What is about females in power that gets DU going so much?

[newtothegame]

Seriously, look at our record over the past year...

Brutal attacks against and rejection of Hilary Clinton for President
VISCIOUS rejection of Hilary Clinton for Vice-President
VISCIOUS attacks against female running mate on the other side (Palin)

Another thing I find interesting is that all the posts on the day McSame announced Palin as his running mate talked about what a horrible choice he made, and how it destroyed his candidacy (true). Yet we spent the next few months obsessing over Palin. More articles on Palin. More articles on her family. If she was such a minor threat, why the obsession?

And now when the rest of the world has moved on from Palin for the most part, the only two entities that can't seem to get over Palin are FoxNews and DU. I'm getting a little disturbed at our reaction to female power on here.

[Buzz Clik]

1. Damned straight! Obama has never been criticized, and Michelle is constantly being trashed.

And what about that woman, George W. Bush? She was mercily hammered at DU for 8 solid years, as was his washerwoman, Dick Cheney.

:mad:

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

2. It has nothing to do with "female". In Palin's case - an idiot. In Hillary's a neo-lib "moderate".

[Echo In Light]

33. In Cynthia McKinney's case, a "Conspiracy Theorist." People love to hate her.

Although I haven't anything against her at all as I tend to find that, sometimes, not always, but sometimes, many times, even, when one has that particular tag associated w/them it often means they've given credence to what is unspeakable truth in many circles for a host of obvious reasons.

[flvegan]

3. Oh brother.

Yeah, it's cuz they're women. That's it. :eyes:

[musette_sf]

4. .

:popcorn:

[gratuitous]

5. We're kind of "viscious" to everyone

Read any criticisms here about Harry Reid, Barack Obama, Newt Gingrich, or John Boehner, just to name a few? DU seems to be equal-opportunity vicious. And anyone in the public arena is pretty much fair game, whether it's blundering politicians, nitwit entertainers, or supine journalists.

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

17. +1 there.

We hate everyone except Wellstone (who wasn't as progressive as people think) and Kucinich (who doesn't actually get a damn thing done).

[hfojvt]

59. especially to people on the right

even the rightwing of the Democratic Party.

Did I say even, I meant especially.

[SemiCharmedQuark]

6. ROFLOL...yeah, ok. Yahoo News Top Headline: "Sarah Palin Breaks Silence on Resignation"

Why does Yahoo hate women!

[Mari333]

7. FAIL

I criticize everyone, female and male. puhlease.

[BobRossi]

8. Holy shit.

You named two women, how many men get criticized?

Incompetence is what gets criticized, sex has nothing to do with it.

Lighten up Alice.

[walldude]

9. Uh why don't you ad Michelle Bachmann to that list. We beat her up all the time.

Hillary was nasty as hell during the primary and deserved the lashing she received. Palin is a lunatic, nuts, off her rocker, a few cards short of a deck. So is Bachmann. You may have a few misogynists here but in general the attacks on certain women are well deserved.

[MadMaddie]

49. We beat up on Pelosi pretty good too.

Well deserved though!

[Mrs. Overall]

54. Feinstein gets beat up, too, and again, it's well deserved.

[meegbear]

10. Palin wasn't qualified and proved it time and time again ...

since the Obama supporters infested this site in '08, any candidate who wasn't Obama was constantly trashed. Hillary was bitchslapped nonstop unfairly.

[mitchum]

11. You're right; we have given bush, Cheney, etc...such a pass merely because they have cocks

To hell with Palin The Grifter...and her defenders

[Arkana]

12. Go away.

Christ, you honestly think all criticism of Hillary and Palin were because they were WOMEN?

[kenny blankenship]

13. politics is a rough game. if you can't take the hits better to stay out.

[Gidney N Cloyd]

14. No one would obsess over Palin if she'd just STFU AND GO AWAY

[TheCowsCameHome]

15. Maybe because the ones like Palin just won't go away.

She, and others like her, don't know when to shut up.

The same for males, too.

[DrDan]

16. there was also a LOT of support for HRC on this site

pretty divided - but a lot of support.

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

29. Agreed.

Prior to Obama mathematically/functionally securing the nomination, HRC received no more bile than any other legitimate primary candidate, including Obama. After that point, however, much of DU coalesced against her, but that had nothing to do with her gender and everything to do with her trying to tear down our presumed nominee for the sake of whatever personal gain she thought she could muster.

[rosesaylavee]

41. And still is ... now that she is SOS. n/t

[Bicoastal]

18. I agree! Other than her gender, Sarah Palin is entirely undeserving of mockery!!

:sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm:

[SemiCharmedQuark]

19. Please name a politician (male or female) other than Feingold, Sanders and Kucinich who isn't

attacked viciously on DU?

[Bicoastal]

22. Mayor McCheese!

One of the finest politicians around today.

[SemiCharmedQuark]

24. Bullshit! He's in the pocket of Big Bun!

[Javaman]

51. And the hamburgerler does all his dirty work. nt

[SemiCharmedQuark]

60. The hamburgerler is the Rahm Emanuel of Mayor McCheese's Administration!

[Gidney N Cloyd]

28. Boxer. I'd scratch Kucinich, though. He gets ridiculed a lot.

[SemiCharmedQuark]

31. Do a search for Boxer...even she gets trashed here.

I think, of the three I listed, Sanders gets trashed the least, followed by Feingold then Boxer then Kucinich. Still, even these four get trashed.

[Sebastian Doyle]

40. But.. but.. but.. isn't Senator Boxer a WOMAN?

I mean, you wouldn't want to render the O.P.(U.M.A.) argument null and void, would you? :evilgrin:

[Gidney N Cloyd]

53. You betcha.

[tularetom]

20. Where have you been hiding for the past 8 months?

Palin has been on every possible show you can imagine. She has drug her trashy family problems out in front of us until we were sick of seeing and hearing her. The pregnant daughter, the kicking out the baby daddy, the on again off again speeches, the David Letterman incident the non quitting quitting, and on and on.

I don't think the attacks on Hillary Clinton here were vicious. Some of the attacks on BILL Clinton probably went over the line but you could make a case that he brought it on himself.

The rest of the world has not moved on from Palin. She won;t let them. She managed to appear on CNN today in fishing waders and tell us again how quitting is not something a quitter might do.

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

21. Palin was a moron - her rejection was more than justified.

HRC was not the any more the subject of brutal attacks as other primary candidates until she went well past the point where she could actually win the nomination. At that point, people rejected how she was doing business, and that bled into their opinions of her being a VP nominee.

DU has largely been supportive of HRC as Secretary of State and HRC as a Senator. Not to mention that we've been largely supportive of Sotomayor for SCOTUS. As such, your hypothesis is nothing more than vapid BS.

[seabeyond]

23. because she was so god damn stupid. all eyes fixed on her. huge ass two steps back

for feminism. she used her sexuality to get what she wanted. not her brain. the most offensiveness

i gotta side with the palin obsession.

as far as the other with women in power thing here on du. i dont think it is that many. generally it is the same males that are retarded with women in other areas too. for the most part, i dont see the general poster on du having issue with women as a whole. only a core group

[beltanefauve]

25. Flame bait

Pure and simple.

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

46. No replies from the original poster? I am shocked, SHOCKED!

[Javaman]

52. got to love the hit and run posters.

I am of the full belief that they are trolls that skirt the line just to stir the pot.

[Mrs. Overall]

57. I see "Newt" in the OP's name...

[anonymous171]

26. So, mocking Palin because she resigned = fear of females in power?

:crazy:

[KamaAina]

27. I'm not sure Bible Spice is the best example of females in power

:dunce:

And although I supported Obama in the primaries, I deplored the Hillary-bashing and definitely thought she deserved serious consideration as VP.

[JerseygirlCT]

30. Not about their gender. And with two whole examples, I don't think

you give much credence to your claim.

It is actually possible to dislike a female politician for reasons other than her gender.

[bluestateguy]

32. I need an aspirin

nt

[Ikonoklast]

34. Only the stupid, power hungry ones that use their gender for political gain.

And I'm not disturbed at 'our' reaction to anything. Like this forum is a monolith of opinion with absolutely no dissent on any subject.

But 'your' reaction is telling.

[Arugula Latte]

35. Oooh, poor widdle Hiwwary and Sawah!

Hillary was ENTITLED to the nomination -- why didn't we just HAND it too her in spite of her crappy, offensive campaign?

Oh, and that poor, poor dear Sarah Palin. Gosh, the attacks against her were so VICIOUS! People over-reacted to her KKK Campaign Rallies and all the far right shit she spewed! How dare they?!

Seriously, as a woman I find posts like yours so offensive. Implying that if someone is female and seeking higher office they should be entitled to act and speak without criticism is so patently condescending!

[CJCRANE]

Locking.

Moving to the Broad Brush forum.

[Gidney N Cloyd]

56. There! See?

DU doesn't even have a 'Guy Brush' forum!

[Warpy]

36. She might have been a minor threat to us, but she was a major

symptom of a major problem in that other party. Her function in whipping up hate at her rallies needed to be addressed, as well as her ignorance and provinciality and total unsuitableness to high national office.

I didn't see people attacking her looks or taste in clothing (although her overpriced makeover on campaign donor dollars was a big issue, as it should have been) or age, all of which are signs of sexists attacks. If one was wise enough to hide GD:P, one saw amazingly little of that.

I'm terribly sorry if many posts pointing out a female candidate's obvious, serious flaws and what those flaws meant for the men who chose her upset some people who see attacks against any woman for any reason being equal in tone.

Your concern is duly noted, in other words.

[Mojorabbit]

37. It is the particular females

I don't think I have ever read a bad thing about Barbara Boxer. Nothing to do with female power.

[SemiCharmedQuark]

39. I think it is the particular medium.

The internet lends itself to hyperbolic attacks and viciousness. Even our favorite politicians are attacked on DU.

[WI_DEM]

38. And Obama was never attacked on DU even during the primaries?

[blm]

42. NO RoyalistBush in WH. NO DINO Clinton in WH. NO wingnut Palin. No FASCIST enablers, women or men.

Um....what historic records do YOU read that make you believe rejecting fascism is rejecting women?

[CJCRANE]

43. What if McCain had chosen Lieberman as his running mate?

Would DUers have been all sweetness and light towards him because he's a man?

[peacetalksforall]

44. It's not their gender. Sometimes they are the ones who are persistent

in staying in front of the camera. Sometimes it's good for us. Sometimes it's over the top.

Sometimes it's ridiculous and they keep on giving. Men, also.

Sometimes it's because the cause is worthwhile. Men, also.

Generally, between genders, I feel women often have more public ethics and more guts to work towards what is good for the people. Men seem to need and depend on male support and they don't cross the line in the bar room of acceptability. They are very dependent on the pat on the back from other males.

What can you say about Sarah, Michelle Bachmann, Kathryn Harris, Ann Coulter. They thrive on attention, even when it becomes a joke to many. Same for Rush, O'Reilly, Sanford, Craig types.

I don't think you can compare Palin to H. Clinton. Palin makes everything so personal while asking for more attention. H. Clinton takes political stands that some don't like.

[katanalori]

45. I admire

Debbie Wasserman-Shultz. Love Rachael Maddow. Give me some time, and I will name MANY women in politics and media that I admire. Guess I should change my mind about them, because they are WOMEN, eh? Palin deserves all of the criticism and scorn we can give. She is incompetent, unethical and a liar.

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

47. Because we are so afraid of Palin. Is that the answer you were looking for, LOL?

;)

You're not very good at this, are you?

Also, if you are going to start "provocative" threads like this, you'd win a few more respect points if you'd make even one single reply to the posts on your own thread.

[MrSlayer]

48. C'mon, Palin is a dunce. She's earned every bit of scorn.

I'm equal opportunity. I slammed the Chimp and Cheney and most of the Neo-cons as much as I've ever slammed anyone. Had nothing to do with their genitalia. You never hear people slamming Boxer or any other legitimate progressive female around here. It's always about the politics, rarely about the gender.

[get the red out]

50. She represents all that I despise

I am always glad to see Palin trashed. She represents all that I despise in the world, the most anti-female political goals in existence this side of the Taliban. She is the female trojan horse, some woman all these men want to get their hands on whose real goal is to destroy women's power in all aspects of their lives. She represents someone who believes in witchcraft, her religion promotes witch hunters in Africa. Who are the frequent recipients of attacks and accusations of witchcraft? Women! Her church is bat-shit crazy and so is she, but we are supposed to respect that.

I am more concerned with the powerless women that Palin seeks to destroy like women in need of reproductive health care, girls who need sex education to protect themselves and not end up like Bristol Palin, women who had been raped then asked to pay for the rape kit; than I am women "in power". Maybe having a "woman in power" matters more than women's rights to some, but not to me. In fact, that's what the Republicans were betting on when they put Palin on the ticket, that women would sell their souls and their basic rights in order just to see a woman in power. Palin represents the ignorance that republicans attribute to women in general in this country.

There is also the fact that she did nothing but shake her ass to get anywhere. She is the beauty queen that was worshipped in high school who other girls (the ones who actually studied now and then) would have loved to have smacked across the face.

This woman doesn't deserve respect, bash away!

[ecstatic]

55. Epic fail. Don't tie Clinton in with Palin. Two different topics nt

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

58. Yeah.. seemed like someone else tried such a tie in about a year ago, epic fail also...

Oh yeah, it was Sarah Palin who did that. ;)