"I want to see his birth certificate" "He's not a citizen"

[Stinky The Clown]

Those sayings, and the litany of others that are similar, are nothing short of racist.

I haven't posted on this, and don't plan to again.

I hate racists.

[spanone]

1. i've seen that insane lady they showed on hardball several times....screaming about this horeshit

these people are really demented, it's rather frightening.

[Stinky The Clown]

2. She was the inspiration for this thread

Yes, they're demented

Yes, they're frightening

That crazy "he's an Arab' woman at the McCain rally. The loons that Palin frothed up. These people are truly dangerous.

[Tangerine LaBamba]

4. Remember the SNL pimp they did of that one?

It was wonderful...................

[Rhiannon12866]

18. That was what immediately came to mind when I saw this latest clip...

There sure are a lot of brain-dead folks out there... x(

[dflprincess]

11. Actually, she made me somewhat concerned that my citizenship has been revoked

my original birth certificate - the one my oh-so-organized mother has had ever since she left the hosptial with me - looks a lot like the way she described hers. All sorts of information, time of birth, hospital, what # pregnancy I was, doctor's signature father's & mother's occupation and an official seal Though, she said hers was issued by the United States, mine was issued by the state of Minnesota (county of Hennepin).

A couple years ago when I applied for a passport I decided to get a new copy of the certificate rather than send my precious heirloom off to the State Department. (Besides, I could get it at the same time & place I applied for the passport). The new, 2007 version of my birth certificate looks a lot like the one they show as Obama's - not nearly as much information as the original though it still has a seal on it. Do you suppose I am no longer a legal U.S. resident?????
:rofl:

[Critters2]

12. What part of Kenya were you born in again? nt

[dflprincess]

20. I was trying to be funny

she was partially basing her "claim" on the difference between what's on her birth certificate and what's on Obama's and that all that extra information on her certificate "proves" she's a citizen.

It sounds like the orignal copy of mine looks like her certificate, but my recently issued one looks a lot like Obama's. So, if I follow her logic that less information on a birth certificate puts one's citizenship in doubt, then I'm in trouble though the State Department did issue me a passport even with that "faulty" certificate I sent them.

[jberryhill]

30. Actually....

If the document you describe is what your mother had since "she left the hospital", that document is not a birth certificate anyway.

Birth certificates are not issued by hospitals. They are issued by state offices. The form you get from the hospital is pretty much a souvenir with no legal significance at all.

[Brother Buzz]

38. In California, birth certificates are issued by counties

In fact County Recorder's Offices across the nation have received many checks from me in my quest for family documentation of birth and death certificates.

[Critters2]

51. In Iowa, the county issues them up to a point,

and then, after some amount of time, they go to the state. I had to get a birth certificate in order to get my Illinois driver's license. I contact my home county, and the county recorder told me I had to get it from some office in Des Moines. So, I did. It cost me $15. And it looks pretty much like the one Obama has made public. Guess the birthers would doubt my citizenship, too.

[dflprincess]

52. It has the Hennepin County/State of Minnesota seal on it

I just assumed she took it home with me. It was a long time ago.

[Pool Hall Ace]

57. I believe critters2 was trying to be funny, too.

In fact, I found the post funny! :D

Oh well . . . (ahem) Seriously, I would have just an eensy-beensy bit more respect for these people if they would just come out and say, "I'M RACIST AND I CAN'T STAND THE FACT THAT THERE IS A BLACK MAN IN THE WHITE HOUSE!!!!!!OMG!!ELEVENTY!

At least then, they would be honest.

The birth certificate authenticity has been proven to death.

[Tangerine LaBamba]

22. No, you're fine -

the same thing happened to me - and now, for some reason, I have three copies of my birth certificate, plus my original.

The details - weight, mother's maiden name, stuff like that - are all on file with the issuing state, and can be retrieved in an instant, so there's no need to duplicate it and have more personal information readily available out there.

It's really for our protection, and I like it.

You're safe - not to worry...................

[dflprincess]

24. Again - I was trying to be funny.

I was not really worried. After all, the new one is what was sent to and accepted by the State Department for my passport.

That birther nut was trying to imply that something was wrong with Obama's certificate because it didn't show as much detail as hers.

[Tangerine LaBamba]

25. Is that what she was doing?

After she bleated about getting her birth certificate from "The United States Of America," I pretty much stopped listening to what she was saying.

They're not just nuts - they're also stupid. A deadly combination.

I wonder how long this is going to last........................

[dflprincess]

27. Oh yeah, she ranted about all the information that was on it

and how that somehow proved that Obama's certificate is a fake.

My other poor attempt at humor was her shrieking about her certificate being from the "United States of America"; mine comes from a mere state (actually a lowly county in a mere state) as do most birth certificates.

She was also yammering about her dad fighting in WWII and being part of the "greatest generation". How that proves she's a citizen, I'm not sure. It really was quite entertaining in a twisted sort of way and I thought her performance alone was enough to totally discredit these birther nut jobs.

[Tangerine LaBamba]

31. It seems cyclical, doesn't it?

There was that whackjob lady at the McPOW rally, when she tried to say that Obama was a Muslim, and McPOW took the mike from here and said no, Obama was "a good family man" - because, you know, Muslims are NEVER "good family men."

Then SNL did a skit about her, and it was hilarious.

Too bad SNL is on hiatus for the summer - they could do something wonderful with this latest headcase. I sat up when she shangaied the audience - and you know they all shared her beliefs - into standing for the Pledge of Allegiance.

Boy, if THAT wasn't proof of citizenship, I don't know what is. :sarcasm:

I'm sick of these people. I hate their their votes count the same as ours....................

[Trekologer]

43. I have various "generations" of my birth certificate

Since whenever I needed a copy I was unable to find the one I already had.

When I needed the copy for my Drivers License when I turned 16, I obtained a copy that the records office person typed the information onto with a typewriter and stamped with the seal.

When I needed the copy a couple years later, I obtained a copy that had a scan of what might have been the original certificate printed onto security paper (microprinting and watermarks in it).

The latest one I have has all of the information of the previous ones printed by computer on security paper that looks a lot like President Obama's certificate.

Three certificates, all issued by the same office, appear completely different. I guess that means I'm not Amurikan?

[kestrel91316]

55. Birth records are issued by STATES and never the federal government:

http://www.cyndislist.com/births.htm#States

~~~~~~~

http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/vital-records/index.html

"About Vital Records

Vital records (birth, death, marriage, and divorce certificates) for events that occurred in Hawaii are received and preserved by the Office of Health Status Monitoring, a unit of the Department of Health. In Hawaii, access to vital records is restricted by statute (HRS §338-18).

Certified copies of these records may be issued to authorized individuals and used for such diverse purposes as school entry, passports, Social Security participation, driver’s licenses, employment, sports participation, survivor’s benefits, proof of property rights, and other needs."

~~~~~~~~

[slampoet]

33. Tell me about it. Mine was issued by Wayne County weeks after i was born.

Uh that's Wayne County Michigan....

.....not Wayne County the transsexual singer.

[csziggy]

35. I've got three versions of my birth certificate which makes for an interesting comparison

The first is a cool certificate from the hospital, much like the crazy lady described and signed by the doctor and the hospital administrator. But the gold seal was never embossed so I don't have that part. And hers didn't have the neat baby footprints on the back with the thumbprints of my mother, at least she didn't mention those in her diatribe. Nyah, nyah, nyah, crazy lady!

Oddly enough THAT one is not a legal birth certificate according to the State of Florida. Along with that one, my parents were given a 'receipt' acknowledging that my birth had been registered with the state and including the certificate number as listed by the state.

Then there is a 'long form' birth certificate that my parents got for some reason in 1963. It is a negative copy probably from a microfiche and includes a good amount of info.

The most recent one I got last week looks to be on the same form as Obama's and does not include as much information on the old one. But it is just as legal as the others and probably more legal than the one from the hospital. Does that invalidate my earlier birth certificates?

[XemaSab]

46. I was delivered by this man in Oakland, California

I should just pack my bags for Africa right now.

[Tangerine LaBamba]

3. They can't let go -

it's the last delusion they have that they can cling to. To let that go would be to have to admit that a vast number of Americans chose a black man to be our President, and they, the racists who were so coddled during the previous administration, cannot believe that they're suddenly so wrong, so outdated, so stupid, and so utterly without meaning or significance.

They have to keep screaming about it.

Meanwhile, along with our President Obama, we'll just keep going forward, doing the best we can.

Laugh at them, Stinky.

But you did good to post this.

Have a safe trip.........................................

[Raschel]

14. I do take comfort knowing that the election of a Black man is pushing them over the edge.

They can't believe it happened and there's nothing that they can do about it.

They're so afraid of Black people, of being "taken over" by minorities. Their fear(projection) is driving them totally bonkers. LOL

[DJ13]

5. "He's Black, we all know those only come from Africa!"

Thats what I get out of the rants from those idiots.

[Tangerine LaBamba]

6. And that fits very nicely with

"He's NOT a citizen, so he can't be President," which - they think - disguises their racism.

They are, as usual, wrong. About everything......................................

[parasim]

7. Whenever I see these loons on tv...

I think of the old lady at the McCain rally (and lampooned on SNL) that goes, "he... he... he's an Arab!".

Puts them all in perspective for me.

They're all batshit crazy nutballs, as well as racist, as you've already pointed out..


on edit: I now see that I didn't read your other post where you pointed out the crazy lady at the McCain thing before I posted...

[bluestateguy]

8. Move over Harriet Christian

You've been replaced.

[Stinky The Clown]

9. A member of a very tiny minority, she is right tere with the right wing nuts.

[jberryhill]

23. Replaced!? For What?!

For an inadequate Russian Woman!

[Sheltiemama]

37. How long until FOX tracks her down and interviews her?

Any bets?

[hobbit709]

10. Every time I hear that from some moran

I demand that they produce their REAL birth certificate. Haven't had one yet and they mumble and shut up as they walk away.

[Ohio Joe]

13. Agreed. 100% racist crazy loons

They know they can't come out and say what they really want so they have latched onto this crazy horse shit.

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[Tangerine LaBamba]

21. You handled that one nicely -

it's always tiresome when civilians decide to practice law without a license.

Well done, CPD.................

[Ohio Joe]

36. At the risk of calling out another DU'er... Yes, exactly. - nt

[greenbriar]

39. that idiot still posts here

dude is crazy (jody) his positions are batshit insane

[SeattleGirl]

16. It's absolutely true.

The ONLY reason they are screaming about the birth certificate is because he's not lily white.

Bastards make me sick! :puke:

[proteus_lives]

17. Jeesh, the election's over. Move on!

It's pathetic how they keep harping on this non-issue.

[Sparkly]

19. Look at it this way -- it keeps them busy.

When Sparkly Jr. was a toddler, the one thing that would keep her occupied for up to 15 minutes was one of her shoes and puzzling out the shoelaces. It made her crazy with frustration sometimes, but it was a puzzle she got so intent on solving, she was out of mischief for a while.

Or, when we want to get the German shepherd away from out dinner plates on the deck, we throw a stick. Off she goes.

So, these idiots are making themselves crazy over this. At least it keeps them busy, and keeps them away from any actual, for-real issues. And it puts their representatives on the spot, showing them up for the asshats they are.

It keeps some of them from freaking out and lying about policy issues. Healthcare? International negotiations? Evolution? Hey!! Hillary Clinton killed Vince Foster and the moon landing was a hoax and President Obama is a Muslim who isn't a US citizen and -- this just in -- the Democrats in Congress are all robots planted here by a secret society of Socialists to destroy our nation!! FETCH!!!!

... Now, where were we?...

[troubledamerican]

26. Just wait. It will get crazier. Soldiers will begin to mutiny.

[jberryhill]

28. Somewhere... In A Compound In Idaho......

[givemebackmycountry]

32. That ain't a REAL birther...

I see the BC, but wheres the flag?

Huuuummmmmm?

"DO YOU HAVE A FLAG"?

[Blue_Tires]

42. lol at that!

you win!

[tekisui]

54. I doubt it.

[Skittles]

29. I would tend to agree

it's much easier to complain about a birth certificate than it is to publicly state one simply cannot accept an African-American president

[Hekate]

34. After I got over my nausea I wanted to say to these nutballs:He's black, he's President, get over it

Just confront them on the racism they keep denying. But gods, are they scary.

Hekate

[SleeplessInAlabama]

40. The newspaper birth listing was forged, too

[Ganja Ninja]

47. And yet we still don't have even one document of any kind from

these birthers that proves any of their claims are even remotely true. Nothing, nada, zip! No proof whatsoever.

[kestrel91316]

56. Right. Welcome to DU. Enjoy your stay. You want pepperoni with that?

[Regret My New Name]

41. I don't get their argument at all and whyt his is even an issue.

I know they say that the president isn't a citizen and isn't eligible, but what are they basing this on? I would assume they have to at least think they have some sort o basis for their argument, right? I would also assume that such documents to prove the president is in a fact a citizen do exist and were presented, or we wouldn't be calling him the president, right? So what exactly more do they claim they want, and why hasn't it just been put out there just so they stfu? Or has it, and they are just ignoring it?

[jberryhill]

49. Any "proof" is forged

There are people who say the live video of the second 9/11 plane impact was "faked", and that there are no planes.

More evidence is simply evidence of a wider conspiracy.

[Regret My New Name]

50. Yeah... I looked into it a bit more after I posted that...

There is plenty that was already put out there. There's no convincing them, because they don't want to be...

[Raine]

44. Racist Assholes! nt

[tavalon]

45. I like my husband's take on it

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=6120506&mesg_id=6120506

[ejpoeta]

48. the thing is, he's shown his birht certificate. it doesn't matter.... they want to believe it.

now, if anyone questioned john mccain's citizenship.... considering he was born in panama.... it is racist, because if you said anything about him being born in panama, the response would be that his parents were americans. well, obama's mother was american. so then so is obama, no matter where is was born, which was in hawaii... last time i checked hawaii was a state as of the date of obama's birth.

[trotsky]

53. Seriously, I'm encouraged by the birthers.

Watergate was a manufactured scandal, of course, but it did have some elements to it that were a little questionable. It was mainstream enough that Republican politicians could ride it, and it fed all the fishing expeditions and eventually Monica to bring down a popular president.

If the birther movement is Obama's Whitewater, well, all I can do is laugh. It's just plain silly and makes them look like the vile angry racist loonies they are.

[endarkenment]

58. Birfer of a racist notion

A movie classic by D W Coupe DeVille.

Starring Chuck Norris and "Joe" da Plummer.