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Stuart G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 09:01 AM
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Why is Blackwater still getting contracts?
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20090817/scahill2

I do not understand this. They have killed innocent people and we are still doing business with them. Why?
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 09:07 AM
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1. because "change" was an advertising slogan,
not a promise
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 09:07 AM
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2. Well, the US has killed plenty of innocent civilians, and people still do business with us...
You ask a good question, though. IMO the entire organization is criminal and should be forcibly dissolved.
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Stuart G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 09:09 AM
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3. I agree, they are criminal...and should be dissolved..but
why are they still getting contracts?
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 09:16 AM
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10. As to that, I have no idea.
And it sickens me.
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atreides1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 09:09 AM
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4. A good question
Could it be that certain elements within the State Department, CIA, and the Department of Defense, actually believe in the concept of Christian domination of the world.

Whatever happened to those military officers that appeared in that pro-Christian video? Do we even have a clue as to how many State Department workers by into what Prince is selling? I'm not talking about poiltical appointees, but about department heads, supervisors, managers?

And we already know that the CIA didn't have a problem torturing Muslims who were captured and turned over to their tender mercies.

I know it sounds pretty far fetched doesn't it, but remember it's not the upper management that conducts the day to day operations, it's the rank and file, people like you and me.
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Frustratedlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 09:10 AM
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5. Am I right in thinking that the "professional military" - hired thugs - aren't counted?
When we say we have x number of troops in the area, any Blackwater-types aren't in that number. Am I wrong?
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Stuart G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 09:12 AM
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7. I am almost sure that you are correct..I read that Blackwater types..add
or at one point added, close to 50,000, more to the total..not sure of exact number...
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 09:17 AM
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11. Why don't we draft them?
It would be a lot cheaper than paying each of them $150K per year.
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Tab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 09:11 AM
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6. They're not.

Xe is.

Just like Philip Morris doesn't sell cigarettes any more (yay!). Altria does. :(

Nuances are VEEEEERRRY important on K street, my son.
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OwnedByFerrets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 09:15 AM
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8. I asked the same question the other day and didnt get any good
answers either. So many things that I thought would change, but they havent. Starting with DOJ. So many questions, so few answers.
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Stuart G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 09:17 AM
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12. I thought that this would change immediately. After all, they can be
fired can't they?. Can't we hire some other company if that is necessary?
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Stuart G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 09:15 AM
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9. This link is now up at Raw Story..about Blackwater using child prostitutes.
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Indydem Donating Member (866 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 09:39 AM
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13. Change you can believe in.
Hope

:sarcasm:
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 01:00 PM
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14. There is a specific set of steps that have to be taken before a company can be barred from Federal
contracts. Apparently those have not been taken or can not be taken since Blackwater may not have violated the FAR.

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Stuart G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 01:20 PM
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16. Does anyone know if the government is trying to delist these crooks? Have any
steps been taken to take even one contract away from this company?
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 02:01 PM
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17. No way to tell from the outside
Edited on Sun Aug-09-09 02:01 PM by ProgressiveProfessor
The Federal procurement system has been tuned over the years to allow maximum competition and getting barred is a hard thing.
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 01:01 PM
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15. This is America man, the rich get richer and they never go to jail.
Where have you been living?
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LiberalAndProud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 02:14 PM
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18. Isn't it the same old problem? If not Xe nee Blackwater, who?
It's not like there are hundreds of companies specializing in the mercenary -- I mean "Security Services -- industry. I wonder what will have changed by September 3?

"The State Department contract is scheduled to run through September 3. In May, the State Department announced it was not renewing Blackwater's Iraq contract, and the Iraqi government has refused to issue the company an operating license."


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laststeamtrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 02:14 PM
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19. Wasn't there a 'morals' clause in their contracts with the previous administration?
It seems to me any contract they had is out the window.

It would be good if arrests were made too. & trials & convictions & penalties, etc.

Why isn't this in the works now?
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