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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 02:43 PM
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Hillary Clinton demands accountability for war crimes
My tagline becomes ever more apropos to politics in the land of the free today.

http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2009/08/05/kenya/

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Just consider what Hillary Clinton today, in Kenya, is saying and doing regarding allegations that Kenyan politician officials participated in acts of violence during civil strife in that country. From today's New York Times, headlined: "Clinton Calls for Accountability in Kenya":

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Prosecutors at the International Criminal Court at the Hague have vowed to get involved if the Kenyan government fails to prosecute the top suspects, possibly including government ministers. On Wednesday, the Kenyan foreign minister said that this was still an option.

But Mrs. Clinton said Kenya should handle the process itself. It is “far preferable that prosecutors, judges and law enforcement officials step up to their responsibility,” she said.


We need to teach those Kenyans that if they don't prosecute their criminals in high office, then they'll perpetuate their "culture of impunity," and that would be awful. Those Kenyans apparently fail to understand that if you immunize high political officials when they commit crimes, that creates a "culture of impunity" -- I love that phrase -- which ensures future rampant criminality in the political class. How can those Kenyans not realize this?

Clinton's sentiments echoed what Obama told Africans when he spoke in Ghana last month, when he demanded that they apply "the rule of law, which ensures the equal administration of justice" and vowed that "we will stand behind efforts to hold war criminals accountable" -- meaning African war criminals. As we send murderous, crusading civilian units around the world to accompany our invading armies -- while ushering a regime of torture wherever we go -- and then announcing we will only Look to the Future, Not the Past, when their crimes are exposed (despite our best efforts to keep them concealed), do we actually expect anyone to take these sermons seriously?


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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 02:45 PM
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1. Oh. I thought you meant *ours*.
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 02:50 PM
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5. Silly rabbit..
Accountability is for brown people..
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 02:51 PM
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7. Just had my first smoke of the day - heavy buzz. I'll clear up soon.
:P
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 02:45 PM
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2. Does she mean Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Baker, and Rice?
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 04:01 PM
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9. Last time I checked she was the SOS, it's not in her purview.
:shrug:
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rd_kent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 02:46 PM
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3. I wish she would point some of that outrage back this way at OUR war criminals. n/t
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CBGLuthier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 02:46 PM
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4. Anyone see that giant thing sticking out of her eye?
America, Over 200 years of hypocrisy and going strong.
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 02:51 PM
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6. Going strong?
More like wildly accelerating.. Got the pedal to the hypocrisy metal for sure.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 04:04 PM
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11. not hard to see that plank
when the house is made of glass.
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daedalus_dude Donating Member (327 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 03:54 PM
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8. I wonder if she was able to say it with a straight face.
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 04:03 PM
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10. ...except in the U.S.
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 04:49 PM
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12. Too bad we can't apply that back home.
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Juche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 04:55 PM
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13. I knew she was referring to a different country
I just didn't know which one. Considering that the rendition program was started under her husband, and is a violation of the convention against torture its no wonder she wasn't talking about our country.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 04:58 PM
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14. did the irony clown slap her around a bit?
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LiberalAndProud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 05:05 PM
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15. She made it crystal clear where the responsibility lies.
“prosecutors, judges and law enforcement officials step up to their responsibility.”
And if President Obama has really said "we will stand behind efforts to hold war criminals accountable" ...

Wuz up Eric?
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 05:12 PM
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16. Delicious irony. n/t
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wininboy Donating Member (111 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 05:15 PM
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17. Obama's not going to like hearing that
Edited on Wed Aug-05-09 05:16 PM by wininboy
Oh wait! She didn't mean *those* war crimes
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