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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 10:29 AM
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Brewster Jennings was outed three years before Valerie Plame?!
Edited on Sun Aug-09-09 10:34 AM by kpete
Second, I asked about the "real" story on Brewster Jennings, as opposed to the "crap...from the media" as she mentioned at the venue.

"Basically," she said, "I told them how Marc Grossman disclosed" that Brewster Jennings was a CIA front company to the target of an FBI investigation. "And it was under oath and that some lives may have been lost."

"Novak has nothing to do with it. Wilson has nothing to do with it. Valerie Plame has nothing to do with it. The whole operation has to do with something totally different and it had to do with the American Turkish Council and the Turkish clients who were about to hire Brewster Jennings as an analyst ... and Grossman found out about it, and tipped off his diplomatic contact who was a target of the FBI counter-intelligence, and that person notified the ISI , etc."

She says that Brewster Jenning was then "dismantled as soon as the FBI notified the CIA," after which "FBI requested CIA to do a damage assessment, to see if lives would be lost."

All of this, she re-iterated, was "long before, three years before," Novak outed Valerie Plame as a CIA operative in his newspaper column.

Brewster Jennings was "absolutely" dismantled in August of 2001.

more:
http://www.bradblog.com/?p=7347

How does what Sibel say about Brewster Jennings cover being destroyed and the CIA front dismantled well before the Plame affair square with Fitzgerald’s prosecution? According to Sibel, there logically should have been nothing to prosecute. Brewster Jennings was kaput; it no longer existed after August 2001 (and before 9/11). So what has been going on here? I think Sibel has but one piece of the whole puzzle. No one can really understand the whole picture until a number of other players voluntarily come forward, or are subpoenaed to testify, to address some apparent criminal activities that have occurred.
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noise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 10:33 AM
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1. So one must ask the obvious question
Was the Fitzgerald saga theater? It sure didn't seem to amount to anything.
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JeanGrey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-10-09 08:02 AM
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30. Sure it was.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-10-09 03:36 PM
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47. Agree . . .
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 10:38 AM
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2. Regardless, Plame was covert.
And if classified information is compromised, that does not automatically convey authorization to disclose it.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 10:45 AM
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3. Coincidentally at the same time as the famed PDB.
:think:
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noise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 10:45 AM
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4. Edmonds' testimony
does track with Peter Lance's research on Patrick Fitzgerald. Lance writes about Fitzgerald's odd conduct in relation to "triple agent" Ali Mohamed. Meaning that Fitzgerald seems to be a player in "deep state" machinations.

I know that many people have differentiated between the BJ and Plame outings but it shouldn't have been difficult to ID CIA officials by way of the BJ association (i.e. Plame works at BJ so if BJ is CIA then Plame is CIA).
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 10:49 AM
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5. I'd love to hear Valerie Plame's take on this. nt
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OnceUponTimeOnTheNet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 11:34 AM
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13. And Judith Miller's also. She was thrown in the clink for awhile there.
I can't find a full copy of that Aspen tree leaves letter Scooter sent her.

Anyone?
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tiptoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 01:05 PM
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24. Here:
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Frustratedlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 12:14 PM
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21. Is Valerie gagged or just not being allowed to testify in a court of law?
Edited on Sun Aug-09-09 12:14 PM by Frustratedlady
I know the case has been thrown out of court, but somewhere along the line, I'd think she'd be allowed to tell her side...unless it is due to her CIA connection only.

It would be interesting to have Sibel and Valerie compare notes.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-10-09 09:56 AM
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34. One thing that
stands out, in the context of Ms. Plame's ability to speak out, is found in the numerous "blacked out" pages of her book. The Agency restricts her ability to communicate the truth about a lot of issues, including BJ and the OVP campaign against her and her husband.
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Sanity Claws Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 11:09 AM
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6. Odd
Could it be that the FBI notified the CIA, as Sibel said, but the CIA chose not to shut down BJ? She worked for the FBI, right? She wouldn't be privy to what the CIA actually did.
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-10-09 07:23 AM
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28. No link but I think there is a movie pending.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-10-09 02:36 PM
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44. head of FBI is Robert Mueller who also helped Poppy Bush cover up and stonewall BCCI matters
Edited on Mon Aug-10-09 02:55 PM by blm
while he was Asst. Attorney General. William Weld was the US attorney working on BCCI but was really involved in protecting Poppy Bush and all the principal players.

BTW - Clinton wanted to endorse his good friend Weld over Kerry in 1996, but, after the debates when Kerry took a significant lead, he begrudgingly supported Kerry. In his book Bill claims he did it because Kerry was valuable on technology matters. Not one word EVER from Bill about Kerry's true value and massive creds on exposing government corruption and global terror networks and their funding. Had plenty of praise for his pal, Weld, though.

Here's an excerpt from a BCCI book recalling Nightline program on BCCI with Mueller cornered.

http://books.google.com/books?id=M_vkgRD3QwwC&pg=PA119&lpg=PA119&dq=BCCI+Robert+Mueller&source=bl&ots=gR97wVQZ9T&sig=InzP9sx_gqGfvEQ5T7kAZYhFCoQ&hl=en&ei=53aASpymHIKBtwf7g_XoAQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2#v=onepage&q=BCCI%20Robert%20Mueller&f=false
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 11:18 AM
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7. I've been digesting this too. I believe this only strengthens the case against Bush/Cheney.
Edited on Sun Aug-09-09 11:20 AM by Gregorian
It doesn't weaken the case against revealing a CIA agent's identity. It strengthens the case that Bush/Cheney et al, wanted to have their "New Pearl Harbor". They ignored the August 6th PDB, they killed Brewster Jennings, they outted Plame. And who knows what else they did that we haven't discovered.



This was all part of a highly concerted and engineered effort to have their war. We can not ignore this, as it appears we are doing.
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Frustratedlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 11:22 AM
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8. My first thought when I read that last night, was...Cheney had a front to work from...
Maybe I'm obscessed with Cheney, but I still think he was doing some dirty work behind the scenes (or, from his cave) and controlling covert operations in the Mideast.

I believe CIA is Cheney's Intelligence Agency.

Just sayin'.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 11:33 AM
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12. Cheney is a tool, not the mastermind.
Don't let his evil smirk and fondness for black fedoras throw you.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 01:10 PM
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25. who does he work for?
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 10:50 PM
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26. His investors.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-10-09 12:44 AM
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27. who are?
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-10-09 09:56 AM
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35. Who has hired (invested in) Cheney throughout his entire career?
I know you don't really think Cheney is the "mastermind".
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-10-09 07:34 AM
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29. BFEE and Dubai/Saudi royals....ALL of this tracks to BCCI, AQ Khan and funding of global terrorism.
If they were going to LET a 9-11 happen, they would want a Brewster Jennings dismantled, wouldn't they?
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-10-09 10:06 AM
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36. Have you read Russ Baker's Family of Secrets yet?
I haven't yet but I've heard him speak. He thinks the Bushes, while deeply involved, very high up and incredibly well rewarded, are just the face of the BFEE.
Not that that makes them any less evil, just not the sole source of the problem.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-10-09 11:56 AM
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38. I know. Bushes have been key to SERVICING the fascist agenda...a few powerful Dems service that
agenda, too. But, you can track that agenda through the Bush family and you can't ignore Bill Clinton's role the last 20 years, either. That BCCI report didn't deepsix itself, and what DID Bill do to bank 20 million from Dubai last year? Nothing worth 20 mil....looks more like they've been lining his bank account since he left office. Delayed payola for looking the other way on BCCI matters and AQ Khan network?

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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-10-09 04:03 PM
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48. It would take volumes to document all the villians and their acts.
I would love to see all the dots connected. I think people are sick to death of the smoke and mirrors and table scraps.

Fortunately, there are some really good authors out there doing their best. What I would really like to see are some financial forensic accountants on the case as well, with some serious DOJ investigators right behind them. And by serious I mean non-bush appointed.
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-10-09 01:52 PM
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41. What's up with AQ Khan...

even last year he was STILL considered a threat in providing small nuclear warheads to Iran. Is our own "deep state" helping him?

http://www.pakistanlink.com/Headlines/June08/27/11.htm
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-10-09 02:07 PM
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42. they always have......Bhutto was assassinated after she said she'd turn Khan over to
Edited on Mon Aug-10-09 02:07 PM by blm
investigators. Khan mysteriously 'turned himself in' to friendly Pakistani officials in Feb2004 when it became apparent Kerry was the nominee, thereby assuring that Kerry couldn't use Khan against Bush. Khan was given generous leeway while under vacation, I mean arrest....and he was granted walking papers the same day Libby was commuted by Bush, and no media was interested in Khan's situation.....imagine that.
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-10-09 02:28 PM
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43. Recall the Tinner Case...

http://dandelionsalad.wordpress.com/2008/06/06/sibel-edmonds-case-more-destruction-of-evidence-re-nuclear-black-market/

...

In Sibel’s case, the FBI watched while the network delivered nuclear product not only to their acknowledged end-customers, but also while freelancers within the network made copies of the information stolen “from every nuclear agency in the United States” and sold it to the highest bidder. There’s no indication that the US government did anything to stop the flow of any of this information at the time, but rather went to extraordinary lengths to ensure that Sibel’s knowledge of these events did not become public. Similarly, people at the Pentagon and State Department were able to ensure that the honest counterintelligence agents at the FBI were prevented from moving forward on any of their multi-year investigations that had discovered all of these nefarious activities.

After all this, we are now being asked to believe that the destruction of evidence in the Tinner case is to prevent secure information from getting in the hands of terrorists? Please.

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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-10-09 02:48 PM
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45. I know....what a crock.....and some here at DU even believe the official lies, I mean lines.
.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 11:22 AM
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9. Mr. Fitzgerald's
investigation was based upon members of the Bush White House exposing Valerie Plame's identity as a NOC. It was not based upon BJ.
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noise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 11:29 AM
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10. In a legal sense that is applicable
In a real world damage sense it appears Grossman's leak was the bigger deal as any CIA employees using BJ as a front were exposed to Grossman's source.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 11:32 AM
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11. Since Mr. Fitzgerald's
investigation was focused on the very real world outing of a specific NOC, it made no difference if other events were a bigger deal or not.
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noise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 11:40 AM
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14. The defense could have made the case that the NOC
was effectively outed years earlier.

At the end of the day nobody was charged with outing a NOC. Instead Libby was charged with lying and obstructing a leak investigation.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 11:42 AM
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15. Nope.
It's not up to the OVP to designate the status of a NOC.
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noise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 11:50 AM
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17. I'm not defending Libby/Cheney
The point is that Edmonds' account changes the context of the Plame story.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 11:51 AM
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18. It does,
for sure. It also sheds more light on why the Cheney/Libby forces were pushing the "she's not a NOC" in so many of their defense filings.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 09:30 AM
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49. I noticed that, too, Waterman.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-10-09 08:45 AM
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32. You are correct. Plame was still an NOC. It made no difference
whatsoever what Grossman, Cohen, or any others had done to damage Brewster Jennings in regards to the Turks or the Azerbaijanis.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 11:45 AM
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16. Interesting thread on this from January 2008
Edited on Sun Aug-09-09 11:48 AM by glitch
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 11:58 AM
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19. wow thanks for that link-missed or didn't recall that.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-10-09 10:11 AM
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37. Thanks....worth the read to refresh memory.
It's getting so complicated, its hard to remember the different pieces.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 12:03 PM
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20. It can be all we said it was, only the clock is different. Reason to close it down in 2001 - stop
Edited on Sun Aug-09-09 12:15 PM by peacetalksforall
data gathering on nuclear trade where Cheney and Khan were involved. We have already read about Israel and Turkey being involved in the nuclear technology and equipment industry and who had which role.

Later, when the outing exploded, everyone said it was about revenge against Joe Wilson who wrote that Iraq was not buying yellowcake in Niger dispelling the Michael Ludeen coordinated lying letter that Italy was also involved in. It was that also.

It's both.

The 2001 outing by Grossman was pretty much covered up.

The Plame outing hit the fan.

It would make sense that no one would talk about what Plame was doing from 2001 to the outing - at least that much of secrecy for CIA dealings was kept secret?

I think it is easy to believe what was said yesterday by Edmonds.

Sidepoint: Is is tragic that everyone believes that the war going on in the Middle East between Isreal and Moslem neighbors when for decades, Israel has partnered with Turkey and Iran of espionage and trade.

In the public eye this is about a war the U.S. declared on all Moslems with side-kicks in the UK, some countries on the European continent, plus Canada and Australia also to some extent. In reality, we're learning that the grand per cent of operatives running a grand chunk of the show and the war were all pumping for Israel (also coming out yesterday). It is one of my really troubling thoughts that we took sides and didn't treat people equally - just the Moslems of the Saudi family, Turkey, various leaders like Pakistan.

It is becoming easier to see that barons are running the show. Cheney is a major player - but, he didn't call the shots - they just needed the heartless likes of Rumsfeld and Cheney to carry it out. I hope it all comes out. This 'ain't' no set of disparate intelligence divisions, military, hit squads - they have used everybody and especially the little people - our minds 9-11, dut tape, ultra hate and suspicion of Moslems - evenones who have lived here as citizens for 50 years or more ------ then, especially our money.

The picture is becoming clearer. I think it is meant to be.
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snagglepuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 12:23 PM
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23. Thanks for this very informative summary. nt
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-10-09 01:05 PM
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40. Mark Rich......IranContra figure also named in BCCI's outstanding matters - see below
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 12:20 PM
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22. whether or not brewster jennings was ongoing has nothing to do with the covert status of the people
covert people need to remain covert long after the front operations are shut down. the people involved remain at risk for years.

as for the blown cover, even if true, there's quite a difference between one person's tip-off through diplomatic channels and novak's printing the story for all to see.

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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-10-09 08:24 AM
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31. Yes, they were outed to Turks but were still operational.
This was before Bush/Cheney. Later, Bush/Cheney brought it to its final end.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-10-09 12:30 PM
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39. Turkish Cukorova Group's maneuverings were an outstanding matter in BCCI. See #13
Read ALL the matters that required further scrutiny and dare ask WHY the BCCI investigation hit a wall after the release of this report in Dec1992 and the further scrutiny that Kerry said was needed never materialized. Seems Bushes and Clinton did NOT want these questions answered.

APPENDICES

Matters For Further Investigation

There have been a number of matters which the Subcommittee has received some information on, but has not been able to investigate adequately, due such factors as lack of resources, lack of time, documents being withheld by foreign governments, and limited evidentiary sources or witnesses. Some of the main areas which deserve further investigation include:

1. The extent of BCCI's involvement in Pakistan's nuclear program. As set forth in the chapter on BCCI in foreign countries, there is good reason to conclude that BCCI did finance Pakistan's nuclear program through the BCCI Foundation in Pakistan, as well as through BCCI-Canada in the Parvez case. However, details on BCCI's involvement remain unavailable. Further investigation is needed to understand the extent to which BCCI and Pakistan were able to evade U.S. and international nuclear non-proliferation regimes to acquire nuclear technologies.

2. BCCI's manipulation of commodities and securities markets in Europe and Canada. The Subcommittee has received information that remains not fully substantiated that BCCI defrauded investors, as well as some major U.S. and European financial firms, through manipulating commodities and securities markets, especially in Canada, the Netherlands, and Luxembourg. This alleged fraud requires further investigation in those countries.

3. BCCI's activities in India, including its relationship with the business empire of the Hinduja family. The Subcommittee has not had access to BCCI records regarding India. The substantial lending by BCCI to the Indian industrialist family, the Hindujas, reported in press accounts, deserves further scrutiny, as do the press reports concerning alleged kick-backs and bribes to Indian officials.

4. BCCI's relationships with convicted Iraqi arms dealer Sarkis Soghanalian, Syrian drug trafficker, terrorist, and arms trafficker Monzer Al-Kassar, and other major arms dealers. Sarkenalian was a principal seller of arms to Iraq. Monzer Al-Kassar has been implicated in terrorist bombings in connection with terrorist organizations such as the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine. Other arms dealers, including some who provided machine guns and trained Medellin cartel death squads, also used BCCI. Tracing their assets through the bank would likely lead to important information concerning international terrorist and arms trafficker networks.

5. The use of BCCI by central figures in arms sales to Iran during the 1980's. The late Cyrus Hashemi, a key figure in allegations concerning an alleged deal involving the return of U.S. hostages from Iran in 1980, banked at BCCI London. His records have been withheld from disclosure to the Subcommittee by a British judge. Their release might aid in reaching judgments concerning Hashemi's activities in 1980, with the CIA under President Carter and allegedly with William Casey.

6. BCCI's activities with the Central Bank of Syria and with the Foreign Trade Mission of the Soviet Union in London. BCCI was used by both the Syrian and Soviet governments in the period in which each was involved in supporting activities hostile to the United States. Obtaining the records of those financial transactions would be critical to understanding what the Soviet Union under Brezhnev, Chernenko, and Andropov was doing in the West; and might document the nature and extent of Syria's support for international terrorism.

7. BCCI's involvement with foreign intelligence agencies. A British source has told the Bank of England and British investigators that BCCI was used by numerous foreign intelligence agencies in the United Kingdom. The British intelligence service, the MI-5, has sealed documents from BCCI's records in the UK which could shed light on this allegation.

8. The financial dealings of BCCI directors with Charles Keating and several Keating affiliates and front-companies, including the possibility that BCCI related entities may have laundered funds for Keating to move them outside the United States. The Subcommittee found numerous connections among Keating and BCCI-related persons and entities, such as BCCI director Alfred Hartman; CenTrust chief David Paul and CenTrust itself; Capcom front-man Lawrence Romrell; BCCI shipping affiliate, the Gokal group and the Gokal family; and possibly Ghaith Pharaon. The ties between BCCI and Keating's financial empire require further investigation.

9. BCCI's financing of commodities and other business dealings of international criminal financier Marc Rich. Marc Rich remains the most important figure in the international commodities markets, and remains a fugitive from the United States following his indictment on securities fraud. BCCI lending to Rich in the 1980's amounted to tens of millions of dollars. Moreover, Rich's commodities firms were used by BCCI in connection with BCCI's involving in U.S. guarantee programs through the Department of Agriculture. The nature and extent of Rich's relationship with BCCI requires further investigation.

10. The nature, extent and meaning of the ownership of shares of other U.S. financial institutions by Middle Eastern political figures. Political figures and members of the ruling family of various Middle Eastern countries have very substantial investments in the United States, in some cases, owning substantial shares of major U.S. banks. Given BCCI's routine use of nominees from the Middle East, and the pervasive practice of using nominees within the Middle East, further investigation may be warranted of Middle Eastern ownership of domestic U.S. financial institutions.

11. The nature, extent, and meaning of real estate and financial investments in the United States by major shareholders of BCCI. BCCI's shareholders and front-men have made substantial investments in real estate throughout the United States, owning major office buildings in such key cities as New York and Washington, D.C. Given BCCI's pervasiveness criminality, and the role of these shareholders and front-men in the BCCI affair, a complete review of their holdings in the United States is warranted.

12. BCCI's collusion in Savings & Loan fraud in the U.S. The Subcommittee found ties between BCCI and two failed Savings and Loan institutions, CenTrust, which BCCI came to have a controlling interest in, and Caprock Savings and Loan in Texas, and as noted above, the involvement of BCCI figures with Charles Keating and his business empire. In each case, BCCI's involvement cost the U. S. taxpayers money. A comprehensive review of BCCI's account holders in the U.S. and globally might well reveal additional such cases. In addition, the issue of whether David Paul and CenTrust's political relationships were used by Paul on behalf of BCCI merits further investigation.

13. The sale of BCCI affiliate Banque de Commerce et de Placements (BCP) in Geneva, to the Cukorova Group of Turkey, which owned an entity involved in the BNL Iraqi arms sales, among others. Given BNL's links to BCCI, and Cukorova Groups' involvement through its subsidiary, Entrade, with BNL in the sales to Iraq, the swift sale of BCP to Cukorova just weeks after BCCI's closure -- prior to due diligence being conducted -- raises questions as to whether a prior relationship existed between BCCI and Cukorova, and Cukorova's intentions in making the purchase. Within the past year, Cukorova also applied to purchase a New York bank. Cukorova's actions pertaining to BCP require further investigation in Switzerland by Swiss authorities, and by the Federal Reserve New York.

14. BCCI's role in China. As noted in the chapter on BCCI's activities in foreign countries, BCCI had extensive activity in China, and the Chinese government allegedly lost $500 million when BCCI closed, mostly from government accounts. While there have been allegations that bribes and pay-offs were involved, these allegations require further investigation and detail to determine what actually happened, and who was involved.

15. The relationship between Capcom and BCCI, between Capcom and the intelligence community, and between Capcom's shareholders and U.S. telecommunications industry figures. The Subcommittee was able to interview people and review documents concerning Capcom that no other investigators had to date interviewed or reviewed. Much more needs to be done to understand what Capcom was doing in the United States, the United Kingdom, Egypt, Oman, and the Middle East, including whether the firm was, as has been alleged but not proven, used by the intelligence community to move funds for intelligence operations; and whether any person involved with Capcom was seeking secretly to acquire interests in the U.S. telecommunications industry.

16. The relationship of important BCCI figures and important intelligence figures to the collapse of the Hong Kong Deposit and Guaranty Bank and Tetra Finance (HK) in 1983. The circumstances surrounding the collpase of these two Hong Kong banks; the Hong Kong banks' practices of using nominees, front-companies, and back-to-back financial transactions; the Hong Banks' directors having included several important BCCI figures, including Ghanim Al Mazrui, and a close associate of then CIA director William Casey; all raise the question of whether there was a relationship between these two institutions and BCCI-Hong Kong, and whether the two Hong Kong institutions were used for domestic or foreign intelligence operations.

17. BCCI's activities in Atlanta and its acquisition of the National Bank of Georgia through First American. Although the Justice Department indictments of Clark Clifford and Robert Altman cover portions of how BCCI acquired National Bank of Georgia, other important allegations regarding the possible involvement of political figures in Georgia in BCCI's activities there remain outside the indictment. These allegations, as well as the underlying facts regarding BCCI's activities in Georgia, require further investigation.

18. The relationship between BCCI and the Banca Nazionale del Lavoro. BCCI and the Atlanta Branch of BNL had an extensive relationship in the United States, with the Atlanta Branch of BNL having a substantial number of accounts in BCCI's Miami offices. BNL was, according to federal indictments, a significant financial conduit for weapons to Iraq. BCCI also made loans to Iraq, although of a substantially smaller nature. Given the criminality of both institutions, and their interlocking activities, further investigation of the relationship could produce further understanding of Saddam Hussein's international network for acquiring weapons, and how Iraq evaded governmental restrictions on such weapons acquisitions.

19. The alleged relationship between the late CIA director William Casey and BCCI. As set forth in the chapter on intelligence, numerous trails lead from BCCI to Casey, and from Casey to BCCI, and the investigation has been unable to follow any of them to the end to determine whether there was indeed a relationship, and if there was, its nature and extent. If any such relationship existed, it could have a significant impact on the findings and conclusions concerning the CIA and BCCI's role in U.S. foreign policy and intelligence operations during the Casey era. The investigation's work detailing the ties of BCCI to the intelligence community generally also remains far from complete, and much about these ties remains obscure and in need of further investigation.

20. Money laundering by other major international banks. Numerous BCCI officials told the Subcommittee that BCCI's money laundering was no different from activities they observed at other international banks, and provided the names of a number of prominent U.S. and European banks which they alleged engaged in money laundering. There is no question that BCCI's laundering of drug money, while pervading the institution, constituted a small component of the total money laundering taking place in international banking. Further investigation to determine which international banks are soliciting and handling drug money should be undertaken.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-10-09 03:26 PM
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46. Interesting note about the sale of BCCI branches to Cukorova.
Former BCCI directors claim Sheikh's family behind fraud

JOHN WILLCOCK, Financial Correspondent

Thursday, 30 June 1994

THREE former directors of Bank of Credit and Commerce International are suing the Sheikh of Abu Dhabi and other members of the Gulf state's royal family for dollars 100m, alleging that the family were the prime movers behind the bank's dollars 20bn frauds.

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One of the three behind the legal action, Alfred Hartmann, a senior Swiss banker, sat on various BCCI boards from 1982 to 1991. The others are Yves Lamarche, an American living in France, who served from 1976 to 1991, and Johan Van Oenen, a Dutchman living in Surrey, from 1978 until 1992.

Dr Hartmann resigned from his chairmanship of Banca Nazionale del Lavoro's Swiss arm in September 1991, and also his chairmanship of the troubled Swiss bank Rothschild at the end of 1992.

He helped to negotiate the swift sale of BCCI's Banque de Commerce & de Placement to the Turkish group Cukurova in July 1991, just over two weeks after BCCI was closed by bank regulators worldwide.
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Sounds like dog and pony show time to redirect attention away from their actions, knowing full well the US DOJ would protect the sheik.
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PRETZEL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-10-09 09:20 AM
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33. Dismantled or not,
I think this does put this into a somewhat different light.

For me, this may answer a key question as to why Valerie Plame was no longer in the field. If I can recall from all the various writing about her relationship with Brewster Jennings, I got the impression that they were making her out to be in a somewhat high position with that cover company. If that is indeed true, wouldn't her value within the CIA also be at a somewhat high level.

And in doing so, would it not be in both her and the CIA's best interest to pull her out if there was indeed some form of cover being blown as it related to Brewster Jennings?
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