The Bill Maher videos posted in DU forums now deleted by You Tube.

[madfloridian]

They are various lengths, some just a couple of minutes.

If you go to You Tube and search for Bill Maher you will see many videos there that still work.

What constitutes fair use of HBO videos?

Please tell me why some remain and some are deleted?

Link to You Tube search:

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=%22bill+maher%22&search_type=&aq=f

[Warpy]

1. HBO seems to go through periods of getting stuffy

most notably during the inauguration last winter, when they deleted videos very quickly. If you didn't have HBO, tough shit.

They'll lose interest again, they always seem to.

[madfloridian]

3. But what are their rules?

What do they allow?

Why are the ones I linked to at You Tube still working, and all the ones in DU video not working.

[Zodiak]

2. Youtube has always been spotty about recognizing videos

The ones they have not removed have not been "discovered" by their recognition software yet, but the software is improving and videos are coming down by the hundreds.

And youtube does not give a flying fuck about fair use. Never did....if they have a corporation up their ass about videos, they remove them. Nobody there even thinks for a second whether the company that claims copyright is in the right....they just remove the video without review.

[Buzz Clik]

4. That is curious. Out of frustration, I set my DVR to record the show this afternoon.

I seldom watch Maher, but I've found his performance in this video clips to be increasingly annoying. I figure that watching the entire show will give me a better picture.

[Turborama]

5. Is this the full show on his site?

The Windows Media Player that popped up is taking forever to download. Who the hell uses WMP, anyway? It's the worst player ever, especially for streaming!

http://www.hbo.com/billmaher/webcast/index.html

Why do they have this "fair use" bullshit if they're streaming it? There's no advertising on the site that anyone would miss: http://www.hbo.com/billmaher/

[madfloridian]

6. That is just the Overtime part, after the show. It is just online.

[MindPilot]

7. The content of Bill Maher's show is the property of HBO

Doesn't matter if there is advertising or not, they can do with it as they please.

[mod mom]

8. Does Bill or Jeff Sharlet have the right to post w credit to HBO?

[Turborama]

9. Well it stinks of heavy handed censorship, to me n/t

[Medusa]

13. Nope just ownership

and the corporate media money machine flexing their muscles.

[mod mom]

10. I emailed Jeff Sharlet to see if he has the right to post it w credit to HBO:

Here is an email addy if others would like to contact him:

[e-mail]

[Turborama]

11. Joanne has just added another version on that thread

I find http://www.sothinkmedia.com/web-video-downloader-firefox/">this comes in handy at times like this... ;-)

PS thanks for Jeff's email address, I was looking for Bill's, but only found his agent's.

[izquierdista]

12. Probably stuffing Sharlett back in his bottle

You can imagine the screaming going on at 'C' street since he lifted the cover on Rachel and Real Time. Somebody must be leaning on HBO to make him invisible again.

[Turborama]

14. Anyone got some answers to the 'fair use' questions that have been raised here...

...and http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6203582">here?

:kick:

[paulsby]

15. regardless of whether said excerpts constitute fair use

(assume arguendo that they do... i'm not conceding thye are, this is just FOR THE SAKE OF ARGUMENT), youtube has the right to be more restrictive than fair use. youtube is a private company. iow, it's still their decision EVEN IF said excerpts meet fair use criteria. that simple

[NashVegas]

16. self-delete