*** Official Thursday Sotomayor confirmation hearing thread 2 ***

[MiniMe]

This may be a quick thread. Witnesses are due next. We will continue until the site goes down for maintenance.

Oh, and Sessions is an ass.

cspan link: http://www.cspan.org/Watch/C-SPAN3_rm.aspx

link to thread 1: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=6079926&mesg_id=6079926

They are in a break now, they will return after a short break. Looks like Whitehouse will chair for this portion.

[Hepburn]

1. K N R...n/t

[MiniMe]

2. Thanks Hepburn

:hi:

[Hepburn]

3. No problemo....

....and I am gonna miss this board and the remarks on the continuing hearing.

I have to leave in about 5 minutes...and will be back later.

I wish there was some way to watch the afternoon session...pout...

[MiniMe]

4. It will be online later on cspan, and cspan will replay it tonight.

[Hepburn]

6. Thanks....

...I will try and catch it later.

Too bad that the MSM does not broadcast important events like this.

[Hepburn]

5. ABA panel up...Whitehouse introducing them. eom

[Spazito]

7. I am very impressed with Whitehouse and to see him chairing this is...

wonderful, imo!

Thanks again, MiniMe, for doing these threads, I very much appreciate it!

[MiniMe]

8. ABA has judged her well qualified

That is the highest qualification they have.

[cal04]

9. thank you for the threads MiniMe

:hi:

[MiniMe]

10. There are hardly any Senators there right now to hear the testimony

I see Whitehouse and Sessions, I think I see Grassley on the repub side. Maybe they will start streaming in a bit later.

[inna]

11. what do you mean, "the site goes down for maintenance"?

was there some sort of an announcement??

i certainly didn't get the memo.

[MiniMe]

13. Yes, they announced it yesterday

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=announcement&id=305

[MiniMe]

12. Whitehouse is doing the questioning for the ABA

He was a former prosecutor, so I'm sure he is familiar with the reports.

[Spazito]

14. Kick and Yay, DU is back!

:kick:

[cal04]

15. Bloomy backing her and saying

he's been in all three parties so they should all support her
he doesn't agree with her 100% of the time
caution about the PR legal fund,well respected in NYC eventhough he doesn't agree with them all the time

[Graybeard]

16. Now Robert Morgenthau NY District Attorney

A legend at age 90 still running the NY DA office. He has a 90 percent conviction rate.

[alsame]

17. Ricci up now.

[Graybeard]

18. Frank Ricci making statement now.

[BlooInBloo]

19. Wonderful how msnbc doesn't show any of the witnesses in favor of Sotomayor...

but the poor, poor, victimized firefighters are on now.

[alsame]

20. CNN and Faux did the same thing. Liberal media, LOL. nt

[southernleftylady]

21. Ricci is so not a public speaker...

pause... look up and look at all of the sen. read.... pause.... look up.... look at all of the Sen.
would it be bad to say that i sorta feel sorry for him? ;)

[SemiCharmedQuark]

22. I'm sure Buchanan will say he did brilliantly later tonight on MSNBC.

Although I heard Rachel say she's having him on and I hope she takes him down.

[msanthrope]

23. He's a dyslexic. I think he needed to use his finger to follow along. n/t

[southernleftylady]

29. I have a question about being dyslexic...

I knew he was dyslexic and thats why I didn't say anything about him using his finger to read along.. but does being dyslexic have anything to do with memorizing a speech. I am not aware of anyone that I know who is dyslexic so I am not sure on how it effects their learning besides reading.. tia for any info :)

[Hepburn]

55. My son is dyslexic....

....numbers? Wow!!!! Letters and words? Ummmm, no.

But...he can memorize ANYTHING. I am not saying this applies to all with this learning disability, tho.

[Graybeard]

24. I have read that Ricci is dyslexic.

[SeattleGirl]

25. Linda Chavez -- Blech!

Painting Sotomayor as the worst person on the face of the earth.

"Whaaaaaa! She's against white people!" seems to be the meme she's spouting.

[Spazito]

26. How lovely, a fomer Bush official, conservative author and Fox...

radio talk show host testifying on equality and fairness without bias being paramount.

It is beyond cartoonish, imo.

[cal04]

27. fox news analyst

:puke:
Linda Chavez is an American conservative author, commentator, and radio talk show host. She is also a Fox News analyst, Chairman of the Center for Equal Opportunity, has a syndicated column that appears in newspapers nationwide each week, and sits on the Board of Directors of two Fortune 1000 companies: Pilgrims Pride and ABM Industries Inc. Chavez was the highest-ranking woman in President Ronald Reagan's White House, and was the first Latina ever nominated to the United States Cabinet.

[Graybeard]

28. Puke alert: Linda Chavez up now. Ugh.

[cal04]

30. comment from dkos on her

Linda Chavez Is Still Seeking Revenge Ever Since
she was dumped as a potential cabinet member in the Reagan Administration after she was found to hire slave labor and then not pay taxes.

She is a disgrace to America.

[msanthrope]

31. She also supported Miguel Estrada. I forgot about the slavery

thing....

[SeattleGirl]

32. Melissa Harris Lacewell just said,

"Don't worry Linda FOXNews Chavez, no one mistook you for a wise Latina." Touche!

[southernleftylady]

33. Why does this lady have any say over the Bar statement??? nt

[cal04]

34. go Durbin

kick her ass
to Morganthau "were you looking for a wise latino woman"
he urged Sotomayor to join the fund
don't forget where you came from

[Graybeard]

35. Durbin shut her up good! Morgy is great too.

Morgenthau was founding member of the Puerto Rican Legal Defense Fund and urged SS to join. Nice touch Morgy.

[cal04]

36. Durbin is great. I've never seen Morgenthau and I'm glad he gave

all that information

comment from David Corn

Good point from Durbin at #sotomayor hring. When white guys nominated to the court no one asked if they'd do to much for white guys.

[SeattleGirl]

37. Graham is so full of shit!

[cal04]

38. We all know Graham that you're the party of NO

bigotry, and it's our way or no way

[cal04]

39. Klobuchar is up

to Chavez: how she got into princeton
which of course she didn't say

[Graybeard]

40. Why give Chavez another chance to spew her lies?

I think that was a mistake on Klobuchar's part. Leave her to the pukes to call on.

[cal04]

41. here comes specter with his I agree BUT

any reason to think she acted in anything other than good faith

[Graybeard]

42. Obvious that both firefighters wer coached not to answer that.

The non-answer was too pat.

[cal04]

43. Chavez made sure she got her puke

answer in

[Graybeard]

44. Taking a break now.

Another panel of witnesses will follow.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

45. Did the Repukes try to elicit empathy for the fire fighters?

[Graybeard]

46. Fraternal Order of Police endorses SS.

The president of the org speaking now.

[Graybeard]

47. David Cone former Met & Yankee up now.

Discussing the MLB case.

[SeattleGirl]

48. Anybody else want to gobsmack the fundy anti-abortion woman?

She's essentially saying that if Sotomayor is confirmed, she'll make all pregnant women have abortions, and will prevent minors from talking to their parents abou it, if they are pregnant. (My interpretation of her idiotic prattling.)

[cal04]

51. as a personal issue to me I wish she would just shut up

because my view as many others is NOT her view

[Spazito]

49. Well, after listening for 4 days, I have come to this conclusion...

The key 'concerns' of the republicans are:

First and foremost, the oppression of the white male

followed by:

guns
gays
the right to dictate what woman may or may not do with their own bodies aka anti-choice

In summation, the repubs and their sycophantic followers have FAILED miserably and that is a GOOD, a VERY GOOD thing, imo.

[Graybeard]

50. Former NRA prez up now.

SS has either lack of understanding of 2nd amendment or open hostility.

[SeattleGirl]

52. I vote for open hostility.

These idiots are always screaming about how the dems (or their appointees) are going to take everyone's guns away. Not even close to true, but they keep at it anyway.

[Graybeard]

53. Louis Freeh former FBI Chief endorses SS.

Do we want it? OK...we'll take it.

[EFerrari]

56. Maybe he's hoping she'll keep him out of jail. n/t

[Graybeard]

54. Another break. Two more panels to go.

[Hepburn]

57. Who was the Latina who just finished speaking?

CSPAN went out on my and I missed a lot of her.

TIA...:hi:

[Graybeard]

58. Rep. Nydia Velasquez D-NY

Gave earnest endorsement to SS whom she knew and worked with in NY for 20 yrs.

[Hepburn]

59. Gracias, Senor...

...I just caught the end of her statement...and was very impressed with how sincere she appeared.

:hi:

[Graybeard]

60. High school buddy who is now a law professor.

Theodore Shaw was classmate of SS. Cardinal Spellman High can be very, very proud.

[Hepburn]

61. I liked him....short, sweet, personal and to the point. eom

[Hepburn]

62. OMFG....

....:wow:

The story this witness is telling about his brother's murder!!!! :cry:

Edit for typo

[EFerrari]

63. He's opposing her, right?

[Hepburn]

64. I have no clue....

...I was just amazed by the story of his borther's death!

[EFerrari]

65. Yes, he is. She's soft on crime -- too much sympathy. n/t

[Hepburn]

67. Hey, when I practiced, I did a fair amount of criminal defense work....

...I have NEVER seen any DA with any sympathy for a defendant.

This guy is a total crock of shit.

[EFerrari]

70. When I translated in all the courts here, there were a lot of mixed responses

but I never did see a Federal prosecutor or a DA that cried over a violent criminal, no.

[Hepburn]

66. Up-date....

...the idiot is downing a former NYC prosecutor who won most of her cases.

Empathy for criminals??? What a crock!

[EFerrari]

68. What he's showing is that she upholds the law regardless.

What an idiot.

[Hepburn]

69. Yep....

...good point.

She was after all a prosecutor. This is a total asshat....and I am wondering who was dumb enough to invite this wack job to speak.

:eyes:

[EFerrari]

71. Sottomayor has never said there is no objective view. n/t

[Hepburn]

72. WTF????

Ummmmmm...where is Mr. Harvard Law Review going with this spew???

:shrug:

[cal04]

73. that's what I'd sure like to know

OMG

[Hepburn]

76. Talk about living in one's own little isolated world!

YIKES!!!!! :wow:

[EFerrari]

77. He sounded to me like we all did as last year grads

when our families started worrying about us.

lol

[EFerrari]

74. Maybe he thinks he's at the UN.

:rofl:

[Graybeard]

75. Northwestern Law prof going on and on and on.

15 minutes of fame doesn't mean you actually talk for 15 minutes.:banghead:

[Hepburn]

78. The new one is not too impressive either....

...WTF about all the theories of legal interpretation???

:eyes:

Ummmmmm....the original US Const is in a sealed titanium case...yada, yada. What the fuck does that have to do with this hearing???

:shrug:

[Graybeard]

80. Xenophobia forever!

We don't need no stinkin' foreign shit.

[EFerrari]

81. Solipsistic hand wringing fundamentalist.

Someone give this man his Freedom Fries and put us out of our misery.

:rofl:

[Hepburn]

83. Someone give him one of THESE and put US out of his misery, OK?

[EFerrari]

84. Someone must have because it's gone!

[Hepburn]

87. Ooooooops, bad link ~~ fixed! eom

[Hepburn]

79. Asshat...hear me and hear me well, OK? Your question about studying other documents...

...do you even have CLUE ONE about the underpinings of American Jurisprudence???

I would opine NOT!!!!! You teach law???? OMFG....!!!! :wow:

[EFerrari]

82. And he didn't know how she ruled, to boot. lol

[Hepburn]

85. What a worthless POS...IMO. eom

[Graybeard]

86. People who don't know her and don't let facts get in the way.

Her buddy Shaw with a nice put down of some of the other witnesses.

[EFerrari]

88. Kyl is now talking up the furrin law angle. She's going to betray us to the French, apparently.

lol

[Hepburn]

89. This is just the DUMBEST attack evah! eom

[EFerrari]

90. Makes Republican sense. Did you know that she's Hispanic?

[Hepburn]

91. Oh, well....not white and male?

Obviously she does not belong on the SCOTUS!

:eyes:

[EFerrari]

92. She may be fixing to sell us out to Mexico -- furriners!

You know how these sneaky people are.

And then, they tie that back to violent crime. That's the whole Republican playbook.

[Hepburn]

93. Ooooooooh, and MANDATED abortions on ANY pregnant female...

...and NO promotions for ANY white male.

Right?

:sarcasm:

[Hepburn]

94. Jeffrey BEAUREGARD Sessions now up. eom

[Graybeard]

96. Mike Malloy does a great riff on him.

The past few nights Malloy has been hilarious doing his Sessions impression.

[Hepburn]

98. How could anyone do an impression of Sessions?

He is already, IMO, a total caricature!

:evilgrin:

[cal04]

95. what's with all the international law

they couldn't win on the other bogus points so they're making up some other crap

[Hepburn]

97. IMO, cuz they are NOT winning on any of their bullshit, bogus points.

They want to convey a message that she is waaaaaaaaay toooooooooo freindly to them furners.

After all, she IS a Puerto Rican, yes?

:eyes:

[cal04]

99. that seems to fit them well

doesn't it, making up crap

[Hepburn]

101. Exactly....

...how sad that they are defaming someone like this ~~ and for now reason. She is an excellent judge.

[Graybeard]

102. And the firefighters will get all of the coverage.

The pro SS witnesses? Nada.

[Hepburn]

103. Yep....

...but that is because of the LIBRUL media....:eyes:

[Graybeard]

100. Break now. Final panel next.

[Hepburn]

104. Sen Kaufman chairing the hearing...

...Pres of NYC Bar Assoc is first witness ~~ Patricia Hynes.

They conducted an eval of Judge SS.

[Hepburn]

105. Finding of the Bar Committe:

"Highly Qualified"

Witness went through all of the steps they took to reach this conclusion before announcing the rec.

They are saying really good stuff about her.

[Graybeard]

106. NYC Bar Assoc. highest rating.

Three tier ratings SS gets highest.

[Hepburn]

107. Dean of Temple Law School ~~ next witness

She finds SS "Highly Qualified."

[Hepburn]

108. Her Congressman is the next witness:

Jose Serrano....speaking very favorably re: Judge SS.

[Graybeard]

109. Be very, very nice to Chairman of the Appropriations Committee.

LOL Funny back and forth between Kaufmann and Rep. Serrano who was late.

[Hepburn]

110. Yeah, that was good! eom

[Hepburn]

111. David Rivkin....

...partner in NY lawfirm ~~ Baker Hostetler.

Worst tie I have EVAH seen....:puke:

[Hepburn]

112. Hint....he served as "special assistant to....

...former VP Dan Quayle!"

:rofl:

[cal04]

113. special assistant to mr potatoe

:hide:

[Hepburn]

116. LMBO....

....:rofl: Good one!

[Graybeard]

114. Where do the Repukes dig up these nut-cases?

Harangue about SCOTUS is a danger to our national security? Rulings against the Bush/Cheney torture and detention policies.

[Hepburn]

117. This alleged 2nd Amendment specialist....

...is another wack job.

He testified AGAINST Holder on the AG appointment and he appears on the Lou Dobbs program.

'nuff said.

[cal04]

120. thanks for info on that numbnut

the pukes must go through the phone book to find these people

[Hepburn]

121. Yellow pages....

...under "Wack Job." Gets them a witness every time...or so I am told!

:evilgrin:

[cal04]

124. LOL

so that's where they found O'Reilly and Limbaugh

[Hepburn]

125. I hear they were under the heading of....

...terminal stupidity. :evilgrin:

[Hepburn]

115. WTF is this witness talking about?

:shrug:

Stephen Halbrook.

[Graybeard]

118. He cleared the room. Look at the empty seats behind him.

And there are only two Senators left that I can see.

[Hepburn]

119. Soooooooo....BO on top of total idiocy??

:evilgrin:

[Graybeard]

122. Was that Halbrook or Halitosis?

[Hepburn]

123. LOL! eom

[cal04]

126. of course session butt goes to Rivkin

:puke:

[Hepburn]

128. Does the term "Nazi" come to mind when looking at this bullshit artist?

:puke:

And that tie???? OMG ~~ trash it!

[cal04]

131. that tie fits him

Ugly inside and the tie outside

[Graybeard]

129. This Rivkin belongs in a rubber-room.

Scary that he is walking around loose.:scared:

[Hepburn]

130. Crazy eyes....

...maybe that is why he picked out that tie? :shrug:

[Hepburn]

127. J. BEAUREGARD Asshat Sessions....

...now pontificating...

Oooooooooh, Judge SS ruled that certain portions of the Patriot Act were unCost.

Well, that does it....:eyes:

Edit to correct grammar.

[cal04]

132. Whitehouse, thank goodness

please no more pukes

[Hepburn]

133. Whitehouse taking on...

...the alleged 2nd Amendment specialist.

:popcorn:

Go for it Sen WH!

[cal04]

135. good points Whitehouse

lobbying
Heller 2 whatever the case would be named

:applause:

[Graybeard]

136. He just called SS a cautious, conservative judge.

He did stipulate "small c".

[Graybeard]

134. Last panel, last witness, last question....uh oh ...

Whitehouse thinks it's almost over. Sessions and Kaufman say "Not so fast."

[Hepburn]

137. WHITEHOUSE FUCKING PWNED SESSIONS AND HIS ASSHOLE...

...2ND AMENDMENT SPECIALIST.

A thing of beauty to watch!!!!! :applause:

[cal04]

138. he always is

Bravo for Whitehouse
:woohoo:

[Hepburn]

139. Sessions, Sessions, Sessions...

...let me speak clearly:

THE SECOND AMENDMENT HAS NOT BEEN INCORPORATED.

What the hell do you NOT understand about that current status of the 2nd Amendment?

Unbelievable! :eyes:

[Graybeard]

140. End of a long day. Great threads. Thanks MiniMe.

And thank you c-span for no talking head comments.

[Hepburn]

141. Thanks to MM for doing the threads and thanks to all who came on to...

...discuss. I really enjoyed watching the hearing with you! :hi:

[cal04]

142. Thank you MiniMe and thank you everyone

who stayed
same here Hepburn
:hi:

[Hepburn]

143. It really was a good discussion ~~ all the long days of it!

I am hoping that Judge SS goes home to a wonderful relaxing dinner and puts her feet up and rests ~~ she deserves it!