Black People!!!!!

[Tim4319]

I am not excusing what Imus said at all! But, being a black man and a huge fan of Hip Hop, we have to call all of these new age MC's to the carpet. I believe that because much negative talk is said within the black community about black people, that every now-and-then other communities feel they can say something about the black community and feel comfortable enough to get away with it.

I grew up in the beginning stages of Hip Hop in New Jersey. My favorite MC's are KRS-One and Rakim. Currently, I am an eighth grade paraprofessional (teachers assistant)in Georgia to kids these days feel that if MC's days aren't degrading women, cursing, or talking about killing someone, it's not Hip Hop. I'm not saying that Hip Hop is the reason for negative comments toward blacks. These comments have been said about us since the first slave was sold. But, we do need to police ourselves, and make sure we treat our people with respect, especially our women.

[xultar]

1. Agreed. But still I can talk about my mama...but you can't. Know what I'm sayin.

I don't care about the ho part. I mean I care but the nappy headed (even though their hair was tore up from the floor up) was the racist part. If he were talkin about a white woman's team he wouldn't have even mentioned the hair part he just would have called them hos.

That is what the issue is.

Why is it when people talk about a group of black folk they have to say something about the race but when people talk about a group of white folk they don't include race.

[CatWoman]

2. Xultar has the cutest pink hair

:hi:

[xultar]

13. Thank you dahlin. We gotta get together down here in the ATL.

[bryant69]

3. Race is a contentious issue

It is one we desperately need to figure out but the very passion and fury and self deception the issue raises makes it hard to work towards a solution.

I guess these aren't the deepest observations one could make.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com

[Tim4319]

4. I feel you!

I'm from Jersey so I going to to defend Rutgers for one second by saying, they are athletes with weaves. I'm sure they problem had them in since the beginning of the season, and I'm sure they scheduled an appointment to get their hair done as soon as the season was over.

No, I feel you on the "talk about my mama" part! I'm just speaking from the kids I deal with on a daily bases. They are constantly calling each other N----a's, and girls b----'s. But, the moment one of the white kids even fix their mouths to say anything remotely close to any of those words, they would be ready to fight. I try to explain that people have died because of those words, so they should not use them either. But, they could care less!

[femmedem]

5. I think "ho" was as racist as it was sexist.

He would never have called a bunch of young white athletes hos. He wouldn't have seen them that way.

Didn't you know that black women are indiscriminately sexual because that's just part of their animal nature? :sarcasm:

[wavesofeuphoria]

6. I have to agree ...

had it been a team of all white women .. he would have referred to them as .. "lesbos"

[LibraLiz1973]

7. Yeah, I've never heard Don Imus call a white women a Ho.

NOT.

I've heard him call white women hos

[Saturday]

8. Imus has called his own wife a green ho so

your young white athlete analogy is not a good one IMO.

[femmedem]

9. I stand corrected.

I don't listen to Imus, so I wasn't aware of this.

[xultar]

14. yeah... grr....grrr...tee hee hee... no really I don't diss him for ho because of hip hop

to men all women are HOs so in some respek not that it is o.k. or nothin.

[BronxBoy]

17. And what is the obession......

with our women's hair????

We heard the same thing with Cynthia McKinney and Judge Mabelean.

I don't get it.

[sandnsea]

18. blonde bimbos

White women get categorized by hair too. Even on DU. The difference, of course, is the hate and opression behind the words. But it does happen to white women too.

[Grandrose]

10. I agree with you!

I hate the rappers and whoever else use such derogatory words and they should be
admonished and stopped, my problem with Imus is his history of racist remarks!
As you know, two wrongs...do not make it right!
We do not have to buy rappers music, but shoving Imus and his ilk down our
throats on the public airways on a daily basis is beyond the pale!
Notice must be made to the MSM and the record companies, this must stop.:)

[erpowers]

11. Imus Must Go

I understand the argument that black people must come out against black rappers who insult black women. However, black people have done that. Many black leaders have come out against rap music and how it treats black women. Recently, Oprah Winfrey got into a bit of a verbal boxing match with a few rappers who claimed she had forgetten her roots in that she came out against rappers like Ludacris for the way their music depicted black women. Other black leaders have done the same things. In addition, a group of black female college students made a small uproar when they tried to launch a boycott of Ludacris and other rappers who insult black women.

With all that said rap music cannot be used as a cover for what Don Imus said last week and what he has said before. I think it can be argued that the things Imus has said are far worse than what rappers have said. In addition, the fact that Imus refuses to take full responsibility for what he said is another reason he should be fired. I think many people know that Imus compared the Williams sisters to animals, but does anyone know how he did that? Imus actually said Venus and Serena Williams should not be in Sports Illustrated, but should be in National Geographic. That is extremely wrong. Beyond that he has on occasion insulted Maya Angelou, Gwen Ifill, and many other black people. In addition, Imus started insulting black people before this new breed of MC came out. He insulted Gwen Ifill during the Reagan Administration. That was during the early to late 80s. This new breed of MCs seem to have come out on the grand stage in the early 90s. Finally, Imus tries to explain all this by saying his show is a comedy show and that black people do it also. Either he does not get it or he does not want to get it. Either way I think he needs to be fired.

[wellst0nev0ter]

12. Yeah, But How Many Of Those Rappers Have Used "Jiggaboo"

because that was used during the exchange where the now-infamous statment was uttered.

[Laughing Mirror]

16. HOw is it you can call good people jigaboos and hos on network TV

But you get bleeped for fuck and shit? The FCC needs to take a look at what it allows on air.

[shifting_sands]

15. Imus

Imus and a whole raft of others, black and white use Jr. High humor that appeals to other adult men who haven't grown past Jr. High including this administration. I don't listen to Imus, rap or any of the group who find themselves so funny making gender and racists jokes or music, I got over all that when I was in Jr. High. Gwen Ifil was insulted by this guy in 1993 (not the Reagan years) and should have been thrown off then. I don't hear women, at least not wide-scale, with this kind of humor. I don't hear people like Bill Cosby using this kind of humor, Jon Stewart, while edgy doesn't use this. We've lost our sense of value and respect for human beings, any human being. We are becoming a nation of rude and crude people and at the same time massive amounts of self-righteous, so-called Christians telling everyone how to live and spreading hypocrisy more than their concept of the gospel. It still boils down to a lack of respect for each other, sadly I think it's always been there but is breaking out like pus on a boil.

Imus will pass into the annals of forgotten media personalities, so will Limbaugh, Savage, the rappers etc, my hope is there will be no one to replace them.