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crikkett (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-07-07 04:31 PM Original message |
ATTENTION COLLEGE STUDENTS - You can end RIAA harassment |
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ThatsMyBarack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-07-07 04:37 PM Response to Original message |
1. K&R! |
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Initech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-07-07 04:37 PM Response to Original message |
2. Easier said than done. |
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Ignacio Upton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-07-07 04:47 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. If a boycott works, then they will just blame p2p downloading |
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crikkett (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-07-07 05:38 PM Response to Reply #5 |
11. The boycott will work when demands are met! |
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crikkett (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-07-07 05:34 PM Response to Reply #2 |
9. So get off your butts and get to work! |
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orleans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-07-07 11:25 PM Response to Reply #9 |
72. what's the riaa? n/t |
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crikkett (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-08-07 10:57 AM Response to Reply #72 |
89. Recording Industry Assn. of America |
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crikkett (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-07-07 05:36 PM Response to Reply #2 |
10. "It's going to take a lot to bring those a** down" |
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Initech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-07-07 06:15 PM Response to Reply #10 |
17. Ding ding ding! We have a winner! |
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crikkett (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-07-07 06:30 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. so are you saying that you wouldn't participate or are you saying that you |
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Initech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-07-07 06:46 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. No, I would never work for the RIAA. I hate them. |
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Edweird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-07-07 05:53 PM Response to Reply #2 |
15. I believe it's easier than you think. |
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crikkett (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-07-07 06:29 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. but in the meantime, more college students (maybe you!) are getting snagged at $1000s /ea. |
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Edweird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-07-07 06:47 PM Response to Reply #19 |
24. well, I pay for my mp3's. |
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Ignacio Upton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-07-07 06:53 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. Do you use Allofmp3.com? |
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Edweird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-07-07 06:58 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. I heard about that lawsuit. I have used them, but not recently. |
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Ignacio Upton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-07-07 07:01 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. There are only so many places where copyright law can reach on Earth |
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Edweird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-07-07 07:06 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. And on that note, I would bet the farm that Putin couldn't |
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Ignacio Upton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-07-07 07:10 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. I doubt many countries care what American intellectual property owners think |
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Edweird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-07-07 07:24 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. You are absolutely correct. Monsanto and ADM and their ilk are bad. |
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Ignacio Upton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-07-07 07:30 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. I doubt Order 81 is actively being enforced |
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Ignacio Upton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-07-07 04:39 PM Response to Original message |
3. Speaking of the RIAA... |
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Ignacio Upton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-07-07 04:43 PM Response to Original message |
4. You can always buy used CD's |
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Dont_Bogart_the_Pretzel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-07-07 05:01 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. you can get TONS of music on this. |
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Ignacio Upton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-07-07 06:43 PM Response to Reply #6 |
22. A 16GB one is still pretty expensive |
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msongs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-07-07 05:09 PM Response to Original message |
7. yeah, make your own music instead of ripping off somebody else :-) |
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Edweird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-07-07 05:44 PM Response to Reply #7 |
13. Yeah, cos' them mp3 swappers are cutting into your profits, right? |
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Unvanguard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-07-07 07:58 PM Response to Reply #13 |
41. Someone has to distribute it. |
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Edweird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-08-07 09:11 AM Response to Reply #41 |
85. well, yes, someone does need to distribute it. However, you're missing the point. |
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Heywood J (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-08-07 12:12 PM Response to Reply #7 |
90. If I like your music, I'll buy it directly from you |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-08-07 05:23 PM Response to Reply #7 |
106. False analogy. |
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sendero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-09-07 05:39 PM Response to Reply #7 |
164. Anybody CAN make their own music.. |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-07-07 05:19 PM Response to Original message |
8. heh, I thought you were going to say "stop downloading music illegally... |
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philosophie_en_rose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-07-07 05:42 PM Response to Original message |
12. The RIAA is a wounded animal. It will bite you, if you mess with it. |
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Edweird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-07-07 05:45 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. It's a hail mary. Give it time. They are dying. |
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bbernardini (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-07-07 05:57 PM Response to Reply #12 |
16. They should try to recoup their losses by putting out a product worth buying. nt |
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crikkett (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-07-07 06:33 PM Response to Reply #16 |
21. that alone is why I thought a boycott would be easy. |
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Ignacio Upton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-07-07 06:56 PM Response to Reply #16 |
27. Not charing $15-$20 for CD's would also do good |
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LifeDuringWartime (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-07-07 10:42 PM Response to Reply #16 |
64. there's plenty worth buying |
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Ignacio Upton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-07-07 10:45 PM Response to Reply #64 |
66. Maybe if CD's didn't cost the same as DVD's |
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whoneedstickets (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-08-07 12:52 AM Response to Reply #12 |
75. It is harassment when... |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-08-07 03:58 AM Response to Reply #12 |
82. The Federal Trade Commission busted their fucking asses in the 1990s for price fixing. |
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gravity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-07-07 06:20 PM Response to Original message |
18. This is what college students are already doing |
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Ignacio Upton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-07-07 06:48 PM Response to Reply #18 |
25. And the percentage of young people who download is a majority |
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gravity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-07-07 07:21 PM Response to Reply #25 |
34. The problem is that students are going to get the music for free |
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Ignacio Upton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-07-07 07:28 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. You need a legit system that takes away that incentive |
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crikkett (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-07-07 08:29 PM Response to Reply #36 |
46. universities have tried to buy licenses for their student bodies before |
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gravity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-08-07 02:14 AM Response to Reply #36 |
79. $1.29 for a song is cheap |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-08-07 04:02 AM Response to Reply #79 |
83. That's because they were price fixing in the 1990s, that's why it was so damn expensive. |
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Little Wing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-07-07 07:07 PM Response to Original message |
31. what would those demands be? |
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Ignacio Upton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-07-07 07:12 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. See post #5 |
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Unvanguard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-07-07 07:34 PM Response to Original message |
38. In a society where filesharing is widespread |
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Ignacio Upton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-07-07 07:39 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. You dirty commie! |
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Unvanguard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-07-07 07:44 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. The problem I see with that proposal |
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Ignacio Upton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-07-07 08:05 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. Solution: |
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Unvanguard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-07-07 08:10 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. But not all filesharing is illegal, even now. |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-08-07 11:44 PM Response to Reply #44 |
120. Okay, there's a REAL misunderstanding of what we're talking about here. |
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Unvanguard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-09-07 12:47 AM Response to Reply #120 |
143. I don't think you're talking about what we were talking about at all |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-09-07 12:59 AM Response to Reply #143 |
145. You're talking about illegal copying. |
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Unvanguard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-09-07 01:02 AM Response to Reply #145 |
146. No. I'm talking about a very specific solution to illegal copying. |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-09-07 01:07 AM Response to Reply #146 |
148. I don't think there IS a solution. |
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Unvanguard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-09-07 01:15 AM Response to Reply #148 |
150. Okay, fair enough. |
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crikkett (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-07-07 09:05 PM Response to Reply #42 |
51. I'm totally with you. |
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Edweird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-07-07 08:07 PM Response to Reply #39 |
43. When you pay $16 for a CD, how much do you think goes to royalties? |
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Ignacio Upton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-07-07 10:07 PM Response to Reply #43 |
53. True, but this system will lay the groundwork for getting rid of record labels |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-08-07 11:29 PM Response to Reply #39 |
115. Isn't there already a surcharge on blank media? |
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Ignacio Upton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-08-07 11:33 PM Response to Reply #115 |
118. Canada does this |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-08-07 11:53 PM Response to Reply #118 |
128. Ah, it was Canada. |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-07-07 08:22 PM Response to Original message |
45. Or Maybe They Just Shouldn't Download Illegally? |
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crikkett (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-07-07 08:31 PM Response to Reply #45 |
47. that's working REALLY WELL - like a tax on tea |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-07-07 08:43 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. The RIAA Has A Right To Go After Them Is All. To Believe Otherwise Would Be Amazingly Silly. |
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crikkett (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-07-07 09:03 PM Response to Reply #48 |
50. The Birmingham Police had a right to go after Black protesters didn't they? |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-07-07 09:13 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. ROFLMAO!!!!! You Can't POSSIBLY Believe That's Relevant To This Debate Somehow Can You? ROFLMAO!! |
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crikkett (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-08-07 01:27 AM Response to Reply #52 |
76. Okay fine. |
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Kelly Rupert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-08-07 11:39 PM Response to Reply #76 |
119. The RIAA has a legal right to sue those who are violating its copyright. |
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Ignacio Upton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-08-07 11:59 PM Response to Reply #119 |
130. And that legal right was written by THEM |
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Kelly Rupert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-09-07 12:03 AM Response to Reply #130 |
132. Doesn't matter. It's still their right. |
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Ignacio Upton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-09-07 12:08 AM Response to Reply #132 |
135. Sadly, they have the law on their side |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-09-07 12:27 AM Response to Reply #132 |
140. I think we need to take a serious look at just how important copyright can be |
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crikkett (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-09-07 02:15 PM Response to Reply #119 |
161. Just as we have the right to negotiate the terms of said copyright. |
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Kelly Rupert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-09-07 05:46 PM Response to Reply #161 |
165. No, we do not. |
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crikkett (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-11-07 11:41 AM Response to Reply #165 |
187. Yes, we do. Copyright is a privelege. |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-11-07 06:26 PM Response to Reply #187 |
189. I'd guess that 99% of the stuff |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-09-07 09:23 AM Response to Reply #50 |
157. I'd pipe down the hyperbole if I was you. |
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NJCher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-08-07 03:29 AM Response to Reply #45 |
80. there you go! |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-07-07 08:48 PM Response to Original message |
49. Hear! Hear! |
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JeffR (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-08-07 09:28 AM Response to Reply #49 |
86. You should check out this site, which has a free service & a paid one: |
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Blue-Jay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-07-07 10:08 PM Response to Original message |
54. OR! You can stop stealing music. |
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Ignacio Upton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-07-07 10:13 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. ... |
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Ignacio Upton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-07-07 10:17 PM Response to Reply #54 |
56. How about this: |
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Blue-Jay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-07-07 10:26 PM Response to Reply #56 |
59. That really doesn't make any sense. |
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Ignacio Upton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-07-07 10:32 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. It applies the logic to making copies of songs |
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Blue-Jay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-07-07 10:36 PM Response to Reply #61 |
62. Explain to me how you go about making |
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Ignacio Upton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-07-07 10:44 PM Response to Reply #62 |
65. I'm applying the same process to tomatoes are you would with buying |
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Blue-Jay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-07-07 10:46 PM Response to Reply #65 |
67. So...You're saying that if it's out there for free, |
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Ignacio Upton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-07-07 10:50 PM Response to Reply #67 |
68. If it's not part of the for-sale inventory, then yes |
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Blue-Jay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-07-07 11:00 PM Response to Reply #68 |
69. OK then. Make an "atomic copy" (WTF?) of a tomato. |
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Ignacio Upton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-07-07 11:08 PM Response to Reply #69 |
71. What about recording a song of their's off of your radio? |
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crikkett (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-08-07 10:51 AM Response to Reply #62 |
87. but who's got the right to tell me that I can't give away my tomatoes? |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-08-07 12:46 PM Response to Reply #87 |
93. Of course you can give away music |
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crikkett (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-08-07 02:49 PM Response to Reply #93 |
97. no I want to move a song from one itunes to another. |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-08-07 03:39 PM Response to Reply #97 |
99. YOU said the RIAA |
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crikkett (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-08-07 03:56 PM Response to Reply #99 |
101. it's too easy to go around in circles on this. |
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NJCher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-08-07 03:41 AM Response to Reply #56 |
81. this Tom the Dancing Bug cartoon |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-08-07 12:28 PM Response to Reply #56 |
91. How about you borrow a book from the library? |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-09-07 12:09 AM Response to Reply #91 |
136. Oh for fuck's sake. What if I have a photographic memory, |
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Celeborn Skywalker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-08-07 12:21 AM Response to Reply #54 |
74. No thanks. |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-07-07 10:21 PM Response to Original message |
57. Yeah, stop stealing music, an itune is only 99 cents |
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Ignacio Upton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-07-07 10:25 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. 99 cents per song is still pretty high |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-07-07 10:31 PM Response to Reply #58 |
60. no it isn't |
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Ignacio Upton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-07-07 10:41 PM Response to Reply #60 |
63. It's a song that anyone can make a copy of from their computer an give to a friend |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-07-07 11:03 PM Response to Reply #63 |
70. itunes drm is a joke |
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Ignacio Upton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-08-07 12:17 AM Response to Reply #70 |
73. I've tried doing that and it hasn't worked for me |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-08-07 06:24 AM Response to Reply #73 |
84. Me too |
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gravity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-08-07 02:09 AM Response to Reply #58 |
78. 99 cents is high compared to free |
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Ignacio Upton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-08-07 10:53 AM Response to Reply #78 |
88. The inflation argument doesn't apply to enterntainment |
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gravity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-08-07 11:01 PM Response to Reply #88 |
109. Intellectual property is not technology |
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NJCher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-09-07 06:08 PM Response to Reply #109 |
168. yoo hoo |
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ToeBot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-08-07 01:56 AM Response to Original message |
77. The only thing keeping the Music Industry alive is the power... |
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Richardo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-08-07 12:45 PM Response to Original message |
92. How 'bout paying the friggin' $0.99? |
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Ignacio Upton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-08-07 01:37 PM Response to Reply #92 |
94. So you support treating 60 million people like criminals? |
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Richardo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-08-07 11:11 PM Response to Reply #94 |
111. If they're breaking the law, they ARE criminals. |
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Ignacio Upton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-08-07 11:28 PM Response to Reply #111 |
114. Realistically, would you support suing 20% of the population? |
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Richardo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-09-07 03:39 AM Response to Reply #114 |
154. Lawsuits are civil actions, not criminal actions. |
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NJCher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-09-07 06:28 PM Response to Reply #111 |
169. I'm so glad you're such a big supporter of the law |
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Richardo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-10-07 05:13 PM Response to Reply #169 |
186. I see you have the 'Stupid Laws in All 50 States' book |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-08-07 01:38 PM Response to Reply #92 |
96. Exactly. |
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NJCher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-09-07 06:42 PM Response to Reply #96 |
173. that's exactly the problem |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-09-07 07:10 PM Response to Reply #173 |
176. Yeah it is, actually. |
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NJCher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-09-07 09:43 PM Response to Reply #176 |
180. sigh |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-09-07 09:47 PM Response to Reply #180 |
181. Guess so. Want a chockie? eom |
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AlCzervik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-08-07 03:03 PM Response to Reply #92 |
98. when i was in college there were a lot of things i did without and it didn't |
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Richardo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-08-07 11:10 PM Response to Reply #98 |
110. You're aces, crs |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-09-07 03:27 AM Response to Reply #98 |
153. I dunno, said rule doesn't apply to beer in my experience |
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Ignacio Upton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-08-07 01:38 PM Response to Original message |
95. I'm surprised that there are so many RIAA apologists on here |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-08-07 03:47 PM Response to Reply #95 |
100. Maybe it's because you're wrong. |
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Kelly Rupert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-08-07 11:49 PM Response to Reply #95 |
123. You know, it might be because |
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BushOut06 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-08-07 04:20 PM Response to Original message |
102. Who gives a flying fuck about the artists? |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-08-07 10:55 PM Response to Reply #102 |
108. I used to use Bearshare. |
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Ignacio Upton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-08-07 11:26 PM Response to Reply #108 |
113. That's a false analogy |
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Kelly Rupert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-08-07 11:50 PM Response to Reply #113 |
124. And that's a false analogy also. |
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Ignacio Upton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-08-07 11:52 PM Response to Reply #124 |
127. Music being sold is as much of a commodity |
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Kelly Rupert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-08-07 11:56 PM Response to Reply #127 |
129. And were you to steal the commodity |
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BushOut06 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-09-07 05:46 AM Response to Reply #113 |
155. Suppose you wrote a book - would it be okay for me to make copies and give them away for free? |
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Nicole (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-08-07 04:24 PM Response to Original message |
103. How can you boycott something if you aren't buying it anyway? |
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Beaverhausen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-08-07 05:06 PM Response to Original message |
104. I am so fucking sick of this- it is stealing - plain and simple |
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Ignacio Upton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-08-07 05:10 PM Response to Reply #104 |
105. Many of those positions will be obsolete in another 10-20 years |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-08-07 10:52 PM Response to Reply #105 |
107. You just make no sense at all. |
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Ignacio Upton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-08-07 11:24 PM Response to Reply #107 |
112. I defend the use of p2p from a moral stance |
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BushOut06 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-09-07 05:50 AM Response to Reply #112 |
156. It is STEALING - plain and fucking simple! |
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Ignacio Upton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-09-07 11:18 AM Response to Reply #156 |
159. I defend file sharing from a moral standpoint, not legal |
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Kelly Rupert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-08-07 11:45 PM Response to Reply #105 |
121. So use emusic.com |
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Ignacio Upton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-08-07 11:51 PM Response to Reply #121 |
125. I haven't stopped giving money to artists because of file sharing |
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kid a (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-08-07 11:32 PM Response to Original message |
116. stop stealing the music...GO RIAA |
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Ignacio Upton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-08-07 11:46 PM Response to Reply #116 |
122. Copyright luddites are losing |
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Kelly Rupert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-08-07 11:51 PM Response to Reply #122 |
126. And what would you define 'copyright' as, |
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Ignacio Upton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-09-07 12:01 AM Response to Reply #126 |
131. They do have the right to get compensated |
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gravity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-09-07 12:03 AM Response to Reply #131 |
133. They have the right to decide the compensation |
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Ignacio Upton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-09-07 12:05 AM Response to Reply #133 |
134. What about piano player rolls, broadcast radio and cable TV? |
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Kelly Rupert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-09-07 12:10 AM Response to Reply #131 |
137. You realize that your "plan" already exists. |
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Ignacio Upton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-09-07 12:14 AM Response to Reply #137 |
138. There wouldn't be much of a free rider problem |
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Kelly Rupert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-09-07 12:24 AM Response to Reply #138 |
139. So what if you use a different client? |
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Ignacio Upton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-09-07 12:31 AM Response to Reply #139 |
141. It would be a voluntary premium service |
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Kelly Rupert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-09-07 12:42 AM Response to Reply #141 |
142. We have voluntary premium services already. |
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Ignacio Upton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-09-07 12:50 AM Response to Reply #142 |
144. The plan I'm talking about is not quite analogous |
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Kelly Rupert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-09-07 05:34 PM Response to Reply #144 |
163. The only "difference" you have |
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Ignacio Upton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-09-07 06:39 PM Response to Reply #163 |
172. DRM is a HUGE reason for why people aren't flocking to non-itunes legit services |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-09-07 01:05 AM Response to Reply #142 |
147. It needs to be a client that HAS pay content but doesn't FORCE pay content |
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Ignacio Upton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-09-07 01:13 AM Response to Reply #147 |
149. Bittorent could be useful for the RIAA |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-09-07 03:10 AM Response to Reply #141 |
151. And should the same be true of software? |
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Ignacio Upton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-09-07 11:09 AM Response to Reply #151 |
158. It doesn't "excuse theft" |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-09-07 12:49 PM Response to Reply #158 |
160. I'm not sure how much |
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NJCher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-09-07 07:01 PM Response to Reply #151 |
175. attribution theory |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-09-07 08:24 PM Response to Reply #175 |
178. I'm not sure |
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NJCher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-09-07 09:41 PM Response to Reply #178 |
179. just because computers are involved |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-09-07 09:57 PM Response to Reply #179 |
182. well I'm sure it's a fascinating subject |
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NJCher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-10-07 08:05 AM Response to Reply #182 |
183. why it's a big issue |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-10-07 10:35 AM Response to Reply #183 |
184. Other than underhanded insults |
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NJCher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-10-07 03:41 PM Response to Reply #184 |
185. Where |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-11-07 11:51 AM Response to Reply #185 |
188. Again |
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Kelly Rupert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-08-07 11:33 PM Response to Original message |
117. Yeah, lemme know how that one works. |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-09-07 03:23 AM Response to Original message |
152. I say that we pass a law capping RIAA lawsuits at $1 per song downloaded |
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Kelly Rupert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-09-07 05:28 PM Response to Reply #152 |
162. Intellectual property is not a "privilege," as you say. |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-09-07 05:47 PM Response to Reply #162 |
166. No, it's not, there is nothing in the constitution guaranteeing you intellectual property |
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Kelly Rupert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-09-07 05:48 PM Response to Reply #166 |
167. It seems you have a very sketchy definition of "entitlement" |
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Ignacio Upton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-09-07 06:31 PM Response to Reply #167 |
170. IP laws can be changed at any time by Congress |
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Kelly Rupert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-09-07 06:37 PM Response to Reply #170 |
171. That's not at all relevant. |
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Ignacio Upton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-09-07 06:50 PM Response to Reply #171 |
174. Well that amendment would require 3/4ths of the states supporting that |
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Kelly Rupert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-09-07 07:14 PM Response to Reply #174 |
177. And, again. |
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