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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 02:58 PM
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When was the last time you saw a press conference of Black men
Edited on Wed Apr-11-07 03:00 PM by Gman
that were exonerated of rape? When was the last time their press conference was done with a dais and with all the national media there? When was the last time anyone asked these Black men for their comments and "feelings" on being exonerated? When was the last time this group of men was applauded when they were introduced?

Hmmmm... never happened. Never will. If Black men are exonerated, it is done in a quiet manner, no apology, no comment, no damages paid for time in prison, nothing.
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Burma Jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 03:00 PM
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1. Wasn't some NBA player exonorated recently????
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tcfrogs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 03:00 PM
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2. Kobe Bryant
:shrug:
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 03:12 PM
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7. Exactly.
Sometimes we get carried away with the "white guilt" schtick.
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 03:24 PM
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12. Kobe was never exonerated
The accuser refused to testify & Kobe paid her off out of court (the amount was never released).
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 03:24 PM
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13. The charges were dropped. Lack of evidence.
Same as with this case.
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tcfrogs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 03:26 PM
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15. Thanks, beat me to it
Essentially the cases ended the same way.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 03:44 PM
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21. last time I looked, Kobe was "one" man
just saying.........
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tcfrogs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 03:47 PM
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24. Noted n/t
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-13-07 03:07 AM
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41. A rich and famous one
Those folks get endless second chances regardless of race, creed or color. To know what's really going on, you have to look at the non-famous.
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 03:49 PM
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25. When they pay off their accuser, then the cases would have ended the same way
n/t
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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 09:56 PM
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36. You mean Kobe was exonerated with a press conference and all the talking heads fell over themselves?
Where all the talking heads applauded him and then brought people on
panels on their daily talk shows in order to grill them on "why they
went after Kobe Bryant" and "whether they had a racial bias of some sort"?

No. Because it didn't happen.
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 03:34 PM
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17. The charges were dropped after the accuser refused to testify
It's not the same as this case, unless the Duke players paid off the accuser? :shrug:
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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 09:59 PM
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38. So the Duke players are really innocent, and Kobe is really guilty?
:shrug:
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 06:07 AM
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40. Maybe?
:shrug: Just sayin', these cases aren't comparable.
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cgrindley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 03:52 PM
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28. I believe the term is "settled out of court"
which I suppose could also be read as "paid her off".
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rfranklin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 03:00 PM
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3. Their parents must be so proud...they hire strippers to dance...
around naked while they slobber (or maybe more.)
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 03:20 PM
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10. Good call. Way to find the context for the moment.
Here we have three young men whose lives were totally turned upside down for 12 full months because a white DA was running for re-election against an African-American woman in a predominantly African-American community, and he needed votes. So, he found himself a show trial. And what a show it was:

  • Press conferences galore.
  • Declaring that these students were "rich white boys" who thought they could get away with anything.
  • Manipulating the witnesses.
  • Ignoring the complete impossibility of one of the accused being present during the alleged rape.
  • Big photo ops of these young men in handcuffs.
  • Emptying the dorms with much pageantry as they made searches of ALL rooms.
  • More press conferences
  • The arrival of the Black Panthers on campus "to make a statement to these rich white kids"
  • Suppressing data and information.

And until you find a way to make hiring of stripper illegal, I suggest you and Jerry Falwell start picking out curtains; but, your moral supremacy bullshit won't fly around here.
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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 10:00 PM
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39. The Black Panthers aren't allowed to arrive on campus?
:shrug:
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 03:25 PM
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14. Here's a little something just for you:


Maybe you and Dennis Draughton can tour the countryside on a New Carrie Nation jaunt -- educating the citizens about the evils of drink and pleasures of the flesh.
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sharp_stick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 03:35 PM
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18. Yup, but they didn't rape her n/t
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 03:03 PM
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4. K&R
Your edit is appropriate. I've seen some interviews with black men who were let out of jail after being found innocent of crimes. But never with nationally covered press conferences. I wonder how soon the movie deal will be made?
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 03:03 PM
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5. Never happened?
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Dora Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 03:03 PM
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6. Several black men have been released from prison in TX recently.
These men were found guilty, imprisoned, and recently exonerated on the basis of DNA evidence. You're right - their exoneration has come quietly, without apology or comment, or not enough for my tastes.

The Innocence Project is a wonderful thing.

http://www.innocenceproject.org/Content/500.php
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 03:13 PM
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8.  I think it is the Fox news style playing out every place.
I will tell you no one in their right mind used to be seen reading the trash papers and now it is in our living room. Times change so I do not think you can do an thing about it. Trash news and real news are now one and it is more fun too read about the trash than what is really going on in the world.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 03:13 PM
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9. Sorry, that argument doesn't work. nt
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 03:31 PM
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16. Certainly NOT!!!
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 03:23 PM
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11. Gman Gman Gman *tsk* *tsk* *tsk*
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 03:37 PM
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19. You got it
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 03:43 PM
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20. I feel sorry for the Duke players but remember
when a white woman drowned her toddlers in a lake over some love triangle and within minutes all of MSM repeated her accusations that a black man had kidnapped her children. I sure don't remember this outrage for all the innocent black men who were harrassed by the cops. At least some rich white boys now understand what black males experience over and over.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 03:47 PM
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23. same with the Bostonian who killed his pregnant wife
and blamed a black man.

I think his name was Charles Stewart - his brother turned him in.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 03:50 PM
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26. The thing is that I know of several cases
of black and white men who have been wrongfully imprisoned and even executed. One poor white man was executed for killing his kids in a fire and experts now say he never started the fire. The Innocence Project has shown me that many innocents are in prison so the Duke guys are very lucky they never even made prison.

Where the fugg was MSM when all these people wree wrongfully imprisoned.
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 03:56 PM
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30. I law firm I used to work for did work with the Innocence Project
We got one guy out on DNA evidence after he'd spent 25 years in jail for a crime he didn't commit (as an aside - he was a poor white guy).
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 04:01 PM
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32. That's my point
it's always poor men - black and white.
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 04:22 PM
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33. Exactly
His sister, a waitress, knew he was innocent. She put herself through college and then law school and then teamed with the Innocence Project to prove it. Unfortunately, he died in a freak accident 6 months after he was released :( But at least he was finally proven innocent. This just doesn't happen to wealthy people.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 04:52 PM
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34. Hopefully now these wrongly accused
rich white boys will become socially responsible and understand the plight of others.
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 09:49 PM
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35. Sounds like they are starting to get it:
LINK

Seligmann, 21, of Essex Fells, N.J., Finnerty, 20, of Garden City, N.Y., and Evans, 24, of Bethesda, Md., all come from well-to-do families. And after a year of living in a legal limbo, they questioned what their fate would be if they didn't come from privilege.

"This entire experience has opened my eyes up to a tragic world of injustice I never knew existed," Seligmann said.

"If police officers and a district attorney can systematically railroad us with absolutely no evidence whatsoever, I can't imagine what they would do to people do not have the resources to defend themselves."
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-13-07 03:10 AM
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42. Well, at least some good came out of it
A forced education in empathy.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 03:55 PM
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29. he blamed Willie Bennett, i will never forget that case as long as i live.
i lived in the same city as her parents. That was an outrage and so was the Susan Smith case-unforgivable.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 03:51 PM
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27. Huh? People were outraged at what Susan Smith did.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 04:00 PM
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31. Of course people were outraged
but who apologized to the black men in that town. I clearly missed that press conference. It is moments like that when leaders can destroy stereotypical views related to race. Instead typically for days the entire system believed the word of a crazy white woman because she pandered to their stereotypical views. It's easy to blame the black man. Way too easy.

Sadly some rich white boys now know how it feels to be wrongly accused by a crazy black woman but all of MSM are covering this one. No wonder the Imus' of this world believe they can say anything they want about black people.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 03:45 PM
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22. NEVER.
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 09:57 PM
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37. I guess these white boys should've gone to jail. Even if innocent.
Reparations, in a sense.

Gman, you are a bigot in your own way and you will have your own reward. Injustice to ANY of us is injustice to all.

Bake
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-13-07 03:11 AM
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43. Or, Gman is pointing out that equality is still a goal, not a done deal.
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