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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 09:15 PM
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Salon's Handy-Dandy Guide to Refuting Birthers
This is good stuff...


There are, sadly, a lot of Birthers out there. A recent poll showed that 11 percent of Americans -- including 28 percent of Republicans -- don't believe President Obama was born in the U.S. Another 12 percent aren't sure.

So, at some point, you're likely to find out that a friend or relative is a Birther. Your Uncle Floyd will forward you a chain e-mail that says Obama was actually born in Kenya and there's a Kenyan birth certificate that proves it and hundreds of government officials and reporters are in on a conspiracy to hide the truth of his ineligibility for the presidency from the public. And you will wonder: How can I possibly deal with all the falsehoods in this e-mail without disappearing down a rabbit hole?

Well, wonder no more. In the spirit of public service, Salon has compiled this list of the most popular Birther myths, along with all the debunking you could ever ask for. Now you can just e-mail this list to Uncle Floyd and get on with your life.
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http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2009/08/05/birther_faq/



This is one that should be bookmarked by all...


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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 09:29 PM
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1. Lots of recs, but no kicks... so self-kicking...
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 09:33 PM
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2. Very nice.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 09:41 PM
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3. look at all this shit Keyes is demanding
Here's one sent out by Gary Kreep, who's representing Alan Keyes in his lawsuit challenging Obama's eligibility. Read it, and abandon all hope:

* Actual long-form birth certificate (NOT an easily-forged electronic copy of a short-form document that is not even officially accepted in Hawaii)
* Passport files
* University of Chicago Law School scholarly articles
* Harvard Law Review articles
* Harvard Law School records
* Columbia University records
* Columbia University senior thesis, "Soviet Nuclear Disarmament"
* Occidental College records, including financial aid that he may have received
* Punahou School records, where Mr. Obama attended from the fifth grade until he finished high school
* Noelani Elementary School records, where Barack Obama attended kindergarten (according to the Hawaii Department of Education, students must submit a birth certificate to register -- but parents may bring a passport or student visa if the child is from a foreign country)
* Complete files and schedules of his years as an Illinois state senator from 1997 to 2004
* Obama's client list from during his time in private practice with the Chicago law firm of Davis, Miner, Barnhill and Gallard
* Illinois State Bar Association records
* Baptism records
* Obama/Dunham marriage license
* Obama/Dunham divorce documents
* Soetoro/Dunham marriage license
* Soetero/Dunham adoption records

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laconicsax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 09:43 PM
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4. Minor point: There's a difference between belief and non-belief.
Birthers believe that Obama wasn't born in the US. That's different than "don't believe President Obama was born in the U.S."

It's the difference between, "No he wasn't" and "I don't believe you." The former claims something while the latter doesn't.

It's a minor point, but it makes a difference.
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lamp_shade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 03:41 AM
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5. Kick for the early-risers.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 10:05 AM
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6. kick
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Bombenhagel Donating Member (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 05:33 AM
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7. Have some fun with a real live birther - FULL DISCLOSURE INSIDE - DO IT!
Edited on Thu Aug-06-09 05:39 AM by Bombenhagel
If you wanna have some fun with a real live birfer and see for yourselves what kind of a person believes that crap, this is your lucky day!

Spread this as far, wide and deep as you can. His every online secret is exposed, and I even demagogued him a little with Jesus!

I caught this truly repugnant little man hawking his birfer website over at the Huff and did a WHOIS query on it.

Everything kinda just fell into place from there. He said he's a web designer, but it's just a two bit blog with popup-cash ads that don't even work right; standard fare.

My link exposing the birther's identity, full gamut profile, really sick online behavior and shaming him with Bible quotes:

http://www.tinyurl.com/birtherinfo

Redirects to http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=5dcf400a14bd6e168ef1259ff1b60e81e04e75f6e8ebb871

This guy, one David L Wiltshire, Jr. left himself totally exposed as far as web-presence goes. I couldn't resist messing with him.

I hope you understand; this is info war and I am all about it. I never did much but lurk at DU in the past, but I think I could learn to like it here :)

It's time to go hard Left. You guys are just the ticket. Oh, there's also this tool over at Softpedia called Auto Refresh... ;)

hxxp://www.softpedia.com/get/Tweak/Browser-Tweak/Auto-Refresh....

Hearts and minds, people. Remember to use your collective skills as one. I hope to join your ranks. We are already Auto Refreshing recessrally.com and now I can't get it to come up in my browser ;)

You guys have my full permission to use what's in my link however you see fit. I've already blasted it out to 100 people, so no worries at ALL. He's yours. Finish him! One thing I didn't do was to call his parents (numbers included). Maybe after I sleep, I'll try IP-Relay or something so I don't have to talk. Get creative with this punk because it's open season on those who would sabotage honest discourse. I only wish all Pukes were this easy to peg.

hxxp://purpletextrelay.us/
hxxp://callingamerica.com/
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