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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 03:05 AM Original message |
Gates cop asked him to step outside otherwise he couldn't arrest him for disorderly conduct. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 03:14 AM Response to Original message |
1. Exactly. He lured him outside so he could humiliate him. What a hero. |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 03:17 AM Response to Original message |
2. The cop is an asshole for that. He probably gets some joy out of having power over others. |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 06:55 AM Response to Reply #2 |
8. from my experience, good cop or bad, they enjoy having control over others |
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troubledamerican (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 09:06 PM Response to Reply #2 |
60. but JIM CROW-ley is highly respected. |
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LAGC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 03:25 AM Response to Original message |
3. Now that is what you call a "pig" (n/t) |
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Eric68601 (178 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 04:16 AM Response to Original message |
4. I acertained the exact same thing the other day |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 04:19 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. Welcome to DU, Eric. |
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Uben (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 04:56 AM Response to Original message |
6. Remember this.... |
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ejpoeta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 08:00 AM Response to Reply #6 |
22. now see, that is something I would never think of. but then, I have never worried about |
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rocktivity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 05:16 AM Response to Original message |
7. Gates did the opposite of interfere with an investigation |
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RC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 07:19 AM Response to Reply #7 |
10. I'm seeing all the judges and juries around here claiming the cop was within the law |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 07:43 AM Response to Reply #10 |
14. The cop was within the law, but so was the professor. |
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Karenina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 07:56 AM Response to Reply #14 |
19. You might enjoy this piece: |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 08:06 AM Response to Reply #19 |
26. Thank you! That will be an awesome show. |
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glitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 08:51 AM Response to Reply #14 |
33. This reminds me of vampires having to be asked inside. Surreal. nt |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 09:05 AM Response to Reply #33 |
34. Yes, and I almost used that as an example!! |
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Inchworm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 07:45 AM Response to Reply #10 |
15. That's the problem |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 08:14 AM Response to Reply #15 |
28. Yes. Unfortunately, many jurors are very naive about police. |
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JonLP24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 08:25 AM Response to Reply #28 |
30. That can be appealed |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 08:41 AM Response to Reply #30 |
31. Yes it can be appealed. I mentioned the Supreme Court ruling. |
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JonLP24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 09:17 AM Response to Reply #31 |
39. That is why I clearly stated twice |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 09:28 AM Response to Reply #39 |
41. We're in basic agreement. |
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JonLP24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 09:38 AM Response to Reply #41 |
42. Thank god |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 12:35 PM Response to Reply #10 |
54. Within the law & the right thing are often not the same. |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 07:18 AM Response to Original message |
9. Evidently, this police officer acted "stupidly" |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 01:00 AM Response to Reply #9 |
66. But now the President thinks he's an outstanding officer. |
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ejpoeta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 07:30 AM Response to Original message |
11. is there any sort of history regarding neighbors calling about an intruder and the intruder being |
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stray cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 07:38 AM Response to Reply #11 |
12. I think it was a passerby who called police |
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ejpoeta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 07:57 AM Response to Reply #12 |
20. i mean the police response to them.... when the 'breaker in' is the owner. |
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rzemanfl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 08:12 AM Response to Reply #20 |
27. I once climbed through the bedroom window of a friend's house |
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stray cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 07:40 AM Response to Original message |
13. Would it be different if the occupant was a skin head calling a black officer racial slurs |
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geckosfeet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 07:47 AM Response to Reply #13 |
17. He asked for badge number and name. How is that harrassing? |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 09:17 AM Response to Reply #17 |
38. he was uppity set |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 07:52 AM Response to Reply #13 |
18. No. It wouldn't be any different. |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 07:58 AM Response to Reply #13 |
21. As long as the skinhead is within his own home and not threatening violence.. |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 08:03 AM Response to Reply #13 |
25. Happens all the time |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 09:16 AM Response to Reply #13 |
37. No. That would remain protected free speech. |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 11:34 AM Response to Reply #13 |
47. verbal abuse is not a crime |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 10:10 PM Response to Reply #13 |
63. Oh something tells me most of DU would be cheering and |
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geckosfeet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 07:46 AM Response to Original message |
16. Of course. He was playing a cat and mouse game when he should have walked away. |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 08:00 AM Response to Original message |
23. Yes, it's been obvious all along that this cop lost control of his senses |
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nradisic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 08:02 AM Response to Original message |
24. This cop messed with the wrong guy... |
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tj2001 (685 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 08:18 AM Response to Original message |
29. Nah. Crowley didn't like the "acoustics of the kitchen" of the feeble man on a cane |
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marshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 08:45 AM Response to Original message |
32. You'd think Gates would know the law |
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Are_grits_groceries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 09:12 AM Response to Original message |
35. He used an old ploy. |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 09:15 AM Response to Original message |
36. No shit. That is the part of the narrative of events that betrays |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 09:48 AM Response to Reply #36 |
43. absolutely. was clear reading that what the cop did. at that point we knew the man wasnt |
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seaglass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 11:53 AM Response to Reply #36 |
49. It's Gates narrative. You of course have every right to choose |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 12:21 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. Nobody is disputing this part. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 12:52 PM Response to Reply #49 |
56. read the police report. cops version. the dumbshit lays it out clearly and obviously what he was |
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seaglass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 08:36 PM Response to Reply #56 |
59. There are some words missing in your response, I'm not sure if it is some sort of shorthand |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 09:12 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. simply, from crowleys account only, the police report, it shows 3 places where he did wrong |
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seaglass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 10:08 PM Response to Reply #61 |
62. Can you point them out? |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 08:28 AM Response to Reply #62 |
70. he says he knew at that point gates belonged in the home but he called harvard police for |
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seaglass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 09:09 AM Response to Reply #70 |
71. According to the police report - which has not been confirmed as the truth - |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 09:18 AM Response to Reply #71 |
72. it says in police report called harvard police to verify. says i started to give my name and gates |
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seaglass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 10:31 AM Response to Reply #72 |
73. Is there more than one version of the police report? |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 10:38 AM Response to Reply #73 |
74. i am thinking there is.... what i read three days ago |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 01:02 AM Response to Reply #61 |
68. Then why does the President think he's an outstanding officer? |
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Lars39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 09:21 AM Response to Original message |
40. That is the whole reason for calling the campus security, imo.... |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 09:49 AM Response to Reply #40 |
44. also, even though he KNEW gates belonged in that house per his statement, it aLSO |
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Lars39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 10:22 AM Response to Reply #44 |
45. Yep, he kept winding him up until he was sure the others were outside. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 12:25 PM Response to Reply #45 |
51. what bothers me with protect cop at all times, is we can see this. clearly as can be. there is a |
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fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 11:04 AM Response to Original message |
46. He also asked (or demanded) that Gates step outside at the very beginning of the interview |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 11:41 AM Response to Reply #46 |
48. cower and defer |
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WillieW (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 12:31 PM Response to Reply #46 |
53. Saying that the acustics was not sufficient in the house to have a conversation was crap. |
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WillieW (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 12:29 PM Response to Original message |
52. The police frequently abuse the law by speeding not being in pursuit of anyone. |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 01:01 AM Response to Reply #52 |
67. Is that the only reason for an officer to speed? |
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WillieW (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 11:20 AM Response to Reply #67 |
75. Give me another one. One cop in the car on a highway w/o sirens. |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 01:02 PM Response to Reply #75 |
77. Responding to a report of a crime. |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 12:46 PM Response to Original message |
55. A policeman did the same to me but when I went outside, |
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WillieW (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 01:24 PM Response to Reply #55 |
57. Caucasian Male? |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 02:24 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. Yes. |
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followthemoney (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 12:55 AM Response to Original message |
64. This is what the cops must learn how to do... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 12:59 AM Response to Reply #64 |
65. No kidding. This guy was the TEACHER. |
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Life Long Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 01:03 AM Response to Original message |
69. But still he wouldn't have been able to do this unless he was in the house. |
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WillieW (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 11:21 AM Response to Reply #69 |
76. Correct! |
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Life Long Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 02:58 PM Response to Reply #76 |
79. That's going by the law. |
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Gothmog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 02:22 PM Response to Original message |
78. The Arrest was illegal anyway |
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