I just read the Pittsburgh shooters blog, it is VERY LIKELY he was a poster on FreeRepublic

[wndycty]

Wow. His manifesto just shows how sick this idiot was. He planned on doing this last summer but wanted to see how the election played out first.

Here is his the entire page, it was found at http://georgesodini.com/20090804.htm (I won't be surprised to see this link go down soon):

George Sodini
Age 48.
DOB 9/30/1960
DOD 8/4/2009
5-10, 155 lbs.
Never married.
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania USA
Me

Why do this?? To young girls? Just read below. I kept a running log that includes my thoughts and actions, after I saw this project was going to drag on.

November 5, 2008:
Planned to do this in the summer but figure to stick around to see the election outcome. This particular one got so much attention and I was just curious. Not like I give a flying fcuk who won, since this exit plan was already planned. Good luck to Obama! He will be successful. The liberal media LOVES him. Amerika has chosen The Black Man. Good! In light of this I got ideas outside of Obama's plans for the economy and such. Here it is: Every black man should get a young white girl hoe to hone up on. Kinda a reverse indentured servitude thing. Long ago, many a older white male landowner had a young Negro wench girl for his desires. Bout' time tables are turned on that shit. Besides, dem young white hoez dig da bruthrs! LOL. More so than they dig the white dudes! Every daddy know when he sends his little girl to college, she be bangin a bruthr real good. I saw it. "Not my little girl", daddy says! (Yeah right!!) Black dudes have thier choice of best white hoez. You do the math, there are enough young white so all the brothers can each have one for 3 or 6 months or so.

December 22, 2008:
Time is moving along. Planned to have this done already. I will just keep a running log here as time passes. Many of the young girls here look so beautiful as to not be human, very edible. After joining this gym, started lifting weights and like it. Much info about weight programs, diet etc on the web. Or anything for that matter. Instead of TV I can Google for hours to relax. TV and most movies are dull.

December 24, 2008:
Moving into Christmas again. No girlfriend since 1984, last Christmas with Pam was in 1983. Who knows why. I am not ugly or too weird. No sex since July 1990 either (I was 29). No shit! Over eighteen years ago. And did it maybe only 50-75 times in my life. Getting to think that a woman now would just, uh, get in the way of things. Isolated. I have extra money and enjoy traveling, too, wtih my 25-30 days of vacation. LA was the best! But going alone is not too fun. Invited to a party on Christmas day tomorrow. Seems about 15-25 people will actually show. I like her parties; I can meet new people and talk. Got the next 8 days off. I should have exit plan done and practiced by then. I know nothing will change, no matter how hard I try or what goals I set.

December 28, 2008:
Glad I stayed around. All these days off are great. I will shoot for Tuesday, January 6, 2009, at maybe 8:15. I have list of to-do items to make.

December 29, 2008:
Just got back from tanning, been doing this for a while. No gym today, my elbow is sore again. I actually look good. I dress good, am clean-shaven, bathe, touch of cologne - yet 30 million women rejected me - over an 18 or 25-year period. That is how I see it. Thirty million is my rough guesstimate of how many desirable single women there are. A man needs a woman for confidence. He gets a boost on the job, career, with other men, and everywhere else when he knows inside he has someone to spend the night with and who is also a friend. This type of life I see is a closed world with me specifically and totally excluded. Every other guy does this successfully to a degree. Flying solo for many years is a destroyer. Yet many people say I am easy to get along with, etc. Looking back, I owe nothing to desirable females who ask for anything, except for basic courtesy - usually. Looking back over everything, what bothers me most is the inability to work towards whatever change I choose.

December 30, 2008:
While driving I radio surfed to a talk show. The caller was a 30ish black man who was describing the despair in certain black communities. According to him, life is cheap there because you are going to die anyway when you get old. It is the quality of life that is important, he said. If you know the past 40 years were crappy, why live another 30 crappy years then die? His point was they engage in dangerous behavior which tends to shorten the lifespans, to die now and avoid the next 30 crappy years, using my example. The host got sarcastic and ended the call instead of trying understanding his point. Agreement wasn't necesary. I put music back on. But it was an interesting, and useful point for me to hear.

December 31, 2008:
My anger and rage is largely gone since I began lifting weights. Lifting drains me but I still have energy. Somebody else suggested running but that did not help me. I guess strenuous exercise is necesary for a man. So I just learned that now at 48. Maybe 30 years later than I would have liked. My dad never (not once) talked to me or asked about my life's details and tell me what he knew. He was just a useless sperm doner. Don't know why, find it fun talking to young kids when I visit someone. Brother was actually counter-productive and would try to embarase me or discourage my efferts when persuing things, esp girls early on (teen years). Useless bully. Result is I am learning basics by trial and error in my 40s, followed by discuragement. Seems odd, but thats true. Writing all this is helping me justify my plan and to see the futility of continuing. Too embarassed to tell anyone this, at almost 50 one is expected to just know these things.
I hope it doesn't snow on Tuesday. Just thought of that. The crowd will be thin so I would postpone. Shit!

Now that I am on the topic of family and people I know, I might as well make a summary of sorts to show where things stand. This is New Years Eve I have time, no date tonight of course, so:

Honorable mention:

Tetelestai Church in Pittsburgh, PA - "Be Ye Holy, even as I have been Ye holy! Thus saith the lord thy God!", as pastor Rick Knapp would proclaim. Holy shit, religion is a waste. But this guy teaches (and convinced me) you can commit mass murder then still go to heaven. Ask him. Call him at [phone]. If no answer there, he should still live at 439 9th Street, Oakmont, PA 15139. In any case, guilt and fear kept me there 13 long years until Nov 2006. I think his crap did the most damage. Their web site: http://www.tetelestai.org.

Mum - The Central Boss. 717 Highview Road, Pgh PA 15234. Don't piss her off or she will be mad and vindictive for years. She actually thinks she's normal. Very dominant. Her way and only her way with no flexibility toward everyone in the household. A power and control thing. People outside the immediate family like her. Why are people vicious with their closest ones? She is the Boss above all other Bosses.

Michael Sodini - A Boss, my brother (Mike Sodini) 216 Horseshoe Dr, Mars PA - Always the big bully, twice the size of most others. When he bullied or harassed someone, it was the other person who "deserved it". It was always about him. Way to self absorbed, too. Still is. Used to like to embarrass guys in front of their girlfriends. Lots of other shit. Kind of guy you actually loved to hate. The biggest, most self-centered jagoff I know. He took those bullying "skills" into the business world and is doing good financially. He is a big wheel only in his mind. Most people can see thru all his manipulation. He calls only when he wants something.

Sherry - sister - More of a victim than anything. Copes by exercising much control over her adult children. We used to be close until her control of L & D caused a conflict. Never the same after.

David - neph, sis's son (girlfriend Mallory Squires). Good young guy, though.

Lisa - niece, sis's daught. Attractive, smart, emotional - all good YW qualities.

Idiots:

Andy Pulkowski - I have been in barrooms and church groups. The worst people by far are the religious types. Especially a right-wing, stiff-faced fundie like Andy. A condescending, demeaning, passive-aggresive person. Frigid, rigid, linear and totally inflexible. Being a very serious person, he cannot hide his frown-lined face. He better not try to smile; lest his face might crack. I knew children of parents who grew up in strict religious homes. Religion has a certain stink to it of guilt, shame, fear, and that moral standard that always contradicts the natural tendencies and desires of a person. Therin lies the conflict. Young person cannot experiment with things to decide on their own and establish their own parameters. So they tend to cut loose and really rebel much worse than the average young person. Ma and Pa never know what goes on. They easily BS their parents because they want to believe their little one is an angel. Andy has a young daughter Bethany Pulkowski away at college, High Point University. I saw her picture on his desk. She's your basic, attractive, young girl. Please reread my entry made on Nov 5th. That's only one thing she can do. You Andy types out there need to further strengthen your strict resolve and do more of the same thing! Because those girls were great when I recall my college years! She is someone's (or many guy's) little hoe now, I am sure.

Another point about andy. How can someone be cold, vicious, sarcastic and generally nasty ALL THE TIME and then make the claim about their church life and how good they are? Total hypocritical idiots.

That's all for now. That felt good.

Let's continue...

January 5, 2009:
Was at the gym to lift. Very crowded. Tomorrow should be good. There is a woman there that gives me a certain look every time I am there. I decided to walk over and make a comment about the crowds but she left when I finished the exercise. Better that I do not get sidetracked from tomorrow's plan anyways. Life is just playing games. One or two dates with her, then the end. No matter how many changes I try to make, things stay the same. Every evening I am alone, and then go to bed alone. Young women were brutal when I was younger, now they aren't as much, probably because they just see me just as another old man.
I see twenty something couples everywhere. I see a twenty something guy with a nice twentyish young women. I think those years slipped right by for me. Why should I continue another 20+ years alone? I will just work, come home, eat, maybe do something, then go to bed (alone) for the next day of the same thing. This is the Auschwitz Syndrome, to be in serious pain so long one thinks it is normal. I cannot wait for tomorrow!

January 6, 2009:
I can do this. Leaving work today, I felt like a zombie - just going thru the motions. Get on the bus, get the car, drive home.....My mind is screwed up anymore, I can't concentrate at work or think at all.
This log is not detailed. It is only for confidence to do this. The future holds even less than what I have today.
It is 6:40pm, about hour and a half to go. God have mercy. I wish life could be better for all and the crazy world can somehow run smoother. I wish I had answers. Bye.

It is 8:45PM: I chickened out! Shit! I brought the loaded guns, everything. Hell!

April 24, 2009:
Early last month, we had our second general layoff. I survived. First one was in November. When I began 10 years ago, that used to be a nice place to work. I understand the need to reduce staff when times sour, but this is out of proportion to the economic problems at this time. The economy is shrinking by about 4-5%. They decided not to pay Christmas bonus - for staff that amounts to about 8% of yearly pay. Well, OK. Plus no yearly "merit" raise, another 3.5%. That totals to about 11% cut. Plus two layoffs of 5% staff in each case. Do the math. I know this firm is using this downturn as an excuse to take advanage of a bad situation and kill jobs UNNECESSARILY. The second layoff people who actually did work were let go. We all need to pick up the slack so the company can cut beyond what is necesary. Wasn't going to mention it, because of all this shit, it is K&L Gates, the large law firm headquartered here in Pittsburgh. Just call it K&L Gates Corporation. Most people there are OK and I would never have a shoot 'em up there. They paid me for 10 years, so far!

I predict I won't survive the next layoff. That is when there is no point to continue. RIght now, life is bearable and I can get by indefinitely. Something bad must happen. The paycheck is all I have left. The future holds nothing for me. Twenty five years of nothing fun. I never even spent one weekend with a girl in my life, even at my own place. Also unlikely to find another similar job. I guess then is when I take care of things. I don't have kids, close friends or anything. Just me here. If you have nothing, you have nothing to lose.

I enjoy writing these entries, I have no plans to go back and edit or even read most stuff already written. If you get bored, just click that "x" at the top, right corner of your browser. Bye.

May 4, 2009:
I was so eager to do this last year. The big problem on my mind now is that my job will end soon. One project is being transistioned to another. The other one I am solely responsible, but is being fast tracked to production. I estimate maybe a month. I am not ready for the job market. I am ok what I do, a .NET software developer. Not at the top of the class, but I do a good job. I survived two general layoffs and other little layoffs they are having but keeping quiet about. I hear things.

The problem is I feel too good now to do this but too bad to enjoy life. I know I will never enjoy life. This is an over 30 year trend. Some people are happy, some are miserable. It is difficult to live almost continuously feeling an undercurrent of fear, worry, discontentment and helplessness. I can talk and joke around and sound happy but under it all is something different that seems unchangable and a permanent part of my being. I need to realize the details of what I never accomplished in life and to be convinced the future is merely a continuation of the past - WHICH IT ALWAYS has been. I am making a list of items that will provide motivation to do the exit plan, it won't be published. I always had hope that maybe things will improve especially if I make big attempts to change my life. I made many big changes in the past two years but everything is still the same. Life is over. Even though I look good, dress well, well groomed - nails, teeth, hair, etc. Who knows.

What is it like to be dead? I always think I am forgetting something, that's one reason I postponed. Similar to when you leave to get in your car to go somewhere - you hesitate with a thought: "what am I forgetting?". In this case, I cannot make a return trip!

I like to write and talk. Ironic because I haven't met anybody recently (past 30 years) who I want to be close friends with OR who want to be close friends with me. I was always open to suggestions to what I am doing wrong, no brother or father (mine are useless) or close friend to nudge me and give it bluntly yet tactfully wtf I am doing wrong. A personal coach or someone who knows what he is doing would be perfect. Money is highly secondary for a solution.

May 5, 2009:
To pull the exit plan off, it popped into my mind to just use some booze. I want to do this before I get laid off, for reasons not worth mentioning but don't seem to have the balls. After the gym, I stopped at Shop N Save and got a fifth of vodka and a small bottle of Jack Daniels. I haven't had a drink since September 1, 1988, just over 20 years. It doesn't matter now, I need to use it to take the edge off of carrying out the exit plan. I will be taking some every now and then to get used to it and see if the alcohol effects will embolden me. Weed would be fun to try again. I don't know who has any. Life is over, who cares? I just need to use common sense, can't drink and drive, etc. This idea just hit me at a point in time and I immediately acted on it. Same thing happened when I decided to go back to Pitt full time, first day was Monday, May 8, 1989, and to buy the house that closed on Friday, September 30, 1996, to name two examples I remember so well.

The list idea yesterday is working. I carry it in my wallet and add to it. I am feeling to good to do carry this out, but too bad to enjoy ANYTHING. My life's dilema.

May 6, 2009:
I started the JD. About one ounce with some tea to get me started. No big deal.

May 7, 2009:
Went to the gym and did mostly cardio. My heart rate was 117 just from walking on the treadmill at 3.4. This should be done a few times a week for maybe 15 mins or so to keep the heart active. I sprinted a few times to push the limits.

May 18, 2009:
I actually had a date today. It was with a woman I met on the bus in March. We got together at Two PPG Place for lunch. The last date for me was May 1, 2008. Women just don't like me. There are 30 million desirable women in the US (my estimate) and I cannot find one. Not one of them finds me attractive. I am looking at The List I made from my May 4th idea. I forgot about that for several days. That tells me where I stand. These problems have gotten worse over a 30 year period. I need to expect nothing from me or other people. All through the years I thought we had the ability to change ourselves - I guess that is incorrect. Looking at The List makes me realize how TOTALLY ALONE, a deeper word is ISOLATED, I am from all else.
I no longer have any expectations of myself. I have no options because I cannot work toward and achieve even the smallest goals. That is, ABOVE ALL, what bothers me the most. Not to be able to work towards what I want in my life. I believe I am deserve that. I read recently it is called "self efficacy", but who knows. Is that more psychobable?

May 25, 2009:
I was invited to a picnic, and I went. An older woman there, out of the blue, asked if I liked high school. Then quickly asked if I was picked on very much. Intersting why she would ask that. But, thanks, I already know what the problem is, but a solution eludes me.

May 29, 2009:
Another lonely Friday night, I'm done. This is too much.

June 2, 2009:
Some people I was talking with believed I date a lot and get around with women. They think this because I showed an email I got from a hot woman to the department gossip, but it didn't work out. All this is funny. Actually, I haven't had sex since I was 29 years old, 19 years ago. That's true.

June 5, 2009:
I was reading several posts on different forums and it seems many teenage girls have sex frequently. One 16 year old does it usually three times a day with her boyfriend. So, err, after a month of that, this little hoe has had more sex than ME in my LIFE, and I am 48. One more reason. Thanks for nada, bitches! Bye.

July 4, 2009:
Wow, already late evening. I stayed in all day. Can't believe there was NOTHING to do today. No parties or picnics. WTF. No need to leave now.

July 20, 2009:
Been a long time since last write. Everything still sucks. But I got a promotion and a raise, even in this shitty Obama ecomomy. No more grunt programming. Go figure! New boss is great. He tactfully says when you did something wrong or complements on good things. Never confused with him. But that is NOT what I want in life. I guess some of us were simply meant to walk a lonely path. I have slept alone for over 20 years. Last time I slept all night with a girlfriend it was 1982. Proof I am a total malfunction. Girls and women don't even give me a second look ANYWHERE. There is something BLATANTLY wrong with me that NO goddam person will tell me what it is. Every person just wants to be fucking nice and say nice things to me. Flattery. Oh yeah, I am sure you can get a date anytime. You look good, etc. Pussies.
Awwww, wait. I can just start being self-righteous and say I live a good, clean life. I am holy, that's all Rick Knapp stuff. Hear that you mother fucker: I Am Just Good!

July 23, 2009:

Wow!!

I just looked out my front window and saw a beautiful college-age girl leave Bob Fox's house, across the street. I guess he got a good lay today. College girls are hoez. I masturbate. Frequently. He is about 45 years old. She was a long haired, hot little hottie with a beautiful bod. I masturbate. Frequently. Some were simply meant to walk a lonely path in life. I don't usually look out, but just happened to notice. Holy fuck. I have masturbated since age 13. Thanks, mum and brother (by blood alone). And dad, old man, for TOTALLY ignoring me through the years. All of you DEEPLY helped me be this way.

I wish I can go back to 1975 and fix things. Awe, that wont work, big BULLY BROTHER would assert his bull shit. He was twice my size. He never messed with guys bigger than 5'10, or so. He is a PUSSY at heart. Remember, Michael is my brother (we have common parents, that's all) is still a BOSS. Repetition only for emphasis: HE IS ONLY A BULLY, even at 50ish! Never forget that! Because he exudes confidence. People believe bull shit if delivered WITH CONFIDENCE. Get it??

On the same thought, things occured to me today. Michael NEVER had an attractive girlfriend. Debbie, Barb, Kim, ... then I lost track. Not to say I had any (execpt Pam, who was about a 7.25). He married a Chinese-descent, petite woman with no body, no ass, no chest and no personality. She never laughs or smiles, neither does he. But she is highly intelligent and an excellent cook. I can testify to that! She home bakes her own DELICIOUS wheat bread! But who cares about that type of small bull crap? Mike even mentioned when we were visiting dad that "she's not very attractive".

I don't know where I am going with this. I am getting tired, feels good to write and get it all out.

On still another thought, I had 20+ years of sobriety and achieved nothing about friendships, girlfriends, guys, etc. Zilch. What a waste.

Bye, for today.

August 2, 2009:
The biggest problem of all is not having relationships or friends, but not being able to achieve and acquire what I desire in those or many other areas. Everthing stays the same regardless of the effert I put in. If I had control over my life then I would be happier. But for about the past 30 years, I have not

August 3, 2009:
I took off today, Monday, and tomorrow to practice my routine and make sure it is well polished. I need to work out every detail, there is only one shot. Also I need to be completely immersed into something before I can be successful. I haven't had a drink since Friday at about 2:30. Total effort needed. Tomorrow is the big day.

Unfortunately I talked to my neighbor today, who is very positive and upbeat. I need to remain focused and absorbed COMPLETELY. Last time I tried this, in January, I chickened out. Lets see how this new approach works.

Maybe soon, I will see God and Jesus. At least that is what I was told. Eternal life does NOT depend on works. If it did, we will all be in hell. Christ paid for EVERY sin, so how can I or you be judged BY GOD for a sin when the penalty was ALREADY paid. People judge but that does not matter. I was reading the Bible and The Integrity of God beginning yesterday, because soon I will see them.

I will try not to add anymore entries because this computer clicking distracts me.

Also, any of the "Practice Papers" left on my coffee table I used or the notes in my gym bag can be published freely. I will not be embarased, because, well, I will be dead. Some people like to study that stuff. Maybe all this will shed insight on why some people just cannot make things happen in their life, which can potentially benefit others.



Miscellaneous:

1. Probably 99% of the people who know me well don't even think I was this crazy. Told by at least 100 girls/women over the years I was a "nice guy". Not kidding.

2. Lee Ann Valdiserri had my baby in early 1991. Haven't seen her since she was about four months into it. I knew her sister, Chris, from high school.

3. Net worth slightly more than $250K, (after all debt) as of end of 2008.

4. Death Lives!

© 2009 George Sodini
This should not be taken off the web. It is obviously my view and opinion.
Reproduce this as you wish, in its entirity.
**Copy this to usenet/newsgroups where my voice will speak forever!**
Don't modify it, you can correct my spelling errors, I used WordPad.
Unless the names are required legally to be blotted out, then fine. Thanks.

[slackmaster]

1. K&U for posting racist, misogynist drivel in full when a link would suffice

:kick:

[justiceischeap]

3. I think the poster is posting in full because he suspects the site to go down

Therefore, no longer available.

[wndycty]

7. Exactly. . .I was extremely offended by it so I posted it because I suspect it will be taken down

. . .we need to see this, we need to read this because the media has already talked about it and only mentioned his misogyny not his racism. This needs to be read.

[slackmaster]

17. I suppose it's possible that you were the only person on the Interwebz to think of that

:D

[wndycty]

21. No I am sure there were others, however there are DUers who will want to see this guys. . .

. . .rantings so why make them go elsewhere?

[Stephanie]

2. That's an unfair assumption

That's really not right, you should reconsider that statement.

[wndycty]

10. I said "very likely" not "definitely", there is a huge difference

:kick:

[Stephanie]

18. It's completely unfair

I know they're assholes but they don't deserve that comparison. You have no such knowledge.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

34. No. They don't. Its not like they have had members who send fake anthrax letters, shot up...

......Holocaust Museums, openly talk about killing liberals and openly talk of insurrection. Oh wait.

[qanda]

4. I'm not so sure about that, sounds like he hated everybody

BTW, Pittsburgh has an "h" at the end of it.

[BeyondGeography]

5. Beware the guy who can't get laid

Reads like his main problem was sexual, not political.

[bullwinkle428]

59. EXACTLY - that was the thing that screamed out at me through the whole deal!

"WHY WON'T WOMEN HAVE SEX WITH ME???!?!?!??"

[reflection]

6. He's definitely a racist, but this excerpt

doesn't exactly scream "right wing" to me. What is clear is that he was a very unhappy guy with some real bad attitudes toward women and minorities.



Andy Pulkowski - I have been in barrooms and church groups. The worst people by far are the religious types. Especially a right-wing, stiff-faced fundie like Andy. A condescending, demeaning, passive-aggresive person. Frigid, rigid, linear and totally inflexible. Being a very serious person, he cannot hide his frown-lined face. He better not try to smile; lest his face might crack. I knew children of parents who grew up in strict religious homes. Religion has a certain stink to it of guilt, shame, fear, and that moral standard that always contradicts the natural tendencies and desires of a person. Therin lies the conflict. Young person cannot experiment with things to decide on their own and establish their own parameters. So they tend to cut loose and really rebel much worse than the average young person. Ma and Pa never know what goes on. They easily BS their parents because they want to believe their little one is an angel. Andy has a young daughter Bethany Pulkowski away at college, High Point University. I saw her picture on his desk. She's your basic, attractive, young girl. Please reread my entry made on Nov 5th. That's only one thing she can do. You Andy types out there need to further strengthen your strict resolve and do more of the same thing! Because those girls were great when I recall my college years! She is someone's (or many guy's) little hoe now, I am sure.

Another point about andy. How can someone be cold, vicious, sarcastic and generally nasty ALL THE TIME and then make the claim about their church life and how good they are? Total hypocritical idiots.

That's all for now. That felt good.

[supernova]

8. He seems to have been desperately lonely and depressed

No friends, no family, no interests outside of work.

He seems smypathetic to the mentality of freeperland, but here there's no evidence that he posted there so far.

edit: Just read the first part about an old girlfriend being pregnant in 1991. Wonder why he didn't stick around. Most people, even ill people, will stick around for the kid's sake.

[panader0]

9. Wow! What a sick person.

[DrDan]

11. that was spooky - reading this chronology

but why did you tie him to FR? Did I miss something?

[crim son]

12. The man is obviously a conservative nutjob,

but what makes you believe he's a FReeper? Did you look at his pic? Creepy, he looks like your average guy.

It's interesting to read that he excuses his plans on the grounds that all his "sins" are forgiven, no matter how heinous.

[Xenotime]

13. Creepy that people think like that.

[Joanne98]

14. Doesn't sound like anyone to me. Just a really lonely guy,

Why didn't he try eharmony.com?

[Heidi]

22. I'm no analyist, but I think lack of a partner probably was a symptom,

but not the source, of his problems. I do agree, though: his writings strike me as those of a profoundly lonely (and angry) person. And I find it sad that three or four other people lost their lives because he didn't get the help he obviously needed and had the resources (financial, anyway) to access.

[redqueen]

30. He probably did.

I'm sure the importance he obviously placed on looks and sex as well as his bitterness affected his relationships.

[The Straight Story]

15. He didn't seem to like religion, does not sound like a rw'er to me (nt)

[wndycty]

19. Saying he isn't a rightwinger because religion is like saying someone is not progressive . . .

. . .because they go to church. Think about it.

[The Straight Story]

23. The op mentioned being a poster on FR

Read FR for awhile - people there mostly respect and see value in faith/religion (even if they are assholes and don't get the faith). Then read DU and see how people see religion here.

And I did think about it. In general people on the right have a religious nature in a higher percent than those on the left. It is not black or white, just a numbers game.

[wndycty]

25. I know more than a few right wingers who are not religious

:kick:

[Heidi]

24. He's criticizing every stereotypical rightwing behavior -- not just religion.

Think about it.

Especially a right-wing, stiff-faced fundie like Andy. A condescending, demeaning, passive-aggresive person. Frigid, rigid, linear and totally inflexible.

[Recursion]

55. Yeah but I just don't read this guy as RWer

Just a very lonely and angry nihilist.

[bullwinkle428]

61. Ayn Randers are some of the most anti-religion people around,

not necessarily saying that this particular guy sounds Randian in his screed.

[sharesunited]

16. Fascinating, but everybody has grievances, demons, etc. Access to guns and ammo is the issue.

"Probably 99% of the people who know me well don't even think I was this crazy."

Surprise!

We musn't punish law abiding gun owners. We must punish the guilty.

He's dead too!

Oh. Good then.

Thanks Second Amendment!

Such A Tragedy, Now Carry On Dying.

[raccoon]

20. THanks for the heads up. I suspect the blog will be yanked soon.

He sounds like a real sicko.

[Historic NY]

26. Sounds more like a sexually immature wacko unable to relate to real people.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

38. AKA - A freeper

[scheming daemons]

50. +10. That description applies to the overwhelming majority of freepers

[nebenaube]

27. Loser...

I'm fairly certain that anyone who considered dating him... googled him, read his blog and backed away as fast as they could.

[blogslut]

28. Sad, isolated and most likely, mentally ill

I suppose we'll find out more on this man and the life he led before he killed innocent women and then himself.

Shutting oneself off from help and community is devastatingly destructive. None of us should ever put ourselves in the position where the only thoughts we hear are our own.

[raccoon]

114. This one's a keeper,

"None of us should ever put ourselves in the position where the only thoughts we hear are our own."


Well said! :hi:

[Blue_Tires]

29. Very creepy...tough to read...

He was in serious need of psychological help...I've had long stretches of unemployment, loneliness, isolation, women problems, bad dates and feeling unloved, and at the lowest points of my life I've scratched out frustrated, angry things in my journal not too far from his blog posts...If only he tried to get help before he snapped (it made all the difference in my case)...

[Alcibiades]

31. Pathetic

Completely sex obsessed, but no clue about how to get on with women. He apparently expected a woman to fall into his lap because he is, after all, entitled to a woman. He seems to be smart enough, but never asked himself "What do women really want" and work backward from that.

He just went and murdered women because he was inherently unlovable. Judging from the ages of the victims, he has not only deprived these women of their lives but also some other men of their wives and some children of their mothers, not to mention all the pain he's caused those he injured. All because he was a broken man.

Also heartless was the fact that he named his child's mother. Here's someone who indicts his father as a "sperm donor," but then has a child with whom he has no contact. Oh, and now that child has to go through life knowing that this fucker was his dad.

[lapislzi]

32. This freaks me out in a major way

So sad that this individual could not seek the help he so desperately needed.

[dysfunctional press]

33. what particular part of the ramble makes you think he was a free republic poster...?

i didn't see anything that resembled any kind of reference to the site...:shrug:

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

35. I Found Nothing Indicating That, And Think It's Actually A Longshot.

Just read the whole thing, and there were actually a few parts that would directly contradict your theory. In reality, politically he was likely an independent that really didn't follow politics nearly as closely as you surmise.

This was a man eaten alive by his loneliness and isolation. Literally eaten alive. That turned to resentment and bitterness beyond that which you can imagine. He was totally messed up in the head. But a freeper? Not likely. Don't err in thinking that the only people who can speak racial stereotypes or have misogynistic tendencies are freepers.

[scheming daemons]

49. "I got a promotion and a raise, even in this shitty Obama ecomomy."

Sounds like he was a little bit political to me.

...and on the right of the political spectrum.


Who, in their right mind, could objectively call this the "Obama Economy" just 7 months in?

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

54. You're Cherry Picking.

You're reading way too deeply into it. We all know the economy is shitty. He hears tidbits from coworkers etc, he knows obama is president, he calls it obama's economy. Whoopdee fucking doo.

You're way too closed minded as you're reading his diary. I could cherry pick things in it to display he was a left wing liberal if I wanted to. But that would be bullshit too. Fact is, he was likely nothing more than a man eaten alive by his life, who was independently affiliated as it related to politics, and who was far more obsessed with his loneliness than any sort of political spectrum.

Likely a freeper? Likely not.

[scheming daemons]

63. Well... maybe not literally a FreeRepublic denizon... but misogynistic, racist, bigoted...etc..

...all the traits of a wingnut.


He hated women. Treated them as objects meant for sex only. Used the term "hoe" more than 50 Cent.

His paragraph at the beginning about black men and white women was a racist screed.



I don't know if he LITERALLY posted at freerepublic, but he shared their world view toward minorities and women.

That's pretty fucking clear in his manifesto.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

64. Open Your Mind.

[scheming daemons]

68. Look... there's no doubt he was extremely lonely....

But the reason he hadn't gotten laid in 20 years was because he was an asshole toward women and only considered them as sex objects.

His mysogeny is precisely why his life was fucked up.

If he treated women with respect, he might've had some companionship the past 20 years.

He was lonely because he was an asshole.


If you can't see that in his diary, I wonder what you were reading. It's evident throughout.

[spiritual_gunfighter]

81. I doubt this guy was even political

and definitely not a Freeper. He describes someone as a "right wing religious guy", this was a sick person who had no social skills and couldn't relate to anyone. That doesn't make you a Freeper.

[scheming daemons]

83. Really? Read this:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6224812

Do "non-political" types usually have siglines that say:

"Stop Socialism: Impeach Clinton!"

?

[spiritual_gunfighter]

103. Nothing in the OP indicated that he was a freeper

which was the point of the OP. This is a different story.

[lumberjack_jeff]

56. On the other hand...

"Idiots:

Andy Pulkowski - I have been in barrooms and church groups. The worst people by far are the religious types. Especially a right-wing, stiff-faced fundie like Andy. A condescending, demeaning, passive-aggresive person. Frigid, rigid, linear and totally inflexible. Being a very serious person, he cannot hide his frown-lined face. He better not try to smile; lest his face might crack. I knew children of parents who grew up in strict religious homes. Religion has a certain stink to it of guilt, shame, fear, and that moral standard that always contradicts the natural tendencies and desires of a person."

The amateur psychoanalysis is ultimately pointless. No one has net to show any evidence that he was a FR poster.

[lumberjack_jeff]

53. I have to agree.

I doubt he was politically active at all.

[Gwendolyn]

66. Good observation, and I agree.

I would add that women can often sense the bitterness and misogyny lurking inside and would have probably been instantly repelled, further compounding his problems and creating a vicious circle.

Now innocent women, complete strangers, are dead and critically injured by him. Terrible.

[scheming daemons]

79. Do non-political types have the tagline "Stop Socialism: Impeach Clinton" when they post on UseNet?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6224812

Sorry. He was a wingnut.

That's not the ONLY thing wrong with him.

But that's what he was.

[redqueen]

84. Well there it is...

if the 'liberal media' crap and the sexism and the racism and the anti-Obama stuff wasn't enough... that oughtta do it.

[brendan120678]

36. And by posting this shit....

We are "honoring" this freak's last wishes.

This should not be taken off the web. It is obviously my view and opinion.
Reproduce this as you wish, in its entirity.
**Copy this to usenet/newsgroups where my voice will speak forever!**

[Enrique]

37. too narcissistic to be interested in politics

he only cared about number 1.

[slackmaster]

46. I agree with Enrique

The guy was completely self-absorbed.

[Eric J in MN]

92. There are multiple references to Obama in the OP. NT

NT

[redqueen]

39. Maybe just possible...

I guess the "liberal media" idiocy could be read as an indicator that he's yet another example of a dangerous freeper nutjob... but that might only mean that he's garden-variety stupid... and not the high-grade stupid that most freeps are.

[FarCenter]

40. I'd guess that his relationships with women soured over control issues

It seems likely that he would be unable to interact on equal terms with them. He would likely attempt to dominate them, be disrespectful of them, and probably he was abusive as well.

With all the hookers in the world, it is too bad that he didn't patronize some of them.

[redqueen]

42. He was involved in church for a long time.

He blamed his church for some of his problems, didn't he? Maybe he was too repressed to try that outlet.

[FarCenter]

73. You are right -- he was involved with a cult-like church

The following excerpt is key -- emphasis added --

Tetelestai Church in Pittsburgh, PA - "Be Ye Holy, even as I have been Ye holy! Thus saith the lord thy God!", as pastor Rick Knapp would proclaim. Holy shit, religion is a waste. But this guy teaches (and convinced me) you can commit mass murder then still go to heaven. Ask him. Call him at [phone]. If no answer there, he should still live at 439 9th Street, Oakmont, PA 15139. In any case, guilt and fear kept me there 13 long years until Nov 2006. I think his crap did the most damage. Their web site: http://www.tetelestai.org .

Rick Knapp is a follower of Robert B. Thieme, Jr.

From another cached blog --

Pastor Alan Knapp of Tetelestai Church here in Pittsburgh, PA was ordained by Thieme, as was many other pastors currently scattered throughout the country. I spent about 15 years going to Tetelestai Church.

Thieme graduated from the Dallas Theological Seminary. Thieme is very controversial. In fact there are many who claim he ran a cult. The Cult Education Forum at www.rickross.com has an entire thread just on Thieme.

Some of Thieme’s controversial subjects include but are not limited to the following: “The blood of Christ”, “right man right woman”, “the appeal trial of satan”, and “right pastor”. The blood of Christ is by far the biggest. One can go to google and see for themselves.

[FarCenter]

78. More on the R B Thieme "right man right woman" doctrine

From a blog:

I was involved in RBT teaching in his heydey in the 70's. Many of us 20 somethings moved to Houston to go to Berachah in those days. Bible study every night, movies on Saturday night. I was there when RBT3 got married and divorced. I found my "right man" there and was married to him briefly. If wives asked questions, they were told to be quiet. We were supposed to be subservient. I lived in an apartment complex next to the church, many other young people lived there. We all sat in the same group of seats every night. Most of the married ones divorced, few that I knew stayed together. The man was the power, like RBT. How his wife must have suffered all those years. Rumors abounded about RBT and his secretary, but who knew?

It was all very closed and we were not open to relationships with people outside of the group. How could you relate to others when your views with RBT were so narrow minded? It was drummed into you every night. But I did love the lecture type teaching, as a Catholic, it was all very interesting and different. I had books and books of notes.

It was interesting that I went to Houston because my asst pastor in my home state, he and his wife very dear friends, taught Thieme principals. RBT was the guru.....so I went to mecca, hoping to find whatever it was I was looking for. Of course, when I got a divorce, my very dear friends, in my home church and Berachah would have nothing to do with me. When things went wrong, the wife was blamed. It took me years to get over this abandonment and the guilt that went with it. I didn't fit in, I wasn't submissive enough, etc. I tried to call my old friends many times, but was told they didn't want to speak with me. I have since run into them, all in our 50's and they acted like old friends!! I find it ironic that they are big time missionaries out "saving" people and they found it very easy to abandon people who did not meet up to their standards. All through my 30's and 40's I went through stages of absolutely hating religion and church and anything to do with hypocritical Christians. I still see most born again Christians as hypocritical, but the time at Berachah was definitely a life lesson that I look back on and wish had never happened. I don't know how RBT3 is, but be cautious if you are thinking of going there. Once on Sundays is enough....

[redqueen]

86. Holy crap... no wonder he had issues with women...

he probably expected an attractive, submissive partner... and no doubt women picked up on that. Yikes.

[sufrommich]

41. This guy doesn't sound like freeper material to me. nt

[snooper2]

43. "Why do this?? To young girls? Just read below. "

To young girls...

you sure about that

[zbdent]

44. I wonder if this post is a result of that premise ...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6224054

no doubt scrubbing their hard drives ...

[Jennicut]

45. He was angry at women for sure. Blamed them and others for his problems.

Sounds like he was a conservative (dislike of Obama) and a racist but not a religious nut. He seemed to be pushing people away...he definitely needed help but chose to hurt others and then himself.

[Beetwasher]

47. "Christ paid for EVERY sin..."

Ahh, religion. So useful.

[Sebastian Doyle]

110. Sickens me when Repukes misinterpret Christ's teachings on sin.

Without getting into a whole debate on Christ or sin themselves.... just accepting the definitions as stated in the Bible, for sake of argument.....

Jesus forgave sin, and upon doing so, said "Go and sin no more". He definitely would not have said "Go and do whatever the fuck ye want, and verily I'll still let thy ass into Heaven, because you're cool with Me now". And obviously, mass killings would be an express train ride to Lake of Fire station, Hell. :evilfrown:

[Beetwasher]

111. Well, That's The Problem

Who's interpretation is correct? Who's definitions are correct? :shrug:

Yes, you think your interpretation is correct, but they think there's are. And god ain't clarifying a damn thing for anyone.

[gkhouston]

48. Spending time wondering who isn't and isn't a freeper... is a waste of time. n/t

[newspeak]

60. apparently, he also had issues with his brother

I wonder if he was bullied in school and also bullied by his brother. Instead of having an older brother who defended him from others, he may have had the brother from "Weird Science", who added to his problems.

[Recursion]

51. This guy's a lot more lucid than your average Freeper NT

[Vickers]

52. "Net worth slightly more than $250K, (after all debt)"

Jeez, go on a vacation, and skip the carnage.

[raccoon]

116. Jeez, how about get some therapy? nt

[Enrique]

57. his baby mama appears to be deceased

I wonder if he even knew or cared. I wonder about the kid.

http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/postgazette/obituary.aspx?page=lifestory&pid=117527717

VALDISERRI NOELLE M.

On Saturday, September 13, 2008, Noelle, 28, of Jefferson Hills; Beloved daughter of Paul B. and Nancy C. (Malenka) Valdiserri of South Park Twp.; sister of Paul C. Valdiserri and the late Mario T. Valdiserri; Granddaughter of Paul D. and Myrna Valdiserri of Arizona; Niece of Victoria (Tom) McGrath, Tina (Leo) Gabryelski, Mindy Savatt, Michael (Lori) Malenka and the late Lee Ann Valdiserri; Goddaughter of Thomas (Joanne) Rostek. Services and Interment private. A Memorial Service will be held at a later date.
Send condolences at post-gazette.com/gb

[katanalori]

134. interesting.........

I wonder how she died (murdered?). Maybe this guy killed before? Pure speculation, of course.

[Kievan Rus]

58. When I heard it was a class of all women, I knew it was a wingnut

This guy is a total wingnut...the whole package...racist, misogynist, homophobic, self-righteous, misinterpretation of the Bible. He's a white male of course; was probably pissed off that he had to share society with those that weren't like him.

Wingnuts like this hate anybody who is not white, not male, not heterosexual, not socially conservative and not Protestant.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

65. Whoa Are You Way Off.

[Kievan Rus]

72. Well he was a raving misogynist psychotic

This has little to do with politics, you're right. He bashes Obama, but then he bashes the right wing as well. Appears more like he hated the entire political spectrum.

It's more about lonliness, and a general hatred of women. Which is a characteristic of hardcore wingnuts, but you appear to be right and he wasn't one. While all wingnuts are misogynists, not all misogynists are wingnuts.

[Eric J in MN]

94. Where did he bash the right wing? NT

NT

[bvar22]

104. I seldom agree with you, OMC.

But today, you are right on the money.

Many here are trying to make this guy into a "Freeper" based on nothing but a very selective gathering of phrases and his photograph. Why they are so desperate to do so raises other questions.

He was a profoundly sick individual whose problems go beyond mere lack of social skills.
His story reminds me of the experiments done in the early 60s where a baby chimpanzee was given a wireframe doll for a "mother" and was allowed no contact with other chimps. This chimp grew into an isolated adult unable to form even superficial relationships with other chimps.

Dismissing this individual by labeling him a freeper, or a misogynist, or a racist, or a conservative is
missing the bigger picture.
He is lacking the basic software to form even those negative relationships.

[truth2power]

120. Bingo! see my post #119. n/t

[GaYellowDawg]

62. What a complete head case.

The guy wasn't bad looking, he had a respectable job, tons of money in the bank (I cannot imagine having a net worth of $250K after debt). In this economy, he'd gotten a promotion and a raise, had a good guy for a boss, had an upbeat neighbor, apparently managed to get a date - holy shit, how many people would trade for that? He had all those positives in his life and he wanted to whine about getting picked on in 1975 and not getting laid.

A good therapist could have worked wonders with this guy.

[SidDithers]

67. That's chilling. Thanks for posting and saving for posterity...nt

Sid

[bermudat]

69. What happened to copying only 4 paragraphs?

I don't post very often but can remember when I was admonished by moderators for copying more than 4

paragraphs. Now entire articles are copied and posted. Guess it was just me. For the record,

it is vile.

[redqueen]

75. Those are standard fair use guidelines.

The author of this gave permission to post it... so it's exempt.

So no, it wasn't just you. Hardly anything ever is, you know.

[newportdadde]

70. This guys issue wasn't politics it was being alone.

People like George are around us all the time, not at his level obviously but they are there. Reading these entires seems to me that over the course of two decades he just slowly went crazy. How many Georges are out there are just lucky enough to stumble upon someone and fall in love or have a close supportive friend or family member.

Reading his posts he swings back and forth across some a wide range of spectrums I can't peg him. The guy needed help, whats ironic is that he made these comments so damn public I mean the url is his freaking name for crying out loud yet nobody read it apparently.

[scheming daemons]

71. He was alone because he was a dick toward women

You don't get "laid" if your worldview is such that all women are "hoes".

[redqueen]

76. That's not what the 'pick up artists' say. (nt)

[Bluerthanblue]

80. I agree- this isn't politically motivated- or even politically

stereotypical- It might make some people feel better about what he did, to class him as one of "them"- (wing-nut) But the incredibly sad truth is that we are all more like him than we'd like to believe. And the capacity to go as far off track or as deep into mental illness exists in all of us.

There is a LOT of self loathing hidden between the lines he wrote. That and loneliness, isolation, despair, and emptiness.
Those issues are ones that can affect anyone-

:shrug:

It's a damn shame he felt the need (and was able) to destroy others in his mission to destroy himself.


What a world this is.

[LanternWaste]

74. He sounds like every other guy who thinks...

He sounds like almost every other guy who thinks they're a bit more clever than everyone else, yet not clever enough to realize they put people off to the degree they do.

False Pride and False Victimization seem like a deadly combination.

[reflection]

85. Well said.

I enjoy reading most of your posts. You always seem to say something thought-provoking, and don't waste a lot of words saying it. Not that you needed my affirmation, but for what it's worth...

[LanternWaste]

128. Thank you...

Thank you. I don't respond very well to compliments, but... y'know-- thanks for that! :hi:

[BlooInBloo]

115. +1

[nashville_brook]

77. obviously deeply clinically depressed for his whole adult life -- >

..."The problem is I feel too good now to do this but too bad to enjoy life. I know I will never enjoy life. This is an over 30 year trend. Some people are happy, some are miserable. It is difficult to live almost continuously feeling an undercurrent of fear, worry, discontentment and helplessness. I can talk and joke around and sound happy but under it all is something different that seems unchangable and a permanent part of my being. I need to realize the details of what I never accomplished in life and to be convinced the future is merely a continuation of the past - WHICH IT ALWAYS has been."

what's really sad is that it sounds like he starts to get his head above water enough to realize how much of life has passed him by, only to re-double his plan. this man needed antidepressants and counseling.

[truth2power]

119. Thank you. My take on it, too. Just reading through it once..

can't peg him exactly. Would have to go over it again to get a real sense of what's going on.

But clinical depression came to mind more than once. Also, "no sense of self" keeps surfacing. Lacking in ego strength. Not trying to get into psycho-babble, but that's what comes to me.

All the stuff about him being a freeper is beside the point, IMO.

I'm glad this was posted. It's profoundly important that someone get a handle on what motivates an individual to carry out such heinous acts. The more we understand, the better the chance to prevent future events like this.

Just my $.02.

[deaniac21]

82. Sounds more like a member of the Outfit.

[northernlights]

87. "loneliness is the pain the hurts all over."

How incredibly sad. 30+ years of clinical, suicidal depression. Unable to get appropriate help. Unable to find relief. Unable to find a purpose outside himself.

Since I've struggled with depression and isolation much of my life, I can understand his suffering. It is real and it is a terrible thing. I remember the (true life) movie made about a young guy that gets caught smuggling heroin and is imprisoned in an Asian country. In one letter home he wrote, "Loneliness is the pain that hurts all over."

I understand his giving up. I don't understand the need to take random, innocent others with him.

[DarbyUSMC]

88. Judging (and who am I to judge) or guessing --- From his words and his picture ----

Being an amateur profiler I'd say he was a repressed gay man who never owned that in himself, so had a miserable life trying to have some kind of a physical relationship with women. Of course, women picked up on his sexual preference, and due to his not acknowledging it, women couldn't even be friends with him, as they are with many gay men. He didn't fit in anywhere and got short changed as a child with his apparently uncaring parents and bully of a brother. It's very sad.

I didn't see any political leanings ----- he ran down right wingers as well as his negative comment about Obama. There are millions of people in the country who do not think about politics at all. There are even more people who live lonely lives but do not kill people. Some take their own lives as is their prerogative. There is help out there but it is hidden to those who are so far gone because all they can see is their own misery. Tragic for the people killed and injured and for this poor soul.

It's a shame that one person who crossed his path couldn't have connected with him. I'll remember that the next time my first instinct is to write people off if they are too weird.


Thank you for posting and giving insight.

[scheming daemons]

90. "Stop Socialism: Impeach Clinton"

That was his signature when posting on UseNet in the '90s.


Still think he wasn't political?

[hfojvt]

89. some of it seemed to me that he coulda posted on DU

"Idiots:

Andy Pulkowski - I have been in barrooms and church groups. The worst people by far are the religious types. Especially a right-wing, stiff-faced fundie like Andy. A condescending, demeaning, passive-aggresive person. Frigid, rigid, linear and totally inflexible."

[dugaresa]

91. I read it in full and it makes me sad for him. The poor guy was depressed, severely for years

it appears he had a rough childhood and although he was outwardly successful, he had a hard time connecting with other people specifically women

I don't know that he was a racist or even a freeper as much as his experiences had him looking for excuses and that is also how depression can twist someone's mind around.

It is so sad, one person's untreated depression leads to the deaths of three others and many injured folks who may have more problems as a result.

ugh.

[redqueen]

98. Oh, no... he was a racist. And a misogynist.

Depression doesn't excuse that shit.

[Sheepshank]

93. Ok...so angry frustrated white man can't fully explain, but THIS may

June 2, 2009:
Some people I was talking with believed I date a lot and get around with women. They think this because I showed an email I got from a hot woman to the department gossip, but it didn't work out. All this is funny. Actually, I haven't had sex since I was 29 years old, 19 years ago. That's true.

August 2, 2009:
The biggest problem of all is not having relationships or friends, but not being able to achieve and acquire what I desire in those or many other areas.

May 18, 2009:
<snip> The last date for me was May 1, 2008. Women just don't like me. There are 30 million desirable women in the US (my estimate) and I cannot find one. Not one of them finds me attractive.

December 29, 2008:
Just got back from tanning, been doing this for a while. No gym today, my elbow is sore again. I actually look good. I dress good, am clean-shaven, bathe, touch of cologne - yet 30 million women rejected me - over an 18 or 25-year period. That is how I see it. Thirty million is my rough guesstimate of how many desirable single women there are. A man needs a woman for confidence. He gets a boost on the job, career, with other men, and everywhere else when he knows inside he has someone to spend the night with and who is also a friend. This type of life I see is a closed world with me specifically and totally excluded.

etc etc etc

I guess someone could have/should have clued him in on some appropriate conversation skills. He may have been a more content individual. Just goes to show we are all our brothers' keeper.

[ProgressiveFool]

95. As far as political leaning, I'd call him a "South Park Republican"

He'd probably call himself a libertarian.

The guy hated himself, and assumed that everyone hated himself, so he hated them.

Really odd, since he seems fairly intelligent, and at times he seems to actually realize what his problems are, and take steps to improve like go to the gym and be around other people. Yet he still suffers from a feeling of helplessness.

Has friendly but completely superficial relationships with people, will allow no one to get close. He was disappointed by the earliest close relationships in his life, with a father who seems to have ignored him, and a domineering mother and brother. I suspect that he felt if he ever let anyone else get close, they would just disappoint him. So he's caught in between yearning for intimacy and dreading it.

Ok, now for the part I will get flamed for, and I'm not usually one to get involved in flame wars. I like making fun of Freepers as much as the next guy, but I have to say the rush to label this guy as a Freeper is unseemly. I find it disgusting that someone would take the tragedy that this man made of his life and others, and the cruel way in which he decided to end it, and try to fit that into an ideological stereotype in order to one-up the "other team".

[redqueen]

99. Where did he bash the RW anywhere? He bashed Clinton, he bashed Obama...

he bashed the "liberal media"...

Where's the bashing for the right?

Why the bending over backwards to ignore this guy's political leanings? :wtf:

[bvar22]

105. Why are you working so hard....

...to force this guy into a comfortable little political compartment when he clearly had none?

He was unable to form even the basic negative relationships necessary to be a conservative, or a misogynist, or a "freeper", or a racist.

Check your filters.

[redqueen]

107. I'm not... I'm only working to provide information where it seems to be missing.

Not forcing anything... just providing facts.

What makes you think 'he clearly had none'? Please explain.

Also... what does, "He was unable to form even the basic negative relationships necessary to be a conservative, or a misogynist, or a "freeper", or a racist." mean?

You don't think he was a misogynist? Despite his constant ranting about 'hoes'?

You don't think he was a racist? Despite his theories about black men and white 'hoes'?

[bvar22]

113. His problems go beyond those limits.

He hates everybody, or blames everybody for his inability to form relationships.
You can certainly go through his manifesto and selectively choose passages where he attacks the groups that trigger your filters, but you are missing the bigger picture.

[redqueen]

117. Agree to disagree.

Seems to me that in very selectively choosing the targets he did (both for his hateful bile and for his murderous rampage), he shows his bias.

[krispos42]

96. Creepy

In some respects I can see myself in that, as I sit in this basement room that I rent out with my cat curled up in my lap. Haven't had a girlfriend in a couple of years, etc.


However I'm a heck of a lot younger, I have a kid I love dearly, and my sex life prior to the divorce was a couple of orders of magnitude busier than this poor guys!


And now I'm back to working full time, so I'll actually have some money to date and stuff. :-)


"SWM seeks SF. short, voluptous, monogomous, nymphomaniac with trust fund" :D

[pipi_k]

97. Someone who hates everyone really hates himself

Makes me wonder what type of upbringing he had...

[RamboLiberal]

100. KDKA Radio is reporting that his website didn't go live till yesterday

Interesting if true. Probably wouldn't have made any difference.

[Name removed]

101. Deleted message

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[mshasta]

102. Sexual issue -not racial

he was very frustrated for not having sex for years.....
to me looks like he was an equal opportunity hater.

he talks shit about he's boss, the company, how Christians are the worse, talks about he's bully brother, how can blacks get white girls ....on and on ....sex sex sex sex sex

[redqueen]

108. He never talks shit about right-wingers. Democrats, yes... no Republicans.

Sort of a little imbalance where politics is concerned, at least.

[dorkulon]

123. "right-wing, stiff-faced fundie" -- it's in there.

That's not freeper talk by a longshot.

[malaise]

106. He was a mad ass with two glocks

Now how did he get those killing machines

[cherish44]

109. Maybe he was an Aspie

I've worked with Aspberger people and have formed friendships with some. They're not the "loners" you often hear about. They WANT to be social but don't have social skills, often say inappropriate and do things that creep people out. Aspies are very often very isolated and lonely (and many are very misunderstood). The Aspie friends I've gotten close to are aware of their condition and will tell me up front, "If I'm getting too out of line, let me know..."

This guy seems like he had some pretty deep issues with his dad and brother too. He needed mental help

[proteus_lives]

112. A psycho.

I don't if I would pin a political motive on him. Sounds like his mind was breaking and it could have been anything he focused on. He rants against a lot of things. Scary.

[GreenEyedLefty]

118. Straight up creep. Most likely gave off a creepy vibe.

What is unnerving about this is that we all know people like him. I know I do.

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[WeDidIt]

122. One seriously mentally ill human being

It's sad, really.

Nobody noticed how lonely he was, and a little therapy may ahve actually gone a long way, thiough not likely. He seems dissocial to my layperson's mind.

[LostInAnomie]

124. I really doubt it.

His writing weren't overly political, and the motivation had nothing to do with RW ideology. He was just a lonely guy that didn't see any point to life anymore.

[rd_kent]

125. It is interesting how he makes a point several times about not having had sex

since 1983, but his last entry says that a woman had his baby in 1991.

[dorkulon]

126. Good catch.

Something wrong there. Maybe he just wanted to mess with the woman's life, rankle the real dad... who knows.

[4lbs]

129. No, he said he hasn't had a girlfriend since 1983, but the last time he had sex was 1990. (n/t)

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[ecstatic]

133. It sounds like the gym was doing wonders for his mental state

but then he went ahead with his murderous plan anyway. If he had kept at it a little longer I'm sure he would have started to make friends.

[ecstatic]

127. an apolitical who is more sympathetic to republicans

is my view. I'm sure he would have felt at home on fr. But he also could have played it off on DU with some safe topics.

[Tangerine LaBamba]

131. I'm not sure the OP read what was posted -

since the shooter writes of being sympathetic to a black caller to a talk show who was treated badly by the host, and later mocks a friend as a "right-wing fundie".

I doubt there was any freeper connection, or that he was at all political. He sounded far too involved in his own head, and that was all there was room for ......................

[NEDem]

130. Why didn't he just buy a 4x4 or a Hummer?

He should have just compensated for his 'issues' like all the other rednecks out there.

[TroglodyteScholar]

132. K&R

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