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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 08:59 AM
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Strange twist in heavily armed man's arrest for sex crimes
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Posted: 6:44 PM Jul 15, 2009
Last Updated: 7:24 PM Jul 15, 2009
Reporter: Lynnsey Gardner
Email Address: lynnsey.gardner@wrdw.com


News 12 at 6 o'clock, July 15, 2009

AUGUSTA, Ga. --- Augusta's Belair Road has been in the news a lot lately, most recently last night at a home on the 3800 block. Investigators showed up there with a search warrant after a man was arrested on two sex crime charges.

News 12 brought you exclusive video on News 12 at 11 as investigators pulled 30 guns from the home, including fully automatics, semi automatics, rifles and handguns--not to mention tens of thousands of rounds of ammunition. snip

News 12 dug deeper and found a German term on his Myspace page, "Der Metzgermeister", used as his username. The phrase translates into a nickname meaning "Master Butcher", associated with a convicted German cannibal, Armin Meiwes.

A German song written about the killer, "Mein Teil" by Rammstein, plays on McGee's page. Also posted in German, is a saying the cannibal used to lure his victim on the internet, translated into, "Looking for a well built 18 to 30-year-old to be slaughtered...The Master Butcher."

The cannibal met his victim on the internet, which is where McGee is accused of contacting minors and distributing porn. McGee also posted one photo, a hand pointing a gun, and he list guns as a hobby.


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sharesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 09:53 AM
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1. Gun fancy and criminal intent must reside in the same part of the brain. n/t
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spin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 10:19 AM
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2. Strange, I know a bunch of gun nuts who never committed any crime..
If you're right there are at least 80 million very nasty people in our country.
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sharesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 11:21 AM
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3. Why do your acquaintences love guns so much?
If it was just for the popping noise, why wouldn't they stick to firecrackers?

If it was just for the aiming and targeting challenge, why wouldn't they stick to video games?

No. They are gun nuts precisely because of their delight in the damage, injury and death which guns and ammunition have the power to cause.

That's unwholesome.

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spin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 03:37 PM
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5. I use the term "gun nut" loosely...
a better term might be gun enthusiast. However "gun nut" would probably be the term you would use to describe my friends and indeed myself. I have no problem with the term, but some use it as a description for a fetish for firearms.

Let me address what you said:

If it was just for the popping noise, why wouldn't they stick to firecrackers?

If it was just for the aiming and targeting challenge, why wouldn't they stick to video games?


I would suspect that you have little experience with shooting from those statements. If you did, you would realize that the "popping noise" of shooting is what you hear on TV. The sound of real life gun fire is nothing to enjoy and can easily cause hearing damage unless proper hearing protection is used.

Video games and real shooting have little or nothing in common. Skill at one doesn't translate to skill at the other. You may be the top scoring player of a video game and find yourself unable to hit a target with a real firearm. You may be a champion shooter and suck as a video game player. Video games are fantasy as are TV and the movies.

I avoid first person shooter video games because I personally dislike the unnecessary, unrealistic violence and the fact that all too often these games teach a person to shoot first without properly identifying the target. It's possible that the games have improved over the years and there may be a few really realistic games on the market. If so, the games my grandchildren enjoy fall far short.

I should ask if you have actually known many people who were involved in the shooting sports. Somehow I feel you are stereotyping shooters as people who "delight in the damage, injury and death which guns and ammunition have the power to cause." You view them as "unwholesome".

I've known many regular shooters over the years. People who visit a range on a monthly or weekly basis would fall in the category of a regular shooter. These are people who generally own an extensive collection of firearms and enjoy shooting them.

These shooters come from a wide cross section of society. Many are college educated, doctors, nurses, lawyers, teachers, engineers, bankers and business owners come to mind. Many are middle class blue collar individuals such as factory workers, clerks, carpenters, plumbers and electricians.

Some were people who were in the lower classes and receiving disability. One had had a heart transplant years before and was unable to work. His wife had also developed cancer. He developed an interest in shooting as he feared that the violent individual that his daughter had broken up with would return to carry out his threats. Because of the medicine he was taking, he had a very bad tremor in his hands. Amazingly, he was able to hit the target with a good deal of accuracy at ranges up to 45 feet.

He found he loved the sport and the friendship of the shooters at the range. Shooting helped lift his attitude. It definitely made a positive difference in his life.

But I've never known a regular shooter who fantasized about shooting or killing anther individual. We had a very long table at the range where I used to shoot at, and we often would gather for conversation. Rarely did the conversation involve firearms. More often it involved politics, computers or golf (another popular sport with shooters). Sometimes a newbie shooter would sit at the end of the table with an experienced shooter to discuss the basics.

But from what you have stated, you would view such a gathering as a group of slobbering idiots talking about what their new .44 mag would do to a body if used. Infrequently the subject of terminal ballistics would come up at the table.

The general comment would run like this, "Shot placement is far more critical than power. Given that, a larger caliber bullet with sufficient velocity beats a smaller caliber round." A few more minutes of such fairly technical conversation and we all would return to discussing something more interesting... like football.

Perhaps your experience is limited to people who run out and buy a firearm and brag about it, just to be considered big and bad. I have to admit that I've known a few of these people through the years. I would invite them to go shooting with me. Some did and the experience changed their attitude. The others were terrors in their own mind and probably not brave enough to be a serious threat.

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sharesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 09:50 PM
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6. Thanks for that post. You make it sound like scouting.
I can see how it would grieve you to have a hobby you love fall into general disrepute.

I can see how the claim of Constitutional protection would be important to you as a means to preserve your hobby, when your think it is misunderstood by people who are killed, maimed, perpetually repairing damage, or running for cover.

What can I say? You love guns. I despise them, and am revolted by the thought of trying to learn to love them the way that you do.
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spin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 02:16 PM
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7. Interesting. I never thought to compare shooting to scouting...
but, yes, to a great degree they are similar.

One thing that you have to realize is that people who love the hobby of shooting are very opposed to crime and violence, especially crime that involves firearms. We want to see it brought under control perhaps as much or more than you do. Gun crime threatens our hobby.

The problem from our viewpoint is that gun control efforts seem to focus more on taking firearms from honest citizens rather than enforce existing laws or concentrate on punishing people found carrying firearms illegally. It's obvious that programs like the Assault Weapons Ban will do little to curb crime. We had an assault weapons ban in the past and it was allowed to expire because very very few people felt it had accomplished anything.

Politicians often find it easy to put some words on a paper and then stand around bloviating in front of the cameras about how great of a job they are doing. It's cheap and it gets positive media attention. They get to strut and preen like Emperor penguins. I also believe that they are smart enough to know that the legislation they pass will be worthless, but the important thing is not to solve the problem, but to gain votes for the next election.



Many firearm enthusiasts would like to see truly effective legislation signed into law. For example, I personally would like to see the NICS background system opened for use by private sellers.


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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 11:43 AM
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4. That's absurd. Guns are merely tools.
I have tools that I seldom use, but I still keep them oiled up and ready to go, just in case.

There are plenty of reasons to argue for gun control (or even prohibition). The one you just presented isn't a very good one. :wtf:
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aikoaiko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 02:30 PM
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8. If its true that the guy is a sexual predator then he needs to go to jail for a long time.

But the firearm collection is a none issue in that they are not reported to be involved in any crimes; not were they owned illegally.

Fear mongering.
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