we needed another
Bush is about To Attack Iran thread just because we can :rofl:

And besides, that fucker is just batshit crazy enough to do it,

God told him to do it you know :hide:
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Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 03:25 PM
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15. Cup of Joe
Hey dont be pickin on Joe!!!! :rofl: :bounce:


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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 03:08 PM
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7. Scary, but Bush is too weak now.
I think he desperately wants to do it, but he can't.
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 03:12 PM
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10. Bushco were itching to
buzz the Revolutionary guards with warplanes during the British captives crisis. If the Iranians had shot one down - there's your casus belli.

Luckily Blair said no and Aheminajad released the captives before things escalated.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 03:12 PM
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11. do they have any specific intel that is not commonly posted here???
Seems to be just a bunch of hypotheticals that anyone on the web could write with public knowledge out there.
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ruiner4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 03:13 PM
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12. Just post a "US to strike Iran Next Week" thread every week till (if) it comes true...
Edited on Wed Apr-11-07 03:14 PM by ruiner4u
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Parisle Donating Member (849 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 03:29 PM
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17. Arguing about the "date" is irrelevant,... they've got 18 months.
--- I don't think anyone here doubts that Bush is one hardheaded SOB. And we only speculate about what the PNAC gameplan was,..... we surmise that it was to launch multiple wars which would set the US up as planetary master,... and we spend way too much time attributing individual motives to "greed." This may be the last shot of the corporatist elite to stave off the inevitable socialization of the US economy,... They are playing "chicken" with the rest of the world,.. and since they won't be doing the fighting (just reaping the profits).. who knows how far they'll push it? It's a close call,... but I expect an attack on Iran before the Bush administration is done. The democrats have to find a way to prevent it.
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 03:33 PM
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18. 18 months is a gigantic window.
At this point, I think the US would lose far more than it would gain by hitting Iran. I would think most corporatists would be against this, as such a war would impact the bottom line. Why? Gas prices would shoot up and wreck the economy. You don't kill the goose that lays the golden eggs, but you might do so if you're an ideologue who holds to blind faith in your ideology even in the face of reason.
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 03:38 PM
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21. Great idea.
It'll give Grovelbot something to do during the off-season.
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 03:21 PM
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14. We have enough firepower on station to flatten Iran's air defenses right now.
Edited on Wed Apr-11-07 03:23 PM by Selatius
There are two aircraft carriers in the Indian Ocean right now, with a multitude of escort vessels. There's probably a large number of cruise missiles on these ships.

Then we have probably several hundred warplanes in the region, and we have heavy bombers stationed at Diego Garcia in the Indian Ocean.

I am pretty certain there is enough firepower there that Bush could have an air war within 24 hours if he gave the order, but he can't just decide to hit Iran.

He has no excuse or any valid justification to start a war because it is likely if Bush did start military action, he would put himself in danger of being prosecuted for the supreme war crime of a "crime against the peace."

In fact, being prosecuted for crimes against the peace incurs the harshest penalty under international law, because that action would necessarily allow other war crimes to be committed during the commissioning of hostilities.
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nebenaube Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 04:31 PM
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23. uh.... hello! anybody home? hello! n/t
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 05:24 PM
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25. Hello, what? What are you aiming at? n/t
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nebenaube Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-13-07 11:38 AM
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30. He's already guilty of crimes against peace.
Preemptive war is aggression, has been since Mussolini was hanging on a meat hook.
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Solo_in_MD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 07:41 PM
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27. But your forgot the almighty Sunburn that will sink all of the US ships, first time every time
:sarcasm: if that wasn't obvious...the tags don't work in the titles.

Iran has recently made operational the latest Russian export model SAMs. They have also been building an IADS. The US demonstrated quite convinvely a few years back that you get chopped to pieces without one. The Russians and their Iranian clients watched the roll into Iraq with intense interest, and should have learned a thing or two. If the primary language of the air defense operators is Russian, it could be a bloody fight.

The US would win the air battle in the end, the question would be how long and at what cost.
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HuffleClaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 03:25 PM
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16. i don't see how they can mount a 'suprise attack'
they'll need a PUBLIC 'justification' for war first.
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Parisle Donating Member (849 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 03:37 PM
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20. I'm sure this would be way out of line,...
--- But I hope the democrats are having some very private contacts with the Pentagon about this. Bush has totally squandered his CIC authority,... and the Pentagon must realize it. They've got to throw some sort of speedbump into the process,... so that this doesn't just happen while we're all asleep.
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kimmerspixelated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 04:30 PM
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22. This story doesn't want to go away.
When I first heard about it, I was a bit unsettled, or maybe a lot, unsettled, but even given all the logical points that definitely slash the idea, and the illogical points that make you think, "I wouldn't put it past them," there's one thing that's true: We, the people are watching. They can't fool us this time, because we're on to their imperialistic games. We, of the world, are watching them as well. And most significantly, Iran is watching! It's hard to surprise a country when all eyes are wide open.
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Pharaoh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 06:48 PM
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26. The thing is with cruise missiles
you don't really need suprise cause there's no way to stop them.
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Solo_in_MD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 07:42 PM
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28. Thats not exactly true either
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Raskolnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 08:19 PM
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29. Its almost as if Russia has some sort of financial interest in maintaining tensions
I wonder if their newfound energy wealth has anything to do with that?
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