Ohio legislator’s bill dictates that men should have final say on abortion.

[babylonsister]

Criminy, anyone feel like our country is regressing? This is whacked.

http://thinkprogress.org/2009/07/22/ohio-bill-men-final-say-abortion/

Ohio legislator’s bill dictates that men should have final say on abortion.


State Rep. John Adams (R-OH) has re-introduced radical legislation that would prevent a woman from having an abortion until she gets written consent from the biological father. As proposed, the bill triggers criminal penalties against women for “providing a false biological father.” Adams says the “first-degree misdemeanor” would be punishable with up to “six months” in jail and a “$1,000 fine.” Labeled by Adams as a “father’s right bill,” the lawmaker would give men the final say on abortion in the state of Ohio:

In the case where the father isn’t known, House Bill 252 would compel the woman to provide a list of names of people who may be the father in an effort to determine paternity. The bill also would make it a crime for women to lie about who the father is, and make it illegal for doctors to perform abortions without the father’s consent.

The bill would force a woman to have a child if the father does not agree to an abortion.

“That child should be born, not killed,” Adams said.

Adams first introduced the legislation in 2007. Already, this bill has at least 15 co-sponsors. Pro-Choice Ohio issued a statement saying Adams’ bill “is a clear attack on a woman’s freedom and privacy.” AJ at Feminists For Choice says the bill is “another mechanism for demonizing and isolating women who have sex.” (H/T: Pam’s House Blend.)

[MercutioATC]

1. I understand the intent, but it's a silly law.

Whichever side of the fence you stand on, this law is completely unenforceable.

To circumvent it, a woman who wants an abortion simply has to say "I don't know who the father is".

(ON EDIT)

After reading the full text of the bill, that's not even an option. This bill is REALLY ridiculous:

http://www.legislature.state.oh.us/bills.cfm?ID=128_HB_252

...and if this is what he considers good legislation (solely based on its legal merit...not whether it's "right" or not), Rep. Adams should not only resign...but should make sure his genetic line doesn't continue.

[DebbieCDC]

2. The utter stupidity of the state I was born in never ceases to amaze me

:banghead:

[LisaM]

3. So what about rape?

What kind of a knuckle dragging idiot.......

[mtnester]

6. The kind of knuckle dragger that thinks women don't realy get raped

you know, those neaderthals

[MercutioATC]

7. Actually, that's excluded (full text of the bill here:)

http://www.legislature.state.oh.us/bills.cfm?ID=128_HB_252

[mtnester]

9. I am frankly stunned

seriously, these type of Repubs usually want women to bear a child of rape too

[MercutioATC]

10. I'm just judging the legal merit, and this bill is still trash.

Example: A woman has sex with a man without knowing how to later contact him.

Under this bill, she MUST notify him even if she doesn't know who he is.


It's just the product of an incredibly simple mind. Rep. Adams shouldn't be allowed anywhere near the statehouse...not so much because he's wrong as because he's stupid.

[mtnester]

15. Agreed

[mtnester]

4. I didn't know his name

will become a standard answer - I mean these asshats already think women are whores to begin with, this ought to satisfy everyone

I hate these idiots. Hopefully, those other idiots that live in more centrist districts will quash this.

[wtbymark]

5. very unconstitutional imo

[TexasObserver]

8. Unconstitutional. A state can't make women get a permission slip to get an abortion.

The decision is entirely the woman's.

[donco6]

11. Gosh Hester, Rev. Dimmesdale won't sign off on you!

Can't imagine why.

[MichiganVote]

12. Why stop there? Hell let's just stone women to death for having sex in the first place.

:sarcasm:

[earth mom]

13. Women are just second class citizens to you-ain't that so, you bastards?

:grr:

[fascisthunter]

14. in other words... women's bodies are controlled by men.. what man...

would want to control anybody? Those who do, I say get control over your insanity.

[damntexdem]

16. Does it also require the men to be the ones to give birth?

Or better, to live through nine months of pregnancy?

[mascarax]

17. WTH - and why is this idiot elected to anything?

"The bill would force a woman to have a child if the father does not agree to an abortion."

OK, John. Are you picking the babies up at the hospital, or should they be dropped off at your house? You'll be busy, going through all those "Potential Father Lists" and paternity tests. Oh well, guess you'll find the time.

Sheesh. Another Complete Whack Job (him, Michele Bachman, Mean Jean Schmidt...)-- just too many. Appalling.

[Mythsaje]

18. Never fly...

No way, no how...

[AwakeAtLast]

19. The Taliban would be on this guy's side

:crazy: