Every Objective Poll on the Planet Indicates Americans Don’t Trust Republicans on Health Care

[babylonsister]

http://firedoglake.com/2009/07/26/every-objective-poll-on-the-planet-inidicates-americans-dont-trust-republicans-on-health-care/

Every Objective Poll on the Planet Indicates Americans Don’t Trust Republicans on Health Care
By: Blue Texan Sunday July 26, 2009 11:30 am


It seems like everytime I get on the Internets or turn on the teevee, someone's telling me how badly Obama and the Democrats are doing with health care reform and how the concerns of "moderate" Republicans should be heeded, because Americans Want A Bi-Partisan Solution.

While it's true that Obama's numbers have dipped under the weight of the seemingly-endless sausage-making on the Hill, the "concerns" of bought-and-paid-for Blue Dogs like Mike Ross and Big Health propaganda -- no one really cares what Jim DeMint or John Boehner has to say about health care. Republicans are having absolutely zero impact on the debate.

Consider: last week's ABC News poll shows Obama with a staggering 20-point lead on the GOP.



34% is Bush approval territory. And when the question is phrased differently, the irrelevance of the GOP is even more striking.



10%! And before you assume the phrasing of that question favors Obama, here's another:



10% again. So less than half of the GOP's own shrinking base trusts Republicans to fix health care.

So the next time you see Bill O'Reilly or Eric Cantor prattling on and on about What Americans Really Want From Health Care Reform, just remember: no one's listening.

[leftstreet]

1. And if this crap bill passes they won't trust Democrats either n/t

[babylonsister]

2. Maybe crap to you, but not to many people who have nothing now.

I just finished reading this. What part don't you understand?

http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2009/07/building-mandate-by-digby-heres.html

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...As Teddy Kennedy says, the most important thing is to get a public plan by hook or crook and then expand it. But I would love to know why this fellow and others like him believe that, all things being equal (the same presidential campaign, the same economic conditions) single payer could have been sold more effectively than a public plan. If the medical industrial complex pulled out all the stops with this far less radical change --- and managed to successfully erode support for reform already --- is it reasonable to think they would have been stunned into paralysis if Obama had introduced a real government run program?

...

I just don't understand why anyone thinks there was any kind of mandate for such a plan --- or that there has been any kind of grassroots, bottom-up effort to build one over the past 16 years when the Clinton plan crashed on many of the same shoals the current one is heading toward. There was certainly no demand for this during the last presidential campaign, despite the fact that the crisis was well known and plans were discussed constantly.

This reform debate has been going on for 60 years now and every time an attempt to do it fails, liberals purse their lips and say the plan wasn't sweeping enough. We say that no reform is better than reform that continues to allow insurance companies to exist anyway and comfort ourselves with the notion that single payer will be inevitable the next time. And then the politicians suffer from their political failure and get wary of tackling the issue again --- and we go back to complaining among ourselves for another 20 years until another president gets an opening for reform and the same thing happens.

This person actually seems to believe that if the current legislation crashes and burns that all the politicians have to do is brush themselves off and go back to the drawing board and we'll get a single payer plan in 2010. That is a fantasy. It does not work that way and anyone who has observed politics in this country for more than five minutes knows this. The politicians will learn their lesson about failed reform --- again --- and that will be that.

At this point the situation is so grave that taking another 20 years to build that single payer mandate is an untenable position. The economics as well as the moral necessity argue for doing whatever is possible. But, if you nonetheless believe that it's better to have no reform at all then go ahead and agitate for this plan to fail. Maybe this time, in 20 years things will be so horrible that they won't be able to avoid enacting single payer. Heck, maybe we can come back to it in only eight years this time -- if Republicans don't come back to power that is.

[obliviously]

7. You have got that right

if they do what they are planning on they will drive me to the poor house and after what this downturn has done to me already it will be a short trip!

[lefthandedlefty]

3. I don`t trust doctors either for that matter

All most of them care about is the bottom line anyway.

[opihimoimoi]

4. The GOP has LOST CREDIBILITY to a stunning level...hardly anyone outside of their base believes the

BS Crap and projections/fear shit they employ...

John McCane started the shift when he and Palin threw everything at him(Obama)...nothing stuck...all the labels and all the BS couldn't put the Creds together again...

Its All about getting coverage for 48 million citizens who got shit at the moment...

and the stingy GOP is using Wasting Tax Dollars Card....Money for Bombss/bullets but shit for the poor...

How STINGY can these Pubs Get???

[Captain Hilts]

5. There is NO reason to permit Republicans and Blue-Cross Dems to drive this issue or impede it. nt

[old guy]

6. The opposition is being driven by the media.

If the media were presenting the facts and would challenge obvious lies and spin statistics, single payer would become a reality. As it is, we will be fortunate to get any real reform at all.