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MindPilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 01:33 PM
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Another rightwingnut email and my responses

Let’s try get past the bullshit talking points and sloganeering, shall we?
First off we do not have conservative and liberal parties; we have Republicans and Democrats, both of whom are beholden to the special interests which made the biggest donations to the campaign.

Not until the money is factored out and you and I have the same access to our representatives as the big lobbying firms can there actually be some governance by the people and for the people. You know to promote the general welfare and all of that.

Until then it is nothing more than a big political pissing contest and we are ones getting wet.

I’m going to go through this point by point.

Regards
--MP


WHY I'M A DEMOCRAT

I voted Democrat because I love the fact that I can now marry whatever I want. I've decided to marry my horse.

In most states you cannot marry whoever you want and certainly not whatever you want. There was a time-within our lifetimes--that interracial marriage was illegal, but we as a culture advance and evolve. Really, shouldn’t gays have the same right to a messy and expensive divorce as the rest us? And why do you want to marry your horse? You already OWN it!


I voted Democrat because I believe oil companies' profits of 4% on a gallon of gas are obscene but the government taxing the same gallon of gas at 15% isn't.

Nobody--except for the true hardcore communists and there are maybe about 27 of them in the entire country--has a problem with anyone making a profit. The issue is excessive profit, price gouging and profiteering. When CEO’s can walk away with millions upon millions after crashing the company and leaving their workers jobless, that’s a problem. And that tax? Those highways aren’t free; and trust me I would happily pay twice that if the government would actually spend that money on the highways.


I voted Democrat because I believe the government will do a better job of spending the money I earn than I would.

All this stuff we enjoy as Americans--our Interstate Highway system, our national defense, police and fire protection, our legal system, NASA, education, research, national parks, clean air, clean water, and all the infrastructure that supports a technologically advanced society--is not free. If you are going to live here, you have to help pay the rent.


I voted Democrat because freedom of speech is fine as long as nobody is offended by it.

No one has ever said anyone has the right to not be offended. And the fact is that liberals (ACLU?) historically have been the fervent defenders of free speech; it wasn’t a Democrat who said “Americans had better watch what they say”. It wasn’t Republicans who were confined to “free speech zones” during the last campaign.


I voted Democrat because when we pull out of Iraq I trust that the bad guys will stop what they're doing because they now think we're good people.

Actually they will since Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11, and the Iraqi people probably would be very happy to see us leave and quit bombing the shit out of their country. Look, I don’t think Arnie is the best governor California has ever had, but I would be REALLY mad if the Chinese army showed up uninvited to help oust him.


I voted Democrat because I'm way too irresponsible to own a gun, and I know that my local police are all I need to protect me from murderers and thieves.

You’d probably be surprised at the number of armed Democrats and you can count me among those numbers.


I voted Democrat because I believe that people who can't tell us if it will rain on Friday can tell us that the polar ice caps will melt away in ten years if I don't start driving a Prius.

That’s conflating climate and weather. Global warming is as real and fixed in science as gravity and evolution. I will try to explain the science real quick and easy. We all know that CO2 is a gas we breathe out and plants “breathe” in. It is a necessary component of life in the right concentration; the right amount of CO2 keeps the planet warm, but not too warm.
Now here’s the part that never gets explained: Most of the CO2 on the planet is locked up in the oceans, glacial ice, and the ground (fossil fuels). If I cut down a tree and burn it that of course releases CO2 into the air, but that’s OK because the CO2 in that wood was still part of the cycle; it was never locked up and we call that carbon-neutral.
However, if I dig up some coal or oil and burn it, I’m now unlocking the stored CO2 and putting it in the atmosphere increasing the concentration. If I do that enough, then the concentration increases to the point where there is overall warming which in turn begins to melt the glacial ice which releases more CO2 which increases the warming even more…and that’s where we are right now with the atmospheric concentration of CO2 being higher than it has ever been.


I voted Democrat because I'm not concerned about the slaughter of millions of babies so long as we keep all death row inmates alive.

If you don’t like abortion, don’t have one, and if you want to reduce abortions, make birth control easily available and teach realistic sex education.
I could just never get how you teach people that killing is wrong by killing the person who did the killing. Here in California it costs literally millions more to prosecute and sentence a death penalty case than it does for life-without-parole. The California Bar estimates that the death penalty costs the state an extra $140 million per year.


I voted Democrat because I believe that business should not be allowed to make profits for themselves. They need to break even and give the rest away to the government for redistribution as THEY see fit.

See number 2 and 3; businesses make an even greater use of the infrastructure, trucking, airlines, media, etc so shouldn’t they shoulder a bigger part of paying for it?


I voted Democrat because I believe liberal judges need to rewrite the Constitution every few days to suit some fringe kooks who would never get their agendas past the voters.

Gee and I always thought an Amendment to the Constitution required the ratification of at least two thirds of the states.
The very first thing my very first law professor said at the beginning of my very first class, “if you’re here looking for logic in the law, you are in the wrong room.”
He was also fond of saying “two people walk out of a courtroom; at least one of them is unhappy.”


I voted Democrat because my head is so firmly planted up my butt that it is unlikely that I'll ever have another point of view.

No, I voted Democrat because they are not quite as bad as Republicans, and if anyone seriously believes the Democrats truly represent liberalism, they are the ones with the cranial rectal inversion problem.

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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 01:39 PM
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1. Great responses ...
... well said! :patriot:
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MindPilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 01:41 PM
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2. Thank you!! Coming from you that means a lot!!
:patriot:
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 02:07 PM
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3. Nice
But damn, you have a lot of patience for that idiot!
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Xicano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 02:21 PM
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4. This one caught my eye a little more than the others.
I voted Democrat because I believe the government will do a better job of spending the money I earn than I would.

I voted republican because I believe the borrow & spend republicans out spend the tax & spend democrats and the government will do a better job of spending the money I earn than I would. Besides, its better to go into debt on the interest from all that borrowing my republican leaders do as opposed to a balanced budget.

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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 04:24 PM
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5. Who Writes This Shit For Them
the same 3 guys - they all sound the same.
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MindPilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-10-09 05:45 AM
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8. Yeah, you're right and the other thing I notice...
have you ever seen a Democratic/Liberal/Progressive viral email? Me neither.
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 04:40 PM
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6. Excellent! K&R
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Kalyke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 04:43 PM
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7. Good responses.
Also, tell the writer for me that I'm a Democrat and a staunch liberal and I wouldn't own a Toyota anything even if you paid me.

:hi:
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Milspec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-10-09 06:11 AM
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9. outstanding K & R
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