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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 10:04 PM
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As drunk as having had 10 shots of vodka! AND marijuana.
Edited on Tue Aug-04-09 10:14 PM by closeupready
I am sick and appalled and revolted at that. :mad: :mad:

We need an outrage smilie. :mad:

Re: the Taconic Parkway crash in upstate New York last week that killed eight.
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gatorboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 10:06 PM
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1. Maybe I've had too much marijuana, but...
Whu?
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Uzybone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 10:08 PM
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4. much needed context
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/05/nyregion/05crash.html?hpw

Driver in Wrong-Way Crash That Killed 8 Was Drunk, State Police in New York Say
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Uzybone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 10:07 PM
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2. forget the marijuana
the alcohol alon is more than enough to cause the crash


She could have had the weed 2 weeks ago, but the drinks were fresh.
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Ptah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 10:12 PM
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5. "forget the marijuana"? - - From your link:
She had a blood-alcohol level of 0.19 percent, and even more alcohol still in her stomach, so fresh that it had yet to be metabolized. There were high levels of a chemical found in marijuana, enough to pinpoint her last use at 15 minutes to an hour before her death in the worst traffic accident in Westchester County in 75 years.

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OnyxCollie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 10:46 PM
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9. Forget the marijuana
in the sense that at the point where she was at, it didn't matter much anymore.

It's not like the toke after the 10th shot was the one that put her over the edge.
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CrownPrinceBandar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 10:52 PM
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10. I'm curious how they determined the timeframe since her last use?...
Edited on Tue Aug-04-09 10:53 PM by CrownPrinceBandar
they say there was 113ng/ml in her blood, and since THC takes so long to be shed by the body's fat cells, how did they get the 15 minutes number. I'd like to see the science behind this.

And I agree with you and so does the article: She was drunk.

edit: spelling
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 11:21 PM
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11. Plasma concentration time curve.
http://www.boomer.org/c/p3/c02/c0210.html

PK/PD of THC is well understood.
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TheMadMonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 11:58 PM
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13. No expert, but I'd suspect that it's possible to infer recent usage...
...because THC is not released by body fat at a rate high enough to result that level of THC in the blood.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 10:08 PM
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3. I've only had green tea all day.... so I ought to be able to follow
but, :wtf:
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 10:29 PM
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6. Betcha the MJ had nothing to do with it...and the 10 shots had EVERYTHING to do with it.
n.t.
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armyowalgreens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 10:38 PM
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7. CONTEXT NEEDED. For the love of god. Are we mind readers?
I hate it when OPs are intentionally vague as if it's some sort of inside story.
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Trocadero Donating Member (892 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 10:41 PM
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8. Is it North by Northwest, where they force Cary Grant to drink a bottle of
bourbon and then put him behind the wheel?

That's almost what it seems like - because this is just too bizarre.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 11:23 PM
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12. Huh? If she was THAT drunk, why didn't it show up in the initial autopsy?
Edited on Wed Aug-05-09 12:12 AM by rocktivity
'No medical reason' for Taconic State Parkway crash: Autopsy shows mom Diane Schuler was healthy

(July 29) A preliminary autopsy yesterday uncovered no underlying health problems like a heart attack or stroke. "There is no medical reason for the crash," state police investigator Shannon Morrison said. "Basically, there was nothing wrong with her."

..."We don't feel it was alcohol, drugs or her just being sleepy," said investigator Joseph Becerra. "Witnesses said she drove in her lane perfectly - her driving was not indicative of an intoxicated motorist who swerves all over the road." Police said they don't believe the crash was a suicide...


:crazy:
rocktivity
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 12:01 AM
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14. well, if the *new* report was true, boy was this guy wrong!
..."We don't feel it was alcohol, drugs or her just being sleepy," said investigator Joseph Becerra
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 12:02 AM
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15. I've honestly never seen a story about a stoned driver killing anyone
If anyone has, I would be interested to see. Not that I think driving under the influence of anything is a good idea. But from my experience, when someone is really stoned out of their mind they don't even try to drive a car. And if they do, they usually can't even find their keys and give up after a little while.
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rd_kent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 04:11 PM
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16. And you probably wont either
When pot is the only substance used, crime rate is virtually zero......
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