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CitizenPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 02:31 PM
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We are the UNION the mighty mighty union!
Hey, DUers, I just wrote this for a progressive blog I write for and I wanted to share it with you guys. I searched high and low for a video posted here during the GE of the union singing "we are the union" as they marched somewhere...I couldn't find it. IF anyone here knows where it is, would you be so kind as to clue me in???? thank you!

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AFL calls a HALT the Brooks Brothers Riot Tactics on Healthcare

Just when you thought Real Americans were going to be shut down in Town Hall meetings across the country, democracy thwarted yet again by the Thug Tactics of the right, we hear a rallying roar from our union brothers and sisters.

No, this isn’t the country of 2000. No, we aren’t going to let a Brooks Brothers Riot stop another recount. No, we aren’t going to believe there are WMD just because the right told us we weren’t patriots if we dared to question them. It isn’t the country of 2004 either. No, we aren’t going to sit idly by depending on the civilized democratic process to overcome the loud, angry voices Swiftboating an American war hero.

No more purple band-aids for us!

Just who will stand up for our right to be heard? Who can meet the TeaBaggers head on? Who? Since all thinking people have jumped ship from the Republican party, your average American is voting Dem these days. So, we’re left with the Democratic Party of Discussion and Diplomacy. Good values. Our country is based on these ideals. But not so handy when you’re fighting a bully.

Remember when your mom told you to ignore the bully in grade school who called you or your friends names? Remember how it didn’t ever work out like she said it would, because the more you ignored them, the worse it got? My mom used to have me write compassion essays, or empathy essays. Good exercise, but when the wolf is at the door, you’re starving and you have no health insurance, an empathy essay isn’t the best weapon. At least not when you’re fighting thugs who are hell bent on avoiding an intellectual debate they know they will lose.

Oh, how we progressives fall into angst here! We respect their right to speak, we rush to defend the angry fat man on the radio who lies about us everyday, we talk about karma and muse about how to get them to see our point, we defend ourselves against attacks of being snobby intellectual elites, thinking if we just try harder to understand….

It’s all so lovely and high minded….and unworkable. In THIS fight.

What progressives fail to realize is that we are not fighting the same fight, so we will lose. They don’t want to have a discussion, understand our point, or allow us our freedom of speech. These are the same people who called VERBAL dissent unpatriotic and treasonous when they were in power! In 2007, Fox News host Brian Kilmead said that people who confront politicians are “threatening” and should be Tased or “beaten to a pulp.”

Because back in the Good Old Days of the Synthetic Cowboy and His Gang of Thugs dismantling the constitution, it wasn't American to protest. But suddenly, now, it seems the Screeching Minority has rediscovered the Sarah Palin Dept of Law and Constitution. You know, the one that's good for them but no one else? Good Dog, how long will it take until we get that?

There we were, writhing in the mess of 8 years of fascist takeover, as we carried our war protest signs to peace rallies the MSM ignored, and in our hearts we never thought we’d get this country back. We were demoralized and down-trodden.

But along came Barack Hussein Obama. Oh, a new day for us! With his awesome powers of organization and messaging, Obama proved over and over again that he could and would overcome the hate propaganda thrown at him during the GE. “Terrorist! Muslin! Hitler!” – your basic “look at the brown man” message – he overcame them all with grace, dignity and hidden strength.

We won. Yes, we overcame election fraud and voter fraud and illegal prosecutions and slander and MSM corporate allegiance to their party….We, the people, won. Our voices were heard.

At a particularly low point in the GE, I remember the Republicans going to a UAW plant and speaking. The union folks, themselves Real Americans, weren’t fooled by the Beer Heiress and her Prince. Legend has it that as the 12 houses (how many do they have? 12 or 13, but some not in their names? Very confusing) “everyman” POW no purple band-aids here, McCain, and the wife he calls ##@# exited, the plant workers began singing, “We are the Union, the mighty mighty Union.” It gives me chills just thinking about it.

My grandfather was a leader in the union movement, and I'm a proud member of a union myself. I can think of nothing more American than our unions; while they may be imperfect, they are necessary. They give the common person collective power. And they’re usually smart enough to keep their messaging simple.

Well, patriots, our union brothers and sisters have stepped up once again, riding to our rescue to save our Town Halls and the democratic process. The AFL-CIO union movement represents 11 million members. They are teachers and truck drivers, musicians and miners, firefighters and farm workers, bakers and bottlers, engineers and editors, pilots and public employees, doctors and nurses, painters and laborers—and more. In other words, you basic Real Amerian.

TeaBagging Astroturffers don’t want to let the nation have a civil debate regarding healthcare? OK, then.

ENTER THE UNION!

“AFL-CIO Secretary Treasurer Richard Trumka sends out a scathing statement about the town halls, hitting on Sweeney's themes and calling the events corporate funded.

Every American has the inalienable right to participate in our democratic process. Our politics is passionate, heartfelt and often loud -- as was the founding of our nation. But that is not what the corporate-funded mobs are engaging in when they show up to disrupt town halls held by members of Congress.

Major health care reform is closer than ever to passage and it is no secret that special interests want to weaken or block it. These mobs are not there to participate. As their own strategy memo states, they have been sent by their corporate and lobbyist bankrollers to disrupt, heckle and block meaningful debate. This is a desperation move, meant to slow the momentum for change.

Mob rule is not democracy. People have a democratic right to express themselves and our elected leaders have a right to hear from their constituents -- not organized thugs whose sole purpose is to shut down the conversation and attempt to scare our leaders into inaction

We call on the insurance companies, the lobbyists and the Republican leaders who are cheering them on to halt these 'Brooks Brothers Riot' tactics. Health care is a crucial issue and everyone - on all sides of the issue - deserves to be heard.”

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/06/unions-to-take-on-conserv_n_252...

We are the Union, the Mighty Mighty Union!! Hear us Roar! From the WGA to the UAW, raise your voice, and be heard brothers and sisters!

Bring it, Astoturfing TeaBaggers! Game on.

http://www.politicususa.com/en/node/7045
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BlueIdaho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 02:32 PM
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1. we need some teamsters... NOW! nt.
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CitizenPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 02:47 PM
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3. YES!!!! LOve me some teamsters! nt
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vadawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 02:34 PM
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2. until people start getting killed, then its going to get real ugly
i dont like the way this is starting to pan out, this is going to backfire big on one side or the other and its in the air right now about who will catch the shrapnel, but we got to remember which side the media hates and who they are likely to blame...
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CitizenPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 02:48 PM
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4. apparently they're canceling
some of the town halls due to death threats.

jesus, these people.

msm will report "angry liberals attack nice teabaggers" forgetting to mention the guns certain tea baggers brought to the fight. I can see that scenario now.
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vadawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 02:57 PM
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6. im saying from experience that when you get two groups coming up against each other
with the amount of vitriol coming from both sides that its going to explode and im going to get caught up in the middle, it was bad enough when you get one group of disruptors being idiots but when you get another group deciding to stop the disruption you just know theres going to be a confrontation. I know lots of DUers are excited to see blood and think the union guys will kick butt, but remember the other side if physically threatened will be able to use weapons to defend themselves and the union guys will be called the bad guys by the press.... all in all i think cancelling the townhalls is whats going to happen as i think the politicians can see it escalating as well.
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CitizenPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 03:00 PM
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8. I hear what you're saying
but the union isn't threatening to get violent. they are excellent at organizing and marching and getting a message out. Their messages are simple and succinct, and they stand for the american worker... hardly the elite socialists we're being painted out to be.

I think their voice is an important one to add to this debate.
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vadawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 03:02 PM
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11. yup i agree, problem is i can see this thing spiralling out of control
its gone beyond just standing looking at each other and could easily slip into violence, thats what concerns me.
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BlueIdaho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 03:16 PM
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19. SPIRALLING out of control????????? WTF?
Its out of control NOW.
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 03:03 PM
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14. Do you have an alternative to this, then?
Edited on Thu Aug-06-09 03:05 PM by SeattleGirl
I don't want to see bloodshed over this either, but it's way past time to shut these people down. They've been pulling this crap since the Brooks Brothers Riots of 2000 (before that, actually, but I think the current incarnation started in 2000).

I think a lot of these people are typical bullies who think, when they are getting away with something, that they are the kings and queens of the world, that they are invincible, etc. But often, with these types of people, if you stand up to them, they start to back down. By standing up, I don't mean threatening them with a gun or a baseball bat. Rather, I mean calling them on the bullshit, questioning them, or even just staring them down.

One major way to handle them is to take away their power. They've had power because they've been getting away with yelling, screaming, and in at least one case, threatening a congress person. They would continue to get away with it, if people didn't fight back in different ways, which is what we are starting to see. And, as far as I know, those fighting back haven't used one gun or baseball bat.

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vadawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 03:05 PM
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16. honestly no idea, but wwe got to stop the escalation thats happening
mayby shutting the town halls down, or trying something different, anything rather than letting it end in violence from either side,
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 03:11 PM
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17. I don't want the town halls shut down, because that shuts down
open discussion of the issue of health care reform. But then, so does allowing those idiots to continue to yell, scream, and holler their lies.

I have heard of some alternatives that have been done, such as town hall by telephone, or a different way to set up the rooms, etc., which I think are good ideas.

I would bet that if anybody started to get violent, it would be the crazies that are already out there, trying to shut everybody else up. And that, sir, is where you and the men and women in blue would come in. If someone is getting completely out of hand, or actually threatening someone (and I don't mean by saying, your momma wears combat boots, but a genuine threat), then haul their asses off. I am a huge supporter of the first amendment, but I don't think the first amendment includes the right to get violent (and I know you don't think that either).

Anyway, as I said, I think the town halls should go on, but now that we know what these idiots are up to, we can approach them in different ways, we can be more prepared, etc.

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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 03:21 PM
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25. I've been saying that I don't see their side and our side
resolving our differences peacefully. We have diametrically opposing ideologies that is becoming more difficult by the day for any degree of reconciliation to be achieved. We are polarized. All that is needed is a spark.
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Are_grits_groceries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 03:31 PM
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27. I don't want anybody to get hurt.
but the way it is too late for that. I think death threats count a lot. In addition, they are counting on the Dems to sit by or walk meekly away.

The media is already half-assing the truth about the rallies. I'm sure there are people there with legitimate gripes and questions. The MSM isn't looking for the truth about astroturfing. They already know what it is. Chris Matthews act like these are Sam Adam's boys come to life. He knows better because he knows what Rachel reports. Whatever one thinks of Rachel, she sources her stories.

There needs to be a larger and more vocal group of supporters for a health care discussion. Anybody who wants to find out anything is too afraid to ask. If the people in charge look at the way a couple of successful meetings were held, then the addition of supporters should make it easier if used correctly. It's going to be difficult no matter how things are done.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 02:49 PM
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5. I support this.
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CitizenPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 03:03 PM
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13. hi bloo!!! long time no see... nt
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 02:59 PM
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7. Heh...there's a part of me that wants to see Freepers
shit themselves as angry teamsters stare them down.

Those Astroturfing fucks will get theirs. Especially when we haul them off to the reeducation camps.
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vadawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 03:01 PM
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9. i hope to fuck you are kidding about the re education camps
if not then i hope the majority of americans fight against them, the very idea of re education camps should be abhorant to all..
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CitizenPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 03:02 PM
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12. i took that as sarcasm based on
the right's constant nattering on about Obama's reeducation camps. You know, Crazy Eyes Bachmann and her warnings of imminent take over by the evil socialists?
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vadawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 03:04 PM
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15. phew, was getting worried there, getting ready to get my rifle
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 03:18 PM
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22. Of course I'm kidding.
But lurking Freepers won't think I am. :P

No, the very idea of a reeducation camp REEKS of George Orwell.
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CitizenPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 03:01 PM
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10. LOL. it is a dream....
Teamsters versus the Teabaggers....

I'm going with the teamsters:-)

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Liberalynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 03:12 PM
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18. So are Union Members actually going to start showing up at the meetings
Edited on Thu Aug-06-09 03:13 PM by Liberalynn
to voice the pro health reform side or is it just the letter?
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CitizenPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 03:19 PM
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23. from AFL blog
"The union movement has always supported free speech rights and the right to demonstrate and picket. But that’s not what these disruptions are about—they are crude and anti-democratic efforts to silence speakers, elected officials, in fact, in meetings with constituents—and intimidate people’s exercise of associational rights.

Thousands of supporters for health care reform rallied June 25 in Washington, D.C., and with Congress on recess in August, union members and our allies plan to pack town halls and hold rallies across the nation to convey the message that Congress needs to enact health care reform now. Later today we will have more on recess actions on health care reform."

http://blog.aflcio.org/2009/08/04/health-care-reform-opponents-resort-to-mob-rule/
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Liberalynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 03:28 PM
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26. Thanks!
Glad to know they are rallying the members. Go UNION!!!
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guitar man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 03:16 PM
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20. My Dad would have loved this
He was a big, mean assed Teamster that was always spoiling for a scrap...the Baggers and Birthers would rue the day they met up with him, he's have one inder each arm knocking their heads together as he drug 'em out the door :evilgrin:
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CitizenPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 03:21 PM
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24. aww....I wish could have seen this!
I know my grandpa's going to be so proud when I tell him -- if he can hear me (WWII vet with bad ears).
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guitar man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 03:32 PM
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28. my dad and my grandfather both
Were staunch union men. My grandad stood up to the thugs in the middle of the depression for his union. I hope we can honor all their memories by stannding up now.
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CitizenPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 04:27 PM
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30. honor them...what a lovely way to put that...
Yes, why don't we stand up for the rights of all Americans and dedicate it to our grandparents and parents who fought so hard for these rights...
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vadawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 03:56 PM
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29. not getting at you, but heres the problem, imthe one whos going to arrest teamsters doing exactly
that, and then your going to have the DUers cheering when cops get hurt, or calling us pigs and fascists, this is what i mean by it starting to escalate, we have people on DU now wanting to see both sides come at each other and unfortunately its guys like me who are going to be caught in the middle and people are going to be hurt or killed.
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CitizenPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 04:54 PM
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31. I'm still a little lost here
the union is not threatening anyone -- they are planning to show up to the rallies and offer a collective voice.

I know you're not saying they shouldn't do that because the other side might get violent, but the end result is the same.

What exactly are we supposed to do?

And I'm sure I speak for everyone at Du when I say no one wants any police officer, or anyone else for that matter, hurt. Currently, it's the elcted representatives whose lives have been threatened...and that's not OK either.

the sad truth of the matter is -- and i"m sure you see this in your line of work -- that if one side wants power and is unwilling to lose control at any cost, the other side must either concede or stand up to them. sometimes that results in violence.

And sometimes when we don't stand up, it results in a take over, where we are held hostage by our unwillingness to take the risk of violence occurring.

I'm not sure there's a right answer here, but I know that what we've done in the past, by allowing these things to take over, has cost plenty of lives. They just didn't happen at that moment. But many lives were ruined and lost by the *8 administration's takeover.

As many lives will be lost without healthcare for all.

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guitar man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 04:55 PM
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32. I hate to see you guys and gals get caught in the middle
And I'm aware of what it says in my sig line, I put it there to temper my response and thinking i\on things. But dammit, this is serious. Over 40 million people already don't have health care and I'm afraid my family is about to join their ranks. If the premium increase is around the same as it was last year, it's game over, on my salary, I won't be able to afford it.

I have a wife with high blood pressure and a child with a serious food allergy. As far as I'm concerned at this point, anybody standing in the way of my family having the medical care they need is committing an ACT OF VIOLENCE against me and my family. I'm tired from working my ass off to try and keep our heads above water and desperate for results, any kind of results that will allow my family to continue to have health care and live. I've had it as have a lot of other working class dogs like myself.

In my grandfather's and father's day, nothing happened until things got bloody. I sincerely hope that doesn't have to happen again, but it is beginning to look like it may once again become necessary more and more every day. If that's the way it goes down, so be it, I just hope I can be of help fighting the good fight if it does.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 03:17 PM
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21. I did something today..how 'bout the rest of you?
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